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Exactly correct Rafael. I attended regular high school, full course load and went to Tech school at the same time. I was told by several high school teachers that without a college degree I'd never go anywhere. They were self righteous on a good day.

I agree that teachers are underpaid on a whole. I also agree that there is a whole lot of evidence supporting the saying "those that can't do, teach" My sister is a prime example. She is a screaming liberal that dumps her personal views on students that are forced to listen to her and SHE is the authority. She thinks because she did the research that she actually did the work. All she does is pass on things that she read, zero practical experience in anything, except teaching.

That was the point of the meme, those that never did anything but teach telling young minds that unless they go the same route with college, they will never do anything EITHER. I had some very good teachers that actually cared, but I had just as many that were just scatting by.

Interesting - I see your point about how it reads. When I first read it, I came away with a different feel because "the teachers" reads a lot different than "that teacher". I guess you could fill in "teachers" with "classmates", "uncle", etc and it wouldn't matter. Just resonated with me because the fact someone makes more than a teacher really isn't anything to write home about, and that's a crying shame(especially one that had just been skating by, who likely hasn't moved up at all). Also, since this is chat, who's to say salary is THAT important. This guy might absolutely hate his job and not have any other options because he only has that skill? There's probably a LOT of tradesmen that make more money than me, but I'm a.o.k. with that. I dig the fact that I work from home, never "punch a clock", etc. Different strokes for different folks that make the world go round!

Just an overall weird meme to me... but I'm trying to not sound too judgmental though the keyboard, which is hard to convey.
 
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I am "judge-mental", he is wearing skinny jeans. He is an overlander with a blowtorch, wearing an Abercrombie flammable plaid shirt.
 
I am "judge-mental", he is wearing skinny jeans. He is an overlander with a blowtorch, wearing an Abercrombie flammable plaid shirt.

wait wait wait.... are you saying I can't go overlanding in Skinny Jeans??? lol
 
As the son, husband, brother of a teacher I will say they are the most underpaid people in the country. All of them would also say there are some pretty s***ty teachers out there though, but that is due to the bad pay on some part. That is also like any other job unless it is a commission only job because people who are bad at that don't last very long making nothing.

I think the main point is that you can be successful with or without a college degree if you have the drive to, plenty without that are not and plenty with that are not.

I also don't think Stan meant to offend anyone with the meme :cheers:
 
Please don't :)


Fine i'll just take them off then...... no I can't wear skinny pants of any kind, maybe its because of where I grew up but even my work pants are fairly loose compared to others.
 
Skinny jeans aside, I come from a different situation where my parents and grandparents arrived in the US with only the clothes on their back, and the knowledge in their heads. No luggage was allowed to leave Cuba. So all my life, I heard the same thing, “knowledge is the only thing “they” can’t take from you, all else “they” can take”. Communist revolutionaries target teachers to keep the population ignorant, they do know the power of knowledge. Neither of my parents went to college, barely high school. My mom eventually got a music teacher certificate in Florida, with 3 kids, going to school at night.

So education was the most important thing growing up, every time I wasn’t working my grandma would ask me if there’s wasn’t a class I could take. Any class on any subject, didn’t matter what. For them, knowledge was that important. Doesn’t have to be college, but school and learning wasn’t taken lightly growing up. And teachers where treated with upmost respect, good ones and bad ones. Now, a million years later, my youngest is going to college to be a teacher. Hope he is a great one.
 
Let's be honest here......where was the last time you had pants on and not shorts. lol

I generally have to wear pants at work unless it is summer or it is a friday. Plus Andrea is tired of all the strange looks we get when i'm walking around in freezing weather like that. So more than I used to. I still do it some time like when I walked around xmas eve while it was snowing in shorts and a t-shirt.
 
don't worry washington's is much worse


I think Connecticut, Hawaii and Alabama take the best though.
 
don't worry washington's is much worse


I think Connecticut, Hawaii and Alabama take the best though.

Alabama.... it was a special election year....:rofl:
 
Teacher pay is commensurate with the value a community/state places on education. I am about to commit heresy with with a southern club, so if you're easily offended, please look away. NC doesn't really give a s*** about education. There are a great many things I miss about NC, but the schools are absolutely not one of them. My boys HATED school down there, and the teachers, despite valiant efforts, were completely hamstrung by a system driven by a curriculum installed by politicians.
I am not rich,but I make good money. The teachers at the school my boys attend can afford to live in the same town, in similar neighborhoods. My local taxes are high because we pay our teachers, because we care about educating our kids.
In MA, a teacher, with a Masters, can make 6 figures (cops can too). A community/town/state pays for what it values. In NC that is not education.
 
Yeah, it does suck to be in the bottom since people typically spend money on what they care.

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I find those charts interesting as Missouri and Kansas spend about the same per student and Missouri schools really suck bad and KS schools are among the nation's best. Gov Brownback from KS really cut funding for schools - wondering if the impact is above.
 
DC schools are number 2 in spending, I thought they were more dangerous than Baltimore. So correlations are not causation, but NC is low. The school programs in CharMeck are always being cut, kids have less and less to choose from, that’s real and does suck. Still, they have hundreds of options I never had in reformatory schools.
 
As most of you know, Shannon is a teacher. She graduated with a double major in Fashion Marketing and Fashion Design from UNCG. She hated the field and always wanted to be a teacher. She went back to NC State for her teaching degree, Masters degree in Mathematics, and recently received her National Board Certification. She works 50 hours a week and we have to save up to make it through the summer when she isn't working. If we relied on Shannon's income alone, we would be rough financial shape. North Carolina for the last decade has been struggling to maintain teacher pay at the current level, much less increase it. Whether it's Purdue, McCrory, or Cooper, no one is investing in the teachers.
 

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