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This video seems to do a good job of explaining the new AT4W.
New Falken A/T4W (1 Viewer)
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NVM, someone already posted the same video.
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Ha, that's funny! I'm new to AT tires with my current set of BFG KO2s being my first and with 5,200 miles on them, I'm almost upset at how new they look.
I was so used to literally wearing down tires to the wires around 3,000-5,000 miles on my racecars that even the 5,200 miles seems like an eternity in tire life to me.
I know that feeling. I wanted my KO2's to wear faster so I could move on to something else.
Haha I see what you did thereI know that feeling. I wanted my KO2's to wear faster so I could move on to something else.
I like them, just not used to tires lasting so long.probably going in the same direction. Still liking the at4's?
Ive put over 4000 miles on my AT4s now from a trip, I really like them! They give the super aggressive sideway look I wanted. Much quieter than K02s and very comfortable on the highway. I haven't decided what PSI to run them daily driving/highway. 40 psi doesn't seem to give a mpg improvement over 33 psi.
Took them offroad about 100 miles, and they did great. This trip wasn't super technical stuff but they performed really well.
Getting close to my first tire rotation with them! 285 70R17 fits in the spare tire perfectly, so I went with 5.
Took them offroad about 100 miles, and they did great. This trip wasn't super technical stuff but they performed really well.
Getting close to my first tire rotation with them! 285 70R17 fits in the spare tire perfectly, so I went with 5.
what tire did you come from and how's the mpg difference? I want to go with these but that tire weight has me second guessing? they look great!
Well it was stock before this lol. I haven't noticed a difference in mpg somehow. I get about 10-13 city/ 15 highway, according to the truck, I haven't taken the time to actually measure it on paper.
I recently put on the AT4’s in a 285/65 SL. I’m coming from Michelin Defenders (285/60 XL) which I had for only 1500 miles before I wanted to switch them out. I know a lot of people love the Michelins, but I did not like how they felt squishy during turn in and throughout a corner. Straight line on a highway they were fine but I didn’t like how they felt over square edge bumps. The tire just felt unrefined to me unless going straight on smooth surfaces. I ran them at 33psi cold.
It’s been snowing a lot here so I’ve only done a couple of short trips on the AT4s but right off the bat I noticed the stiffer sidewall and a more planted on center feel. They look good too. I’ll report back when I get more miles in.
It’s been snowing a lot here so I’ve only done a couple of short trips on the AT4s but right off the bat I noticed the stiffer sidewall and a more planted on center feel. They look good too. I’ll report back when I get more miles in.
Update to this thread.....
I went from 275/65/20 AT3W's load range E after about 80k miles to 285/75/17 AT4W's load range C on Method 314 wheels. So far I think I have a little less than 1000 miles on the new tires. I need to have them rebalanced as we initially used balancing beads and may try traditional wheel weights to see if there is any difference. They are absolutely quieter obviously than my old tires. They are also wonderful in the rain and the additional sidewall and lighter load rating definitely improved ride quality. I am running the Dobinson IMS suspension in place of the AHC and it rides slightly stiff, but not unpleasant at all to me at least.
I went from 275/65/20 AT3W's load range E after about 80k miles to 285/75/17 AT4W's load range C on Method 314 wheels. So far I think I have a little less than 1000 miles on the new tires. I need to have them rebalanced as we initially used balancing beads and may try traditional wheel weights to see if there is any difference. They are absolutely quieter obviously than my old tires. They are also wonderful in the rain and the additional sidewall and lighter load rating definitely improved ride quality. I am running the Dobinson IMS suspension in place of the AHC and it rides slightly stiff, but not unpleasant at all to me at least.
Now that it's been a bit, how is everyone liking these still?
Does going SL, C or E make sense for me?
- 285/70/r17 - LX570 stock suspension.
- Offroad rarely.
- Mostly highway long travel cross country with some country / farm type limited maintenance roads. (this is most crucial).
- E&E alluminum skid plate. Otherwise no heavy hardware.
- Will get a Front Runner or Gamiviti roofrack in the next year.
- Will get a TJM or ARB front and rear bumper in the next 2-3 years.
- Towing rare and if so, light home depot trailer type runs or possible a 1-2 time a year sub 3k camper.
- Always rolling with wife, two large dogs (150 and 75lbs) plus luggage or tent camping stuff.
My thought was to go to the SL or C and then if I start to add more weight in a few years / tow more, I can just bite the bullet switch up to an E down the road when that happens.
Does going SL, C or E make sense for me?
- 285/70/r17 - LX570 stock suspension.
- Offroad rarely.
- Mostly highway long travel cross country with some country / farm type limited maintenance roads. (this is most crucial).
- E&E alluminum skid plate. Otherwise no heavy hardware.
- Will get a Front Runner or Gamiviti roofrack in the next year.
- Will get a TJM or ARB front and rear bumper in the next 2-3 years.
- Towing rare and if so, light home depot trailer type runs or possible a 1-2 time a year sub 3k camper.
- Always rolling with wife, two large dogs (150 and 75lbs) plus luggage or tent camping stuff.
My thought was to go to the SL or C and then if I start to add more weight in a few years / tow more, I can just bite the bullet switch up to an E down the road when that happens.
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I have no experience with the Falkens but based on your description I would definitely go with an SL tire. There is nothing in your description requiring a LT-C or LT-E rated tire. SL rated tires will support the full tow rating of the vehicle.
Just put a set of Falkens on my 78 fj40…. Very happy with the purchase
Have had 285/45/22 AT4Ws on my LX for a week now. Love them so far. Been mowing through the snow the last few days
I had the Falken AT4Ws on my ‘13 LX570 for just a few weeks. Size 285/70R18 Load range C. They looked fantastic, but at a full 34” and 69 lbs (yes, even in C) they turned my rig into a pig. I started down the re-gearing rabbit hole but just can’t afford that right now. I ended up swapping them out for BFG TA KO3s in 275/70/18.
I liked the ride and look better on the AT4Ws, but acceleration and towing with the BFGs is less frustrating. Having owned both now, and NEVER having been a fan of BFG KOs in any generation, I must say I am pleasantly surprised by the KO3s and I like them!. Ride is stiff but planted and confident in all conditions. I didn’t take the AT4Ws offroad so can’t compare there. I drove both in loose and packed snow and the BFG is definitely better in snow. I’m a winter tire guy, but the BFGs have been surprisingly competent in the snow and cold.
I liked the ride and look better on the AT4Ws, but acceleration and towing with the BFGs is less frustrating. Having owned both now, and NEVER having been a fan of BFG KOs in any generation, I must say I am pleasantly surprised by the KO3s and I like them!. Ride is stiff but planted and confident in all conditions. I didn’t take the AT4Ws offroad so can’t compare there. I drove both in loose and packed snow and the BFG is definitely better in snow. I’m a winter tire guy, but the BFGs have been surprisingly competent in the snow and cold.
really surprised tbh, I noticed my fuel economy was worse going from stock to AT4W but not really a difference in acceleration.
C-range ATW4s are crazy-heavy. The SL-range ATW4s typically weigh less than a C-range KO3, despite having the same max PSI and same maximum load per tire. The C-range KO3 weighs less than the C-range AT4W. So it seems like a C-range AT4W is not apples-to-apples with a KO3, for whatever reason.
My SL-range AT4Ws have done very well, as the SL-range AT3W tires I had before did too. I'm not sure I would pick AT4Ws in a true C-range given how heavy they are.
My SL-range AT4Ws have done very well, as the SL-range AT3W tires I had before did too. I'm not sure I would pick AT4Ws in a true C-range given how heavy they are.
No experience with the KO3, but if the KO2 is any indication, the KO3 is probably just a lot smaller than the AT4W.
