New Yokohama A/T- Revo Competitor + 35" availability

[cary]

Hey,

I just found out that Yokohama has released a new tire, the A/T-S. I appears it will be a replacement for the A/T-II which never did very well. Pricing is close to the A/T-II. They will also be available in a 285/75/16 and a 315/75/16 and for the 100 guys 315/70/17. Any thoughts?

BTW, here is the link:

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=600&ID=lt

 

[Nay]

Hey,

I just found out that Yokohama has released a new tire, the A/T-S. I appears it will be a replacement for the A/T-II which never did very well. Pricing is close to the A/T-II. They will also be available in a 285/75/16 and a 315/75/16 and for the 100 guys 315/70/17. Any thoughts?

BTW, here is the link:

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=600&ID=lt

It looks like a very road biased tread. Even the best AT's let you down when you really need them, and this looks more like a pickup truck touring tire.

 

[Brentbba]

It looks like a very road biased tread. Even the best AT's let you down when you really need them, and this looks more like a pickup truck touring tire.

Agreed - looks very similar to the stock Michelin Landcruisers are/were delivered with.

 

[landtank]

Just what I'm looking for in a tire. Next summer I was going to look hard at the AT-IIs as I want a road tire because I have a set of muds mounted on steels.

There was a thread not long ago asking for just this tire.

 

[cary]

It looks like a very road biased tread. Even the best AT's let you down when you really need them, and this looks more like a pickup truck touring tire.

Take a close look at the PDF of them and the Bridgestone A/T and you will see they are very close. Also, you better tell Yokohama they are a road tire, as apparently they have been under the mistaken belief they are an A/T tire and have been testing them in Score racing. See this release from Yokohama (as well the PDF showing them being used):

http://www.yokohamatire.com/news_11_15_2004.asp

Also see the followiing:

Board Ford Motorsports to campaign two SCORE Trophy-Trucks at SCORE Baja 1000.

Southern California teammates Cameron Steele and Clyde Stout along with Board Ford Motorsports Race Manager Chris Vano have expanded their horizons for this year's Tecate SCORE Baja 1000 desert race into a three-team effort. The California-based racers will be part of not only SCORE Trophy-Truck No. 16, but have also joined forces as part of SCORE Trophy-Truck No. 2 with Arizona's Pete Sohren and Rick Geiser.


Although nearly all of the sponsors cross over, one who is solely identified with the #16 SCORE Trophy-Truck is the Yokohama Tire Corporation who has put their full support behind the SCORE Trophy-Truck program driven by Steele and Stout. The team has been testing Yokohama Geolandar tires since late July and is of the opinion that the tire is superior to others in the category, with a more durable tread than many of its competitors. Last year the same team drove the Tecate SCORE Baja 1000 and brought home the win for Yokohama in the hotly contested Class 1-2/1600 buggy class, which was the largest of all classes at last year's event.

 

[stevezero]

I have a set of AT-II's that I bought in June to replace the stock michelins. I went to 285's on stock wheels. They are fairly quiet (compared to a BFG AT, but nowhere near as quiet as the michelin streeties). They are also a very soft compound tire, so I'm not sure if I'll get 40k + out of them. Wet weather traction is great. I've only had them hydroplane on my twice, both times at highway speeds hitting a very deep/long puddle (3 inches deep). They sheet normail rainfall away from the tire. Very deep lugs.I'm curious to see how they do in the winter wet (not that we get a whole bunch here in NC). I've been impressed with beach driving, and some mild forest road exploration. They do have a tendency to wander side to side at hwy speeds larger/wider size rolling over on the sidewall a bit i think).

They did take alot of weight to balance the first go around. On the first highway trip, i had a bad vibration in the left rear that took an additional 1.25 oz to correct (might have thrown a wheelweight). I watched em respin it, and said that if the vibration was still there, they would be replacing the tire... its not noticable now.

I'm pretty happy with them. I paid 144.00 per tire with the full deal, and another 15-20 for the cert.

Steve

 

[Ted44]

Just did a search on Yoko's site and they think my 95 FZJ takes a 15 inch tire

 

[Nay]

Take a close look at the PDF of them and the Bridgestone A/T and you will see they are very close. Also, you better tell Yokohama they are a road tire

The Revo is also a road tire

All "all terrains" are road tires, because when you have "all terrain" in "all conditions" they suck. This tire hardly looks to have changed that equation.

You buy these in 315 size, and you get out where you really need traction, and this is not the tire I'd want to be relying on (or Revos or Nittos or BFGs for that matter).

They are probably great for the tow rig, though.

Nay

 

[Capocaccia]

The Revo is also a road tire

All "all terrains" are road tires, because when you have "all terrain" in "all conditions" they suck. This tire hardly looks to have changed that equation.

You buy these in 315 size, and you get out where you really need traction, and this is not the tire I'd want to be relying on (or Revos or Nittos or BFGs for that matter).

They are probably great for the tow rig, though.

Nay

For me, my BFG All Terrains do GREAT in everything besides thick mud. They simply werent made for it. Thats why they make Mud Terrain tires. You cant rely on an all terrain for your mud situations. Thats about the only situation I cant rely on my BFG A/Ts to get me through.

 

[Nay]

For me, my BFG All Terrains do GREAT in everything besides thick mud. They simply werent made for it. Thats why they make Mud Terrain tires. You cant rely on an all terrain for your mud situations. Thats about the only situation I cant rely on my BFG A/Ts to get me through.

I couldn't rely on my BFG all terrains to get me through 8" of snow and freezing slush to travel the 6 feet it would have taken to get back into my garage with both lockers engaged last winter when the temps dropped to about 25 degrees (and have experienced this tire "freezing up" in the past). Just sitting and spinning all four on a nearly flat surface with the garage door open a few feet away looking like an absolute moron.

AT's are like limited slips. Always let you down when you need them the most - just depends on whether or not you can afford to be let down.

Nay

 

[Lexonroids]

What do you guys think of the Geolander M/T+ compared to the BFG MTR's.
And will 305/70r16's fit under a stock vehicle. I am waiting on my lift but need tires now.

 

[LandCrusher'70]

What do you guys think of the Geolander M/T+ compared to the BFG MTR's.
And will 305/70r16's fit under a stock vehicle. I am waiting on my lift but need tires now.

A 295/75r16 will fit under there, so yeah, it'll fit. The 305 will hang slightly lower though. Slightly.

 

[Tools R Us]

AT's are like limited slips. Always let you down when you need them the most - just depends on whether or not you can afford to be let down.

Nay

It depends on the terrain that you wheel in, in mud, snow, slop, a mud tire is needed. For the desert terrain that I wheel in my Nitto AT's have never let me down. For sand you want a less aggressive tire with a softer carcass to float on the sand, most of the time an AT will perform as well or better than a MT. On dry rock, getting traction is about getting the maximum rubber on the rock, here again a good AT works well.

One of my wheeling buddies has a rock crawler that runs Nitto AT's, looks silly, but in our terrain it works great. He is moving up to 37's and says that if Terra Grapplers come in 37's he would buy them again.

The tire that you feel would let you down may be the best tire for others in different terrain. The best bet for tire selection, is to go on some local club runs and see what tires work best in your local terrain.

 

[Boston Mangler]

I will be picking up a set of these soon as my stree/lighter duty trail tires.

Have seen them perfrom well on the trail, damn close to the same as the Revo but at a fraction of the price!

Personally, i think all the hype over the revos is insane! That tire is WAYY overpriced IMHO!

I believe the 285/75-16 Geos can be had for $91 or something like that!

P.S. I currently run MTR's which are great but dont wear well for LONG road trips!

P.S.S The GEO ATII was used by wide open baja on ALL of their race vehicles at this years Baja1000 and they didnt get a single flat. They operate a "rent a race car" biz in baja and had 10 or so rigs in the race and NO FLATS!

 

[bjowett]

Good pic of the AT/S tread...

 

[cary]

The tread picture makes me think it will be a good desert tire and good in the rain, but the lack of sharp edges and siping tells me they will not be very good in the snow and ice. Compare it to the Revo and BFG A/T (which people complain about in the snow, but is the only one of the three that has the severe snow rating approval).

 

[Boston Mangler]

Good pic of the AT/S tread...

Looks Good!

FYI, www.tirerack.com still has the ATII's for short $, looks almost identical!

 

[landtank]

I have 2 sets of rims just because youcan't get it all in one tire. I like the new Yokos and might by a set for summer driving.

 

[Boston Mangler]

Yup! Same here, i have a set of Tundra steelies that will get a set of Yokos for summer driving and long road type trips!

 

[Montana Cruiser]

Compare it to the Revo and BFG A/T (which people complain about in the snow, but is the only one of the three that has the severe snow rating approval).

I wasn't aware of any complaints about the Revo in the snow I've owned 2 sets now 275's and 285's and have nothing but good things to say about their rain, snow and ice performance.

I agree that they (Revo) are very spendy, but they are also an excellent tire. I would love to hear that the Yoko's perform as well for less $$. They do look like they have a more similar tread pattern to the Revo then the BFG IMHO.