Paki soft top demand question

Would you order a Paki top if available in a few weeks?

  • Yes, where do I send the money??

    Votes: 64 74.4%
  • No, I am waiting for an American made option.

    Votes: 23 26.7%

  • Total voters
    86

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I'm probably about a year away from wanting one, but after a lengthy rebuild process, when I want one, I won't want to wait another year to get one. On top of that the ability to drive down and pick it up - worth some extra cost.
 
Your main problem will be demanding customers who expect perfection and cannot comprehend that what they are getting is inescapably a hand made product that will never be perfect, regardless of QC improvements. These are the people who drive a low-volume businesses out of business.

I didn't expect perfection.

What I did expect was a top without paint and grease on it and windows that weren't embossed by the zippers, and I did expect a RHD windshield frame that I ordered instead of the LHD frame I received, and I did expect a response from Eshan when I pointed these problems out to him.

Low volume, high volume, hand-made, machine-made - it doesn't matter. If the company is not willing to stand behind their products and correct their mistakes they're running themselves out of business.

To keep this thread on topic: I would have appreciated a US based distributor/middleman to insure we got what we paid for and be available for recourse if we didn't.
 
I hear that your top arrived yesterday. How does it look?

So whats the deal here??

This top is totally different from the first one....

The quality and workmanship are far better than the first....

The zippers, windows, material and metal hardware are superior...

I'm very happy with the top just need to remove the ink markings...

I'll post up a couple of pics later........

So why didn't I get this top to start with?

You really have no idea how fast the first top just fell apart.....
 
So whats the deal here??

This top is totally different from the first one....

The quality and workmanship are far better than the first....

The zippers, windows, material and metal hardware are superior...

I'm very happy with the top just need to remove the ink markings...

I'll post up a couple of pics later........

So why didn't I get this top to start with?

You really have no idea how fast the first top just fell apart.....


I told you, new german thread, new YKK zippers, better rings, better quality control. The pen marks will fade with time. Not that I had anything to do with it, but I'm glad you're finally happy!
 
What do mean "I told you"........ first I heard anything about this.........

Are we looking at these tops as first and second generation makes?......

Is there a "Good".... "Better".... "Best"....?

So... If ordered another what would I get ?

I forgot to mention the Tan color on the second top is a much closer match........
 
What do mean "I told you"........ first I heard anything about this.........

Are we looking at these tops as first and second generation makes?......

Is there a "Good".... "Better".... "Best"....?

So... If ordered another what would I get ?

I forgot to mention the Tan color on the second top is a much closer match........



I posted yesterday...read back aways. This is how they are going to be from now on.
 
What do mean "I told you"........ first I heard anything about this.........

Are we looking at these tops as first and second generation makes?......

Is there a "Good".... "Better".... "Best"....?

So... If ordered another what would I get ?

I forgot to mention the Tan color on the second top is a much closer match........

sounds like a backhanded compliment...:crybaby:
 
I have been corresponding with Ehsan and it seems like he is making a big commitment to start manufacturing tops in a more timely manner. He has hired some new workers and has outsourced his shipping to ensure that things ship faster than before.

I am considering bringing in an order of tops and misc. parts like stamped bezels and tailgates and selling them for a profit. I want to be upfront about that. One major concern I have is that people will be upset about this. If I do this, I will be laying out a lot of cash and assuming all the risks as well as creating overhead for things like storage and shipping supplies. I don't want to gouge anybody. If you order a top on your own through Ehsan, the cost is about $1,325 to your door and it takes several months. I would sell them for about $1,200+ shipping cost to your door. There would be no international shipping wait, just the time it takes to ship from Boston to wherever you are.

What do people think about this???

Upset about making a profit??? What do people think this is, charity work? Sure, forums are about helping each other our and sharing each others passion for the LC's, but anyone who would be upset about a person providing a product and service for a fee that generates a proft should just quit their job because that is what we all do on a daily basis.

I would love a Paki top and I am willing to spend good money for one. What I am not willing to do is send $1K+ to some guy a half a world away and hoping that my product arrives (as ordered and not damaged) in less than a year. There is obviously plenty of people who have been willing to do so, which tells me there is a decent little market for this for people to take that type of risk and wait that long. If you have a reputable company who makes ordering easy, sells a quality product, ships in a timely manner, and provides good customer support then I think it would do well
 
I would like to buy another top.

Alex, your a top notch guy, and it was a pleasure doing business with you. So when you have an inventory post up because I would like another Top. I don't need the bows.
Good Luck with your endeavor:cheers:.

Thanks,
Vince

P.S. Ehsan makes a quality product at a good price. I am very happy with my Top.
 
I've almost ordered a top many times, but the wait and distance was the deal killer each time. A US distributor would make a huge difference to me.

Clint

Thats exactly it - I watched several group orders take shape and happen, thinking it'll take too long to wait...

...then the orders were in, and I had still done nothing to get a top.

So I went in on the last one w/SouthBoston.. and low and behold, now I have one.

But if you'd rather just wait.....
 
I need top, bows, everything! It's 65 degrees today and would like to go for a drive considering there was 8 inches of sow 2 days ago...
 
I gotta tell ya, After reading the latest change in current events I'd be up for one. Anyway I can change my vote in the poll?
 
Another dreamer

So you will get your bulk order before mine and I've waiting over a year for my two tops and you'll have the different top sizes for the different model FJ, BJ, HJ. Dream on and I hope the best for you, but I want my tops and the other peoples back order tops first, Ehsan knows the list of people waiting. He is doing his best with the labor problems over there, but he must clean up his order list before jumping on with someone else making a big a bulk order. A lot of people are waiting. You popping up like you’re here to save the day is sort of silly. Do you think you can ride in and just solve this problem logistically and dynamically? Hate to be a “Dream Reaper”
 
Ehsan knows the list of people waiting. He is doing his best with the labor problems over there,

Labor problems? I thought those folks were hard up for work, or is this a union thing?
 
I think that we should expect some tweaking to be done on any bulk order but from what I can tell that happens now. I know I would love a top and bows and if when I'm ready to pull the trigger and order I only had to wait a few weeks rather than six months to a year then I'm all for it and I have no problem with a profit being made by a US distributor or by Ehsan. I think this would be a valuable service to our community.
 
So you will get your bulk order before mine and I've waiting over a year for my two tops and you'll have the different top sizes for the different model FJ, BJ, HJ. Dream on and I hope the best for you, but I want my tops and the other peoples back order tops first, Ehsan knows the list of people waiting. He is doing his best with the labor problems over there, but he must clean up his order list before jumping on with someone else making a big a bulk order. A lot of people are waiting. You popping up like you’re here to save the day is sort of silly. Do you think you can ride in and just solve this problem logistically and dynamically? Hate to be a “Dream Reaper”

Who else is waiting besides you? Give me the usernames.
 
It would be valuable service to our community, but Ehan is in the process of getting his house in order. I think it would be best to clean the up back orders first. than do the new bulk orders
 

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