Thats nice jax,real nice,its good to see you found a rig.
Now get a diesel in it at some stage
Now get a diesel in it at some stage
My new 60, phase 1 begins. And some questions...
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Congrats, Jax!
That's a nice looking rig!
Thanks Mot! Ive seen your threads here and there, you get some really nice looking stuff.
Thats nice jax,real nice,its good to see you found a rig.
Now get a diesel in it at some stage
Thanks Dave! And thanks for all your help in the hunt. A diesel is definitely in this rigs future, that is if I have anything to say about it. But due to state, federal and financial regulations, it may take a while.
Thanks for the heads up on Trollhole. I've already contacted Mark at Mark's Off Road, since he is local. Im just waiting for him to get back in town (assuming from Moab).
In the mean time tho, I've started going through and replacing all of the vacuum lines, one by one, end to end. And in that process I've not only found loads of checked and cracked tubing, but also various small plastic vacuum control pieces that are cracked and broken.
So after work today, I headed down to SOR and picked up a few Check Valves, VTV, BVSV, etc, as well as more 3.5mm tubing. I also picked up a chassis/body manual, 2f engine manual and the emission control repair manual; collectively known (I think
) as the FSM.On a side note, some great articles and links for vacuum problems:
Vacuum 101 - Land Cruiser Tech from IH8MUD.com
https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-...-hesitating-acceleration-running-problem.html
http://www.sweetillusions.org/toyota/6.pdf
http://www.sweetillusions.org/toyota/fj60_vacuum_routing.gif
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Got another batch of parts in today from CCOT. Nothing too exciting, mostly usability/basic fix up stuff. Gotta get it running/working right before the fun stuff starts;
Rear hatch springs
Hood bump stops
Clutch/Brake/Gas pedal pads
And a set of their 60/62 charcoal mirrors. However, they sent me two rights instead of a left and a right. Ill post up how well CCOT makes this right. Ill also post up some thoughts on build quality once I get them installed.
Also did a little more work on the vacuum system, replacing valves and hoses. Quite a few more left to do.
Rear hatch springs
Hood bump stops
Clutch/Brake/Gas pedal pads
And a set of their 60/62 charcoal mirrors. However, they sent me two rights instead of a left and a right. Ill post up how well CCOT makes this right. Ill also post up some thoughts on build quality once I get them installed.
Also did a little more work on the vacuum system, replacing valves and hoses. Quite a few more left to do.
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He can't use the Trollhole carb - no smog provisions. Same for the dizzy.
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Update
Yep... there's been some work.
First, CCOT came through and replaced the mis-marked LH mirror with no issues. Shipped out a new one along with a return shipping tag for the old one. The mirrors themselves are not bad for the price, overall fit and finnish is pretty good. Although the right mirror is simply flat glass, not convex, which would have been a nicer product. IMHO, they should state this on the product page of their site.
On to other work. I've replaced all of the old vacuum lines, check valves, etc. Many of which were checked, cracked and some were just plain broken. And although starts are improved, it's still not where it should be. So I contacted Mark's Off Road and scheduled an appointment for a carb rebuild. Sunday I pulled the carb off and on Monday I headed over to Mark's after work.
Mark was great and was kind enough to do an initial autopsy on the carb while I was there. It was in bad shape. Totally gummed up, clogged, bent, tweaked and generally FUBAR. But savable. Should be ready on Friday. I can't wait to get it back on the truck and see how it runs.
In the mean time I've not been idle on the truck. I've pulled the dash apart; Pulled the crash pad off, pulled the glove box out, pulled the gauge cluster out and the center pod out. I've done this for three reasons; To prep the crash pad for a new cap (the original is in pretty bad shape), to clean up the wiring under the dash (looks like several half-assed stereo installs, but not too bad otherwise) and to generally give it a really good cleaning. The 28 years of dust, pet hair and ash has got to go!
So, hopefully this weekend I can get the carb back on, the dash cleaned and back together and see how well this thing runs then. I'll also pull a vacuum test as well as a compression test this weekend to make sure there are no more basic hidden issues.
Upcoming projects:
I've ordered a carpet kit, rear retractable seat belts and a tuffy box (secure storage and CUP HOLDERS DAMN IT!). Once they've arrived I want to start pulling the interior out and start getting the comfort and safety levels up. A bedliner layer and a dynomat layer are definitely in order before the new carpet goes in. The big question I have is on seats.
Recover the existing frames? Or go aftermarket? If I do recover the originals, should I do the SOR complete vinyl kit along with their front foam? Should I go with the CCOT cloth kit combined with the SOR front foam? Or the CCOT vinyl kit? What about the complete the METRIC TLC all leather kit? And, has anyone seen a rebuild kit for the rear seat? Something that improves support and comfort for the wee ones in the back? Or is it really just a cover over the old springs? Obviously there is a big price difference in these plans, but in my opinion comfort, support and usability are high priorities.
Maybe I should just put aftermarket fronts in, get a local interior shop to do the rear seat and door panels and call it good. Obviously the seats require a lot more thought. Any input you guys have is welcome.
I'll also be upgrading some of the wiring under the hood as well as some general clean up. New battery cables are definitely in order, as is new wiring harness for the headlights.
Im hoping that, once all this is complete, basic drivability and reliability will be taken care of. If not, I will continue to focus on these areas. But if so, this is where the fun will really start.
More to come...
Yep... there's been some work.
First, CCOT came through and replaced the mis-marked LH mirror with no issues. Shipped out a new one along with a return shipping tag for the old one. The mirrors themselves are not bad for the price, overall fit and finnish is pretty good. Although the right mirror is simply flat glass, not convex, which would have been a nicer product. IMHO, they should state this on the product page of their site.
On to other work. I've replaced all of the old vacuum lines, check valves, etc. Many of which were checked, cracked and some were just plain broken. And although starts are improved, it's still not where it should be. So I contacted Mark's Off Road and scheduled an appointment for a carb rebuild. Sunday I pulled the carb off and on Monday I headed over to Mark's after work.
Mark was great and was kind enough to do an initial autopsy on the carb while I was there. It was in bad shape. Totally gummed up, clogged, bent, tweaked and generally FUBAR. But savable. Should be ready on Friday. I can't wait to get it back on the truck and see how it runs.
In the mean time I've not been idle on the truck. I've pulled the dash apart; Pulled the crash pad off, pulled the glove box out, pulled the gauge cluster out and the center pod out. I've done this for three reasons; To prep the crash pad for a new cap (the original is in pretty bad shape), to clean up the wiring under the dash (looks like several half-assed stereo installs, but not too bad otherwise) and to generally give it a really good cleaning. The 28 years of dust, pet hair and ash has got to go!
So, hopefully this weekend I can get the carb back on, the dash cleaned and back together and see how well this thing runs then. I'll also pull a vacuum test as well as a compression test this weekend to make sure there are no more basic hidden issues.
Upcoming projects:
I've ordered a carpet kit, rear retractable seat belts and a tuffy box (secure storage and CUP HOLDERS DAMN IT!). Once they've arrived I want to start pulling the interior out and start getting the comfort and safety levels up. A bedliner layer and a dynomat layer are definitely in order before the new carpet goes in. The big question I have is on seats.
Recover the existing frames? Or go aftermarket? If I do recover the originals, should I do the SOR complete vinyl kit along with their front foam? Should I go with the CCOT cloth kit combined with the SOR front foam? Or the CCOT vinyl kit? What about the complete the METRIC TLC all leather kit? And, has anyone seen a rebuild kit for the rear seat? Something that improves support and comfort for the wee ones in the back? Or is it really just a cover over the old springs? Obviously there is a big price difference in these plans, but in my opinion comfort, support and usability are high priorities.
Maybe I should just put aftermarket fronts in, get a local interior shop to do the rear seat and door panels and call it good. Obviously the seats require a lot more thought. Any input you guys have is welcome.
I'll also be upgrading some of the wiring under the hood as well as some general clean up. New battery cables are definitely in order, as is new wiring harness for the headlights.
Im hoping that, once all this is complete, basic drivability and reliability will be taken care of. If not, I will continue to focus on these areas. But if so, this is where the fun will really start.
More to come...
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Lots more work...
So, the last month has seen a lot of work.
The carb is back on, and working great!! Mark's rebuild (with performance enhancements) is a great upgrade. Now that I've done a lot of other tuning, upgrades and improvements on the vehicle, I really need to get it over to Mark for some final carb tweaking (doing an accurate lean idle drop is a PITA).
In addition to getting the carb back on and replacing all of the vacuum lines, I went back through with the emissions manual in hand and verified that every line was connected correctly. Man, I don't know who put this thing back together, but so many vacuum lines were just laid out and connected incorrectly! I made the assumption that, because most of the lines that I replaced were marked, they must be in the right place... Right? Wrong! Mind you, this is a time consuming and tedious task, but the results are well worth it. Functionality and drivability are dramatically improved.
Unfortunately, at this point I was still not satisfied. I have high expectations for the performance of this vehicle, both in terms of drivability, power and milage. Im still experiencing minor hesitations and stutters. Nothing extreme, and it was totally drivable. But I want this thing to drive as good as it can. So now that the carb and vacuum lines were of known quality and I've replaced all the filters, I decided everything else has to be suspect.
So this weekend was to be all electrical. I went through and replaced the ignition coil, ignition wires, distributor cap/rotor and spark plugs as well as all the battery cables with FOURRUNNER's battery cable kit (more on those cables later). So the only thing left in the ignition system that has not been replaced is the ignitor, and everything was replaced with OEM parts. I also went through and validated all of the grounds and replaced any wires of questionable quality or that had any excessive corrosion on it.
Well, I am happy to report that the truck is driving great. No more misses. Great power (for a 2F). Mark's carb really shines when getting up to speed on the freeway. When its cold, it fires up on the first try every time. I'll be driving it to work most of this week so we will see how the mileage is, at least in the city over the next couple days. This is not to say that its running perfect as there are still a couple things that need attention; warm starts still suffer (HIC valve?) and under light throttle loads the tuck bucks. If I can get these last couple issues resolved, I will be pretty satisfied with the drivability of this truck.
What else has been done;
Well, I got the dash all taken care of. I glued a new veneer (from SOR) onto the crash pad. I also found a duplicolor interior rattle can at pepboys that is a very close match for the metal portions of the dash, as well as a metallic charcoal that was a dead ringer for the instrument cluster surround. The dash is looking great!
As part of my all electrical weekend, I also put in SLCFJ62's headlight wire harness kit. What an improvement, but more on this later.
For now, how about some pictures...
So, the last month has seen a lot of work.
The carb is back on, and working great!! Mark's rebuild (with performance enhancements) is a great upgrade. Now that I've done a lot of other tuning, upgrades and improvements on the vehicle, I really need to get it over to Mark for some final carb tweaking (doing an accurate lean idle drop is a PITA).
In addition to getting the carb back on and replacing all of the vacuum lines, I went back through with the emissions manual in hand and verified that every line was connected correctly. Man, I don't know who put this thing back together, but so many vacuum lines were just laid out and connected incorrectly! I made the assumption that, because most of the lines that I replaced were marked, they must be in the right place... Right? Wrong! Mind you, this is a time consuming and tedious task, but the results are well worth it. Functionality and drivability are dramatically improved.
Unfortunately, at this point I was still not satisfied. I have high expectations for the performance of this vehicle, both in terms of drivability, power and milage. Im still experiencing minor hesitations and stutters. Nothing extreme, and it was totally drivable. But I want this thing to drive as good as it can. So now that the carb and vacuum lines were of known quality and I've replaced all the filters, I decided everything else has to be suspect.
So this weekend was to be all electrical. I went through and replaced the ignition coil, ignition wires, distributor cap/rotor and spark plugs as well as all the battery cables with FOURRUNNER's battery cable kit (more on those cables later). So the only thing left in the ignition system that has not been replaced is the ignitor, and everything was replaced with OEM parts. I also went through and validated all of the grounds and replaced any wires of questionable quality or that had any excessive corrosion on it.
Well, I am happy to report that the truck is driving great. No more misses. Great power (for a 2F). Mark's carb really shines when getting up to speed on the freeway. When its cold, it fires up on the first try every time. I'll be driving it to work most of this week so we will see how the mileage is, at least in the city over the next couple days. This is not to say that its running perfect as there are still a couple things that need attention; warm starts still suffer (HIC valve?) and under light throttle loads the tuck bucks. If I can get these last couple issues resolved, I will be pretty satisfied with the drivability of this truck.
What else has been done;
Well, I got the dash all taken care of. I glued a new veneer (from SOR) onto the crash pad. I also found a duplicolor interior rattle can at pepboys that is a very close match for the metal portions of the dash, as well as a metallic charcoal that was a dead ringer for the instrument cluster surround. The dash is looking great!
As part of my all electrical weekend, I also put in SLCFJ62's headlight wire harness kit. What an improvement, but more on this later.
For now, how about some pictures...
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The Dash...
I went through and cleaned up the dash board. I replaced the dash cap, painted the metal portion of the dash, cleaned out 28 years of dust and pet hair, removed the wiring from several aborted stereo installs, and cleaned up and painted the instrument cluster.
Take a look.
The inner dash;
Lots of dust;
Holes in the dash Pt 1
More holes, Pt 2
Instrument cluster, before
The tach, notice the busted and repaired pointer
The results. Im pretty happy with it;
Passenger side
Drivers side
Instruments
I went through and cleaned up the dash board. I replaced the dash cap, painted the metal portion of the dash, cleaned out 28 years of dust and pet hair, removed the wiring from several aborted stereo installs, and cleaned up and painted the instrument cluster.
Take a look.
The inner dash;
Lots of dust;
Holes in the dash Pt 1
More holes, Pt 2
Instrument cluster, before
The tach, notice the busted and repaired pointer
The results. Im pretty happy with it;
Passenger side
Drivers side
Instruments
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Battery Cables
I picked up a set of battery cables from FourRunner.
What can I say? The kit is really well put together. Super high quality cables and ends, and the workmanship is perfect. In addition, FourRunner's instructions are exact, thoughtful and very well detailed. And the ordering process was great, simple and hassle free. I ordered the set on Monday, and they were delivered and waiting for me on Friday when I got home from work. Perfect! Next I ned to order one of his bumper kits!
Here are a couple pics. Not so much of the process, as much as the result. I mean, after all it is just replacing battery cables.
Main cable to starter
Negative terminal to body ground
Battery terminal detail
Engine to Firewall ground strap
While I'm here, anyone know what this connector is for?
I picked up a set of battery cables from FourRunner.
What can I say? The kit is really well put together. Super high quality cables and ends, and the workmanship is perfect. In addition, FourRunner's instructions are exact, thoughtful and very well detailed. And the ordering process was great, simple and hassle free. I ordered the set on Monday, and they were delivered and waiting for me on Friday when I got home from work. Perfect! Next I ned to order one of his bumper kits!
Here are a couple pics. Not so much of the process, as much as the result. I mean, after all it is just replacing battery cables.
Main cable to starter
Negative terminal to body ground
Battery terminal detail
Engine to Firewall ground strap
While I'm here, anyone know what this connector is for?
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Headlight Harness Kit
My final project for the weekend was to install SLCFJ62's headlight wire harness kit. Erik was a super solid guy to deal with. I ordered his kit through the WagonGear Guild and he contacted me within a few hours to make sure that I had everything I needed. I ordered on Monday, and the kit was waiting for me when I got home from work on Friday.
When I opened the kit I was pleasantly surprised by the quality and fit and finish. The Bussman relay box is f course top of the line, but all the wires that are used are heavy duty and I couldnt find any flaws.
Since I already had my battery out to do the above battery cable kit, this was a very simple install. Erik (SLCFJ62) has done a very good job of thinking through all of the basics and make this a very plug and play kit.
Once you decide how/where you are going to mount the relay box (it's designed to go on your pass side fender well), the hard part is pretty much done.
Like I said, my battery was already out for another job, so I mounted the box to an existing and unused threaded hole in the fender and strung the cables where I wanted them.
I then disconnected both of the existing headlight plugs, and connected the female plugs from the kit to the headlights. Then plug the male connector from the kit into the pass side harness plug that used to plug into the headlight (this now controls your relay) and wrapped it with electrical tape to keep it from coming apart and protect it from corrosion. I also pushed some silicone into the old drivers side plug. Then its just a matter of hooking the battery back up, connecting the black line from the relay box to the neg terminal on the battery, and the red line to the pos. Thats it. Done. Complete. And, what an improvement! Even with my sealed beams still in the truck its a marked improvement over the stock harness. I had ordered some RoundEyes at the same time I ordered this kit, but they are on backorder for 7 weeks! I may cancel that order and go with a different brand. Im not one for patience.
Here are some pics!
Relay box mounted
Light connectors, connected
Wire routing
My final project for the weekend was to install SLCFJ62's headlight wire harness kit. Erik was a super solid guy to deal with. I ordered his kit through the WagonGear Guild and he contacted me within a few hours to make sure that I had everything I needed. I ordered on Monday, and the kit was waiting for me when I got home from work on Friday.
When I opened the kit I was pleasantly surprised by the quality and fit and finish. The Bussman relay box is f course top of the line, but all the wires that are used are heavy duty and I couldnt find any flaws.
Since I already had my battery out to do the above battery cable kit, this was a very simple install. Erik (SLCFJ62) has done a very good job of thinking through all of the basics and make this a very plug and play kit.
Once you decide how/where you are going to mount the relay box (it's designed to go on your pass side fender well), the hard part is pretty much done.
Like I said, my battery was already out for another job, so I mounted the box to an existing and unused threaded hole in the fender and strung the cables where I wanted them.
I then disconnected both of the existing headlight plugs, and connected the female plugs from the kit to the headlights. Then plug the male connector from the kit into the pass side harness plug that used to plug into the headlight (this now controls your relay) and wrapped it with electrical tape to keep it from coming apart and protect it from corrosion. I also pushed some silicone into the old drivers side plug. Then its just a matter of hooking the battery back up, connecting the black line from the relay box to the neg terminal on the battery, and the red line to the pos. Thats it. Done. Complete. And, what an improvement! Even with my sealed beams still in the truck its a marked improvement over the stock harness. I had ordered some RoundEyes at the same time I ordered this kit, but they are on backorder for 7 weeks! I may cancel that order and go with a different brand. Im not one for patience.
Here are some pics!
Relay box mounted
Light connectors, connected
Wire routing
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I saw that headlight harness kit at Kevin's place a while back and it looked really nice. I want to pick one up!
Good work on your truck! Looking forward to see more progress
Good work on your truck! Looking forward to see more progress
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Nice start... Funny I have rootbeer and want white 
Awesome Jax!
Even funnier...I just want A 60!!
Even funnier...I just want A 60!!
I love how you say "I headed down to SOR." Sooooooo jealous
I have placed a lot of orders from there. $13 dollar shipping over time adds up a lot. But they have the most stuff hands down.
Nice work so far. Keep up the progress!
I have placed a lot of orders from there. $13 dollar shipping over time adds up a lot. But they have the most stuff hands down.
Nice work so far. Keep up the progress!
So does a couple gals of gas to get there and back...
It all evens out.
Jax, Mark's carbs are great, aren't they ?
Whatever voodoo he does really gives it more top end...
JaxonM--great job on the dash cover and instrument cover paint: appreciate the tips as I'm about a month or so away from some of the same work!
LCDiesel60
Oregon
LCDiesel60
Oregon
Nice rig! For what it's worth on your seats you may want to talk with some local apholstery places. You have a ton of them in Socal. Most of those places will also get you new foam and the material installed for about what you pay for the covers. Just a thought. Also I'm glad you got your misses figured out I was going to suggest your sparks. Simple as it is, mine was doing the same thing and I had one spark starting to go bad that would act that way. Can't wait to see the rest of your progress.
