Operation Overkill-Drawers

[TLCAddict]

not outta control

that sounds like my old boss, he would get soo pissed that i wouldnt use the comp to do commercial building sets, but i was still faster than the guys that did.

I'm tellin ya Aluminum is the way to go. Oh and you can use woodworking tools to cut it in a bind.

619toy-
he's not outta control...that's normal for him - just sufferin from a lil bit of anal retentiveness & OCD!!! that's a compliment joey

he probably doesn't wanna do aluminum cuz if he bangs it up or scratches it...it won't look puurrtty to him anymore.

joey-
did you order cadtools or west marine bling?

 

[NLXTACY]

Ok, you are completely out of control now. Actually, we build stuff like this every day at my shop, it's all still pretty straightforward as long as you're a pretty proficient woodworker. But I should let you know that the gas strut will never work oriented like that How long 'til wood hits the saw?

Hehe, I hadn't worked out the actual physics of the gas strut and figured I would do that once I was actually closer to it. I just through it there to show what I will eventually be doing.

I am NOT a proficient woodworker BUT I can read and understand images so I will fake it as I go. I would love to be able to just have someone build this for me but.... I dunno.

Once I figure out the specifics to what I want to do and start sourcing most of the materials and then do more research on the wood I want to use, THEN I will start trying not to chop my fingers off. I would ideally like to have it done by Surf 'n' Turf but I really doubt it. Too much to do as it is. So maybe I'll work on it during some rainy days this winter.

 

[NLXTACY]

that sounds like my old boss, he would get soo pissed that i wouldnt use the comp to do commercial building sets, but i was still faster than the guys that did.

So with the tool drawer, how deep is it overall? it seems like its going to have to be fairly deep to fit two layers of tools, and abs insert between the two and the floor still retain enough strength since your using that "wood" stuff.

I'm tellin ya Aluminum is the way to go. Oh and you can use woodworking tools to cut it in a bind.

I am not totally sure on the depth of the tool drawer but right now I am leaning towards 5 inches. I have been pouring over the "must have tools" threads here on to figure out what I should have.

Seriously I wouldn't mind doing aluminum at all and I could source it really easily here in Burbank/Sun Valley but I can't/don't do welding.

 

[NLXTACY]

619toy-
he's not outta control...that's normal for him - just sufferin from a lil bit of anal retentiveness & OCD!!! that's a compliment joey

he probably doesn't wanna do aluminum cuz if he bangs it up or scratches it...it won't look puurrtty to him anymore.

joey-
did you order cadtools or west marine bling?

Well IF I went the aluminum route I would only do aluminum frame and then wood skin. I am doing carpet top.

Nope, I didn't look into the CAD stuff yet, I just got home after going to the movies and then meeting, and then talking to FOR THREE HOURS at the gas station, Shahram.

 

[4xoddic]

Glad I'm not the only Panty who can't sleep per TV sleep# criteria.

Man-O-Man do I wish my Dad had retired this year instead of 24 years ago! He worked at Beechcraft his entire life & taught sheetmetal assembly the last few. All of his neighbors are retired Beechcrafters. Those guys could set up a hobby shop & Mud could keep them in coffee $.

For Scouts, Dad designed & built Al reflector ovens which assembled with cotter pins: face toward campfire & presto Bisquick drop biscuits a few minutes later! Dad frittered some time away making a couple of prototypes = aluminum helicopter & OSHA heli-outhouse (Govt. mandate to provide privy in close proximity to wheatfields for harvest crew, etc.)

 

[wierdbeard]

joey, if you want/need help on designing aluminum pieces so you can assemble yourself, (wood,metalcombo) all ya gotta do is ask. its no problem. i see aluminum horizontal load bearing pieces, attached to MDF or wood verticals. very easy. I just personally prefer not having any parts be the weak point in case of humidity or flooding or user error. So when you come up how long will you be here? i have to go to So-Cal for two days around that time frame.

 

[NLXTACY]

Glad I'm not the only Panty who can't sleep per TV sleep# criteria.

Yeah 4 hours of sleep per night can definitely be a curse at times

 

[619TOY]

Once I figure out the specifics to what I want to do and start sourcing most of the materials and then do more research on the wood I want to use.

My first recommendation for wood is marine grade Baltic Birch plywood. My second choice would be MDF as it is less expensive and easier to work with.

Another option to think about to address all of those recommending aluminum would be to use 80/2080/20® Inc. - The Industrial Erector Set®. It is basically an erector set for adults. You can make just about anything out of it with a little imagination. It requires no welding, only cutting on a chop/mitre saw. Or perhaps a hybrid, wood and 80/20 box. We do that alot at work as well.

 

[NLXTACY]

joey, if you want/need help on designing aluminum pieces so you can assemble yourself, (wood,metalcombo) all ya gotta do is ask. its no problem. i see aluminum horizontal load bearing pieces, attached to MDF or wood verticals. very easy. I just personally prefer not having any parts be the weak point in case of humidity or flooding or user error. So when you come up how long will you be here? i have to go to So-Cal for two days around that time frame.

Well we'll see as I get a little more educated on this. I HATE MDF so I definitely won't be going that route. Humidity is zero issue living in SoCal. Flooding? Hmm, I don't see it but a water fording here or there is a possibility which is why I am considering doing the marine ployeurethane.

I will be up in NorCal Oct. 25-28

 

[TLCAddict]

baltic birch/aluminum combo

joey, if you want/need help on designing aluminum pieces so you can assemble yourself, (wood,metalcombo) all ya gotta do is ask. its no problem. i see aluminum horizontal load bearing pieces, attached to MDF or wood verticals. very easy. I just personally prefer not having any parts be the weak point in case of humidity or flooding or user error. So when you come up how long will you be here? i have to go to So-Cal for two days around that time frame.

I agree w/ 619 (baltic birch ply/aluminum combo) framing would support the loads better & add strength in areas needed most, it's not overkill - like those allstate billboards, it's peace of mind.

My first recommendation for wood is marine grade Baltic Birch plywood. My second choice would be MDF as it is less expensive and easier to work with.

x2 on the baltic birch ply. 1/2", up to 5/8" would be sufficient. it accepts hardware better. imho, anything thicker would be overbuilt & add unnecessary weight.

I don't know any local baltic birch ply suppliers in the valley. the ones I use are near downtown & culver city. if you already have a wood resource, great! if not, lemme know.

 

[bpassmore]

So, Joey, where are you on this? Inquiring minds want to know. plus we need more cruiser porn.

 

[NLXTACY]

Brett you suck!

Well I have given this a lot of thought and I have come around on the aluminum frame with a baltic birch skin. I just installed an IPOR bumper/tire carrier and the back end sits a little bit lower. Not that much. So rear springs may be coming which means I might as well get my ass in gear

 

[bpassmore]

mud is cool.

 

[Old#7]

In regards to your file exporting issue, Just download the demo of the pro version, you then have a few hours to use it. Just be sure you have everything finished before you export, then you don't have to worry about trying to export another file and having your time limit run out.

 

[fjfar80]

I think your drawer system is looking good...the only thing I don't see is the onboard water system...surely you are adding that????

- Mark

 

[p8nt]

Yeah, you mentioned haveing cool bladder idea. Care to share? Great project BTW!

 

[Proven]

Seriously...I was enjoying this thread and then it died a few months back. It was like the hottest post on mud and then it quenched like a hot iron and fell to page three...I NEED MY FIX!! MORE SEXY CAD STUFFS!

You've put so much time and work into the design of this I think you should consider building a few for sale. Maybe you could come up with a kit using pre-fab pieces that you threw into a box that required assembly.

You mentioned in a post above that people wouldn't have the same tool tastes as you...so what? Just include the foam without any cutting. Let them do that like sears does with their tool chests. I know if I was in the market for a drawer system, this one is what I would want for the sheer sexiness.

So...any news?

 

[Lugboot]

Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread up to now.

Joey, you, sir, are amazing. Keep up the good work--I am interested in this water bladder idea as well.

And, of course, the drawer system as a whole.

Brett

 

[unwiredadventures]

Yeah, you mentioned haveing cool bladder idea. Care to share? Great project BTW!

I'm about ready to order a couple bladders to try out.

It'll be a couple weeks before I have them.

I like the stainless steel tank idea. But where would I put a water tank? I already have an aux gas tank where the spare tire was.

 

[NLXTACY]

I think your drawer system is looking good...the only thing I don't see is the onboard water system...surely you are adding that????

Yeah, you mentioned haveing cool bladder idea. Care to share? Great project BTW!

Ok ok, I'll show my hand. Here is the bladder I am seriously considering using. BUT I may just go with a stainless setup to prevent affecting the taste of the water long term and so I can also pressurize the system if I were so inclined. With a bladder you CANNOT keep the water in there!! That is a big negative in my book.

The bladders for Landcruisers:
Flexi Tank Water Tanks | ARB 4x4 Accessories
and of course the maker:
Flexitank

Chew on that for awhile

Oh and they are only around $200