PTO Winch Information

[Cruisin61]

If you are disassembling the rollers for the fairlead you will need to use a torch and a shop press.
The long rollers have bushings on either end that are about 50mm long. You will not need to heat the entire roller, just each end. I used a 19mm impact socket to support the fairlead frame while I got the exposed end of the bolt pressed down into the roller. After that, a length of thick walled steel pipe for support. Use a steel bar to press once the bolt is inside the roller. It helps to add some lubricant into the roller once you get some space in there, its acts as a reservoir throughout the job.
After disassembly I noticed the the vertical bolts for the rollers came with at least 2 different thread pitches. Interesting, there would have to be 2 different part numbers to confirm this and could possibly help date a winch head.

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Anyone know where to get the bushings for the fairlead rollers? Mine still roll but are very loose/rough feeling and i assume thats the issue. I'll be taking it apart in the next week or so.

 

[youngmanchego]

Anyone know where to get the bushings for the fairlead rollers? Mine still roll but are very loose/rough feeling and i assume thats the issue. I'll be taking it apart in the next week or so.

I’m getting my rollers re-milled by a local shop to fit a standard McMaster Carr bronze bushing. To be honest if you’re going to replace them it might be worth going that route as well. I’m assuming you’ll be using a press to remove them? They fused on mine so we’re going straight to mill(er) time.

I haven’t looked for the originals. If the standard sites like SOR or CruiserOutfitters are neg, you could try Toyota Parts Deal. It is a crap shoot but I’ve been pleasantly surprised.

From what I’ve read the recomendation seems to be replacing them with bronze bushings for easy replacement and low wear on the bolts.

 

[Cruisin61]

Thanks for the info, i check SOR and Toyota Parts Deal and looks like they are not available. I think I'll go that the same route as you. I just went out and checked the bottom roller and its stuck, i guess i only checked the top and sides before, so i'll be using a press to remove it. Do you have local shop you recommend in the Portland area? I'm in Oregon city.

 

[Cruisin61]

Well, I was able to remove them in the driveway....luckily. I definitely found why the side rollers have so much movement. Can any tell me if looks looks factory? Based on how easy it was to remove the rollers I think someone has had them taken apart before.

The top and bottom roller fit perfect over the roller bolt leaving no space for a bushing. The sides have a "bushing/spacer" that is way to small but runs the entire length of the roller.

It's on an 1988 HJ61

 

[cruiserdan]

 

[Cruisin61]

Thank you Cruiserdan, So if im looking at that correctly it looks like only the horizontal need a bushing and the vertical only have the spacer.

 

[youngmanchego]

Thanks for the info, i check SOR and Toyota Parts Deal and looks like they are not available. I think I'll go that the same route as you. I just went out and checked the bottom roller and its stuck, i guess i only checked the top and sides before, so i'll be using a press to remove it. Do you have local shop you recommend in the Portland area? I'm in Oregon city.

P and J Machine on 22nd are the folks I’ve been talking with. Great father-son duo and fair prices.

 

[jblueridge]

I had a machine shop make replacements for the nylon bushings.
I bought some delrin and they turned and bored it to fit.

 

[youngmanchego]

I had a machine shop make replacements for the nylon bushings.
I bought some delrin and they turned and bored it to fit.

I didn’t know there were supposed to be nylon bushings. Are they part of the roller assembly?

 

[jblueridge]

Sorry. I have a BJ74. I see now it has a different fairlead.

 

[youngmanchego]

Sorry. I have a BJ74. I see now it has a different fairlead.
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Ah no worries. Good to know the differences out there. Is the winch unit itself the same? I’ve seen “new” units available on Toyota parts deal so I wondered if Toyota either still made them or if with the newer 70 series units, there are lots of new stock