Hey fellas, I'm posting this for my brother. He just bought an 1987 62 (I think...I'm new to LC's) with the 2F engine. He started home and after a few minutes heard a screeching sound and saw some smoke coming from the engine compartment. He said there's a stuck pulley but he's not sure what it is and I can't find a belt diagram online. Standing in front of the LC the pulley is on the right side underneath the power steering pump. He said that belt is connected to the main pulley, the fan, and whatever the frozen pulley is. He got it to a Sears (not much open on a Friday night) and the dude said it looks like some kind of air pump. Does anyone know what it is? Does anyone have a pic/diagram? Thanks!
Need help asap - frozen pulley
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It is the smog air pump. They freeze commonly. Usually means the power steering pump is leaking. The leaked fluid causes the air pump to seize.
check this post for a "quick" solution:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/285060-smog-pump-froze-up.html
https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/285060-smog-pump-froze-up.html
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Thanks for the quick reply. He's in Hot Springs, AR and needs to get back to Baton Rouge tomorrow or Sunday at the latest. Therefore, gutting it isn't an option. I guess the only option at this point it to replace it?
It is a $400 part. If he does not need to smog it in LA, then he really would be better off gutting it. It is a tensioner, so you have to have it, but it doesn't need to work...
One more note. If the PS pumps is leaking, it will kill the new smog pump in short order...
rover67
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man, i'd vote for devaning it tonight. go grab some tools at walmart and knock it out.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
If you need to get back on the road... buy an alternator belt for... call it a 1978 FJ40
Use this belt to go around the crank pulley, the water pump and the alternator.
You will not have PS, but it will get you home and keep you on the road until you can deal with the seized smog pump.
Mark...
Use this belt to go around the crank pulley, the water pump and the alternator.
You will not have PS, but it will get you home and keep you on the road until you can deal with the seized smog pump.
Mark...
Hey all, this is the stuck brother. Yes, it's a 60. Very straight, for the most part, and I don't regret the purchase at all. Yet. Thanks for all the info so far. Hate to throw that money away on a part I don't need. I brought a bunch of tools with me, but wasn't really planning on having to USE them 
Then rover has to go and tell me to man up and just do it. Don't suppose any of you guys live close??
Then rover has to go and tell me to man up and just do it. Don't suppose any of you guys live close??
You have to take it off to gut it or replace it... just take it off, bring it into the motel room and gut it on the table. Are get the belt Mark talks about and drive it home without power steering. If the steering or the front end (or the alignment) are out of whack at all, it will be very challenging to drive without the power steering...
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
If you just swap the belt the way I mentioned, you do not have to deal with the smog pump right now.
the only thing that happens when you disable the PS by not having a belt going to it is that yu sterring is stiffer. It will not affect anything else and will not steer or handle any differently. running the highway to get home, it will be pretty much a non issue.
Mark...
the only thing that happens when you disable the PS by not having a belt going to it is that yu sterring is stiffer. It will not affect anything else and will not steer or handle any differently. running the highway to get home, it will be pretty much a non issue.
Mark...
X2...follow the above advise.....I've done it several times to get rigs home. I've also driven rigs with manual steering across the country, it's no big deal.
Mark W. is right.......again.
John
John
I agree with Mark W. I recently gutted my non-siezed smog pump...took several hours to get all the little pieces out and it was a huge mess. Put it back together and it still wouldn't spin really freely. Took it back apart....put back together...took it apart...back together....finally got it spinning pretty good...reinstalled, and it made a heck of a racket with the engine running. Wouldn't have wanted to drive it as far as you have to go. Ended up buying an idler pulley from Jim C. Good Luck.
Thanks for all the advice, guys. I got the belt swapped and it worked great like you said; the hardest part was getting the belt. Made it past Shreveport before it started overheating no matter what I did, at which point smittybombs (brother on this thread) had to come tow me the rest of the way home.
Still, for the price I'm quite happy. No rust, very clean inside, lowish miles and pretty stock. And look, it came with some immediate projects, to boot.
Still, for the price I'm quite happy. No rust, very clean inside, lowish miles and pretty stock. And look, it came with some immediate projects, to boot.
I was crazy too... I drove my FJ60 from Houston, TX non stop to Cullman, AL. Stock truck at the time...2 things happend. I drove the long way back home which carried me through Vicksburg, MS...right around Vicksburg I got into some serious rain. I had just stopped and had lunch there and filled up with gas... Got back on teh hwy and truck just died and would not start...I coasted to the side of the hwy on the median (Right side). Pouring down rain...I sit and sit..finally rain clears about 45min later...I get out and look for problems (did not see anything). Try to crank multiple times....I try to crank it one more time before I get on the cell phone for friend to come get me with the trailer...the #$% truck starts right up. I then ran it non stop to Cullman...later on replaced plug wires, dist cap..and some other parts...truck never died again.
2nd issue was that later that night when I arrive in Cullman (not made it home ) ...I hear a lound noise under the hood and pull over ....my a/c belt has shredded, so I cut it off with my pocket knife (at the time I never knew what the problem was) but it turned out to be the A/C idler pulley ...apparently the idler pulley locked up and then just broke and was never to be seen again. I removed the belt and drove the few miles home at that point.
I was lucky I intially planned to trailer the thing home but deicided to roll the dice and drive it. Roughly 70mph all the way home from Houston with a hour wasted on the side of the road due to water issues with the distributor.
2nd issue was that later that night when I arrive in Cullman (not made it home ) ...I hear a lound noise under the hood and pull over ....my a/c belt has shredded, so I cut it off with my pocket knife (at the time I never knew what the problem was) but it turned out to be the A/C idler pulley ...apparently the idler pulley locked up and then just broke and was never to be seen again. I removed the belt and drove the few miles home at that point.
I was lucky I intially planned to trailer the thing home but deicided to roll the dice and drive it. Roughly 70mph all the way home from Houston with a hour wasted on the side of the road due to water issues with the distributor.
