Pro Comp ES9000 Shock Information and Specs (2 Viewers)

[Ebag333]

I've been looking for longer shocks, and unfortunately my budget can't handle OME L's at the moment. So in digging around (especially on the Aussie forums) I found that a lot of folks were happy with the Pro Comp shocks.

I couldn't find much information on them via Mud, so compiled some information from Summit Racing into a spreadsheet. I figure as long as I have it, I might as well share, right?

Before I compiled my list I measured the max compression I would have (which was 16" with 315's), so my list doesn't contain much below 15" or anything above 19". Roughly speaking (you need to measure for yourself!) 33" tires will give you about 15" of room, 35" tires will give about 16", and 37" about 17". This is due to the tire hitting the body, so if you cut your wheel wells or installed a body lift, those numbers may change.


For comparison here is the OEM (Toyota) information:

Model		Body	Min	Max	Range		Upper	Lower

Front			13.50	22.50	09.00		Stud	Stud
Rear			13.50	22.50	09.00		Stud	Eye

For comparison here is the OME information:

Model		Body	Min	Max	Range		Upper	Lower

N73			13.57	23.40	09.83		Stud	Stud
N74E			14.57	24.40	09.83		Stud	Eye

N73L			15.23	26.26	11.03		Stud	Stud
N74L			15.23	26.26	11.03		Stud	Eye

These are the recommended shocks by Pro Comp. The first would be a set for a stock height vehicle, the second would be a set for a J spring(ish) lifted vehicle with 315's (these might be slightly long and need the bump stops spaced down a bit, it's your job to check that! ). All of these should be a straight bolt in option.

Pro Comp's customer support has been excellent. I have called them once and got my answer within minutes, and the e-mail to them regarding their recommended shock lengths was replied to in less than an hour (and during the lunch hour at that!).

Model		Body	Min	Max	Range		Upper	Lower	Gas

924530		2.36	14.56	24.50	10.12		Stud	Stud	Yes
924514		2.36	14.52	24.70	10.18		Stud	Eye	Yes

927530		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Stud	Stud	Yes
927514		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Stud	Eye	Yes

And here is the ES9000 information I've compiled from Summit's site:

Model		Body	Min	Max	Range		Upper	Lower	Gas

924514		2.36	14.52	24.70	10.18		Stud	Eye	Yes
924530		2.36	14.56	24.50	10.12		Stud	Stud	Yes
925530		2.36	14.79	25.17	10.38		Stud	Stud	Yes
924509		2.36	14.84	24.84	10.00		Eye	Eye	Yes
925501		2.36	15.49	25.74	10.25		Eye	Eye	Yes
925506		2.36	15.49	25.74	10.25		Eye	Eye	Yes
925509		2.36	15.49	27.74	12.25		Eye	Eye	Yes
925543		2.36	15.22	25.23	10.01		Eye	Eye	Yes
925553		2.36	15.22	25.22	10.00		Stud	Eye	Yes
926500		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926502		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926504		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
926505		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926505		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926508		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926508		2.36	15.94	27.07	11.13		Eye	Eye	Yes
926510		2.36	15.56	26.79	11.23		Stud	Eye	Yes
927500		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Eye	Eye	Yes
927501		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Eye	Eye	Yes
927503		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Eye	Eye	Yes
927504		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Eye	Eye	Yes
927510		2.00	15.80	27.29	11.49		Stud	Eye	Yes
927514		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Stud	Eye	Yes
927530		2.00	16.27	27.76	11.49		Stud	Stud	Yes
929500		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
929502		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
929503		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
929508		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
929510		2.36	17.09	29.77	12.68		Stud	Eye	Yes
929543		2.36	17.32	29.83	12.51		Eye	Eye	Yes
932002		2.36	18.82	32.83	14.01		Eye	Eye	Yes
932003		2.36	18.82	32.83	14.01		Eye	Eye	Yes
932007		2.36	18.82	32.83	14.01		Eye	Eye	Yes
932008		2.36	18.82	32.83	14.01		Eye	Eye	Yes

And here's some of the ES1000 and ES3000 shocks. As the ES9000's have plenty of choices for eye/eye, I only looked at their post/eye and post/post shocks in these models.

I also wouldn't recommend the ES1000 or ES3000. These will likely be too soft and won't hold up to the weight of an 80.

Here's the choices for the 1X and 3X:

Model		Body	Min	Max	Range		Upper	Lower	Gas

124515		2.00	14.38	24.35	09.97		Stud	Eye	No
125553		2.00	15.22	25.22	10.00		Stud	Eye	No
126510		2.00	15.58	26.72	11.14		Stud	Eye	No
126513		2.00	15.58	26.75	11.17		Stud	Eye	No
129510		2.00	16.87	29.32	12.45		Stud	Eye	No
									
321560		2.36	12.55	21.31	08.76		Stud	Stud	Yes
324515		2.36	14.52	24.70	10.18		Stud	Eye	No
325510		2.36	15.04	25.75	10.71		Stud	Eye	No
325530		2.36	14.79	25.17	10.38		Stud	Eye	No
326553		2.36	15.56	26.79	11.23		Stud	Eye	No
327553		2.00	15.80	27.29	11.49		Stud	Eye	No

I'm guessing that the procomp 321560 isn't actually gas charged (error on Summits site).



Thanks to Kaoscruizer who found some bushings that allow the lower rear mounts to bolt right in.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EXP-68070

Pro Comp Suspension Systems 68070 - Pro Comp Shock Bushings
Bushings, Shock, Polyurethane, Black, Hourglass Eye, 1.470 in. Long, .737 in. I.D., 1.070 in. O.D., Pair

Just a data point: 4WPW has Energy Suspension hourglass shock bushings P/N9.8108G 3/4" ID that are a direct fit for this rear shock on the 80 and cost $5.

 

[Ebag333]

For the rear there's a basically bolt in option for the OME L length shocks. Pro Comp offers their model 926510, which is 15.56" min to 26.79" max (11.23" travel, slightly longer than the OME L's), and is a stud/eye combo. Even with the medium height lift I think I'd bolt these in, and get a lot more cycling out of the rear.

There's a shorter option, the 925553, which is 15.22" to 25" (10" travel). This would probably be a good choice for 33's as they'll tuck better. They're an inch shorter in overall length than the L's, but that's still longer than the standard.

The longest option is 929510, which is 17.09 to 29.77 (12.68" travel). I'm not sure how you can fit that without adjusting the bump stop down, but if you had the bump stops adjusted for the L's they'd probably work just fine. And at 2.68" more length than the L's, you'd get quite a bit more travel in your motion.


There are no good options for bolt in for the front. The closest you can get is 925553, and you will need an adapter for the bottom mount, which loses you about an inch. You may have to adjust the bump stop even with that short of one, and the range isn't that great (10", an inch shorter than the L's). It's certainly an option, though.



Just for reference, I ordered 929508 (12.5" travel) for the front an 932008 (14" travel) for the rear. I plan on making new upper shock tower mounts for both front and rear, and using an adapter in the front for the lower mount (hence the shorter shock).

The rear does have more room to go up, especially if you have a body lift. It looks like I could go up between 4" and 5" from the stock location (the body lift gives me tons more room), though I'm only planning on going up about 3", which should put the min on the 932008's at 15.82" from the stock location. Fully compressed I'm sitting at 16" between the bottom of the upper shock mount and the center of the lower shock mount, so that should give me a bit of room to play with.

I could probably fit the next longest shock if I went up even further, but I didn't like the idea of having it that close to the body, and wanted plenty of room for adjustments.


My total was $153.96 delivered to my door for all 4. Slee sells the OME's for $186 a pair ($368 for four) not including shipping.

 

[Ebag333]

Shocks arrived today.

 

[Wrench]

What happened to this thread? All my posts are gone. A lot of great info is gone!

 

[Ebag333]

What happened to this thread? All my posts are gone. A lot of great info is gone!

I know.

sigh...operator error, lost the database, had to restore a backup from Monday....

Looks like Woody trashed the DB.


Did all your questions get answered though?

Shocks arrived today.

So finally got home and took a look at 'em. First thought is that they're beefy. They're at least as hefty as the OME's I got.

You can compress them by hand just like the OME's, though it takes a bit more force. Of course that doesn't tell you anything about the performance.

Tomorrow I'm hoping to get the upper shock mounts setup. Maybe. Perhaps. It's supposed to be 100+ so maybe not.....

 

[Wrench]

Yeah thanks. I'm just waiting on finding out how good these will ride on and off road.

 

[alkaline747trio]

I'm sure the initial 10k will be awesome. Hell mine felt like a caddy for those 10k, but after that they just start degrading fast....real fast. I have about 15k on mine and they are shot. Granted, I wheel often and HARD. I have larger tires than most. And I was DD'n it and still wheeling it like a beater. But 15k is 15k to me, and that is sad...even for $75 bucks.

 

[jrjarrett76]

AlkTrio...

I'm thinking the 200 savings upfront might do it for me right now. If I recall you have 2.5" coils. What model of ES9000s are you running?

Thanks!

 

[retrofive]

Keep in mind you will need modify or use adapter for the front like Ebag said earlier.

 

[jrjarrett76]

I'm stock right now. Planning on going to med OME springs looking for alternative to OME shocks. Might settle for them with the higher price but looking to match PC ES9000s and trying to find info on what Downey was using on their kit. (It appears they have folded???)

 

[alkaline747trio]

6" Slee coils, and was running ES3000s in 14" flavor. 1000s and 3000s would do fine in dual shock applications on rigs as heavy as an 80, maybe the 9000s will stand up a little better. But 'you get what you pay for' holds true IMO.

 

[Ebag333]

I'm sure the initial 10k will be awesome. Hell mine felt like a caddy for those 10k, but after that they just start degrading fast....real fast. I have about 15k on mine and they are shot. Granted, I wheel often and HARD. I have larger tires than most. And I was DD'n it and still wheeling it like a beater. But 15k is 15k to me, and that is sad...even for $75 bucks.

I've heard nothing but good things about 4wheelparts and them warrantying the shocks if they go out. It might be worth contacting them and seeing if they'll replace your shocks.

6" Slee coils, and was running ES3000s in 14" flavor. 1000s and 3000s would do fine in dual shock applications on rigs as heavy as an 80, maybe the 9000s will stand up a little better. But 'you get what you pay for' holds true IMO.

It's my hope that having smaller tires, less lift, and the heavier ES9000's will make the difference.

I haven't seen much detailed long term feedback, but as I mentioned before (before the thread got wiped) the Pro Comps are popular on the Aussie forums. And it seems everyone runs the ES9000's, not the ES1000's or ES3000's.

Just remember, they are a budget shock. But so are the OME's, really.

OME are one of the cheaper end shocks on the market, with the best marketing.

In fact, from what I've read OME's and Monroes shocks are both made by the same company (though with different specs, of course).

 

[Ebag333]

Reposted from another thread, but a lot of the information was originally here (in one form or another).

Go with the L shocks over the standard OME's. The standard are too short, and you can (probably) run L's without adjusting your bump stops (despite what some claim).

You will need to measure your compression to determine if you can run L's without adjusting your bump stops. You'll need whatever tires you are going to run in order to properly measure it, as the tire is going to be more a limiting factor on your compression than anything else.

For what it's worth, with 315's I have exactly 16" of compression in the rear. There is no way I can get more than that without cutting my wheel wells. I currently have the standard OME shocks (not the L's), and am moving to a longer shock because mine are too short (they were too short before the spacers, now they're really too short).

The L's are 15.23" long fully compressed, so if you're running 315's you should have plenty of room with the stock bump stops, and will get 2" more down travel than the standard (big difference). If you're running 33" tires, then you may need to adjust the bump stops down a bit, but likely in the .5" to 1" range, not the 2" range. If you adjust your bump stops down, you will lose upward travel (compression), so I would measure first before you pick your shock.

The OME's feel too soft for me, so I'm switching to long travel Pro Comps. You can see some of the discussion here, but a lot of good info was lost when the database was restored back to a few days ago.

 

[Wrench]

Can I get a link to Aussie forums? Thank you.

 

[alkaline747trio]

They wont replace any shocks with a dented body....mine didn't take long to be beyond that.

 

[Tools R Us]

IIRC Pro Comp is a brand, most of their products private label from other manufactures. They may or may not use the same vendor for all markets, so the Aussie shocks could be different manufacture/spec/shock from what we get? In this case I don't know who the manufacture is, but it wouldn't be the first time where a product works well in one market, not in another and is found to be different parts with the same name/part number.

 

[alkaline747trio]

Tools, that is probably the best explanation.

 

[PKP80]

Ever since I upgraded to KING/FOX shocks there is NO looking back. the amount of control and valving you get with them especially given the weigh of an 80 is well worth adding Eyes to mount them. plus they are fully rebuildable.

 

[cruiserruf]

Ebag333 have you installed the pro comp shocks yet? do you have any pictures?

 

[Ebag333]

Ebag333 have you installed the pro comp shocks yet? do you have any pictures?

Not yet.

Was going to, then getting a new exhaust got in the way. Boo hoo me, I know.

Planning to on Sunday. (*fingers crossed*)