I towed the 40 around with no issues. Only bad part was when one morning I forgot it was back there and then realized I was doing 80 
Who says the 2f can't cook on the hwy
Who says the 2f can't cook on the hwy 
My dad doesn't think the 80 can haul... (1 Viewer)
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one issue though is that the 80 may indeed be up to the task of towing 3,600 lbs easily but you couldn't legally tow a 3,600 lbs trailer without brakes in many states IIRC. Leaving Big Brother out of the equation for a minute, there is indeed therefore some likelihood that this may not be entirely safe. I assume that you wont' be rigging some highfalutin inertial braking system, so are you sure you can brake safely in an emergency?
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You know, a rigged highfalutin inertial braking system had crossed my mind.......
Just seemed a little to highfalutin.
I am positive it will stop as well as it ever has.
If taco and bronco fr disc/rr drum can stop it well enough than the bigger 4whl disks should have no problem.
Junk- hit 90 flat towin it on a flat straight with my buddies tahoe. (5.7L Vortec). Still didn't know it was back there, but
His truck went to Aamco the next day. :whoops:
I've been flat towing it for 2 years, never with a problem. The only difference here is the 80, and I just wanted to get third opinions to prove to him that I was not the only one overconfident in my Land Cruiser's abilities.
Just seemed a little to highfalutin.
I am positive it will stop as well as it ever has.
If taco and bronco fr disc/rr drum can stop it well enough than the bigger 4whl disks should have no problem.
Junk- hit 90 flat towin it on a flat straight with my buddies tahoe. (5.7L Vortec). Still didn't know it was back there, but
His truck went to Aamco the next day. :whoops:
I've been flat towing it for 2 years, never with a problem. The only difference here is the 80, and I just wanted to get third opinions to prove to him that I was not the only one overconfident in my Land Cruiser's abilities.
Foolish Bailey. You dad will have your ass if you blow up the 80. I am sure an 80 in general is up to the task. I am not sure your 80 is up to the task. Radiator and an unknown service history would lead me to not do this until you are much more familiar with that truck.
Have your dad drive the 80 and you drive the 40.
What the hell do you mean there are few hills? It is up hill all the way and the last 30 miles or so are steep, winding hills!
Have your dad drive the 80 and you drive the 40.
What the hell do you mean there are few hills? It is up hill all the way and the last 30 miles or so are steep, winding hills!
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What do you mean unknown service history? The nice lady down in Leesburg told me she had the neighbor change her oil every couple of years.
Hwy 5 is the only steep hills I remember.
If the weather is ok I will probably just get out and drive the 40 after Blue Ridge anyway.
My dad is not driving the 80. I don't trust him, and he will not be there the whole weekend.
If you saw my 40 engine bay right now I think you'd be telling me to take my chances with the 80 .
I already told you, you are more than welcome to drive the 40 up, since your super bling shackles are keeping you from driving your 62.
Hwy 5 is the only steep hills I remember.
If the weather is ok I will probably just get out and drive the 40 after Blue Ridge anyway.
My dad is not driving the 80. I don't trust him, and he will not be there the whole weekend.
If you saw my 40 engine bay right now I think you'd be telling me to take my chances with the 80
.I already told you, you are more than welcome to drive the 40 up, since your super bling shackles are keeping you from driving your 62.
This is a great thread.
I wondered myself, I use to tow with a 3/4 ton Chevy , I think the 40 out weighed it, Now with the 80 It atleast out weighs the 40, I may have to give it a shot, I need a new set of tow lights though.
Thanks for all the info
I wondered myself, I use to tow with a 3/4 ton Chevy , I think the 40 out weighed it, Now with the 80 It atleast out weighs the 40, I may have to give it a shot, I need a new set of tow lights though.
Thanks for all the info
40 towed by a taco..
i also towed a 40 with a taco once. ONCE!
the 40 weighed to much for the light rearend pickup. granted this was the first time i had ever flat towed so imagine my surprise when it nearly jack-knifed while i slowed down around a corner. the taco had enough engine but not enough weight and brakes.
i plan on haulin the 40 w/ my 96' 80 next month so this has been a good thread to read
thanks
i also towed a 40 with a taco once. ONCE!
the 40 weighed to much for the light rearend pickup. granted this was the first time i had ever flat towed so imagine my surprise when it nearly jack-knifed while i slowed down around a corner. the taco had enough engine but not enough weight and brakes.
i plan on haulin the 40 w/ my 96' 80 next month so this has been a good thread to read
thanks
hey bail of hay
hey man. its josh. i think you can . haha. from at least what you told me about them. so you can tell your dad that you can. also can you use the shackles on the arb to tow? cause someone told me you cant or it will bend. the guys at the shop took off my tow hooks and kept em. also i heard that you need to get some thing for the arb bar so that it works with air bags.
thanks for the input!
-josh the man that gets stuck in GA
hey man. its josh. i think you can . haha. from at least what you told me about them. so you can tell your dad that you can. also can you use the shackles on the arb to tow? cause someone told me you cant or it will bend. the guys at the shop took off my tow hooks and kept em. also i heard that you need to get some thing for the arb bar so that it works with air bags.
thanks for the input!
-josh the man that gets stuck in GA
oh and when are you goin wheelin bailey. i want to go! call me anytime you go no matter what. k?
Go for it! I pull mine with ease. It even stops when I want it to.
As for pulling with a Tacoma, I throw my quad in back for stability. And keep on good terms with God.
As for pulling with a Tacoma, I throw my quad in back for stability. And keep on good terms with God.
Gumby said:
So what's the deal with keeping the OD off? If we're cruisin' down the hyway at 70mph and OD off doesn't that crank the rpm's a bit high. Granted I don't do much towing, but I'm thinking of getting a popup soon so I'm curious
yeah you should turn the od on. its for that exact reason towing.
i dont know what he is talking about
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Actually no, Josh, the O/D is not for towing.
O/D is to lower RPM's while crusing down the highway... without a trailer.
O/d increases strain on the transmission and engine, but that tradeoff is fine when just driving down the highway, when you add a trailer into the equation it tips the scales in favor of running in 3rd gear with higher RPMs. You should just drive a little slower as well. Limiting the transmission to 3rd also prevents excessive downshifting.
The weight of what you are towing matters, so you may or may not need to keep it out of O/D with a popup, I'm not familiar with how much they weigh.
Example: When towing my ATV (500lb) on a ~500lb trailer, I use O/D, there is not much downshifting, and that is not that much weight. If in the hills, I may limit to 3rd, depends.
When flat towing my 40, which weighs a solid 3600lbs, the truck should never be in O/D. A friend and I overheated and killed his transmission doing this. The tranny already had some problems, but towing 3600lbs at 90 MPH in O/D was the straw to break its back.
O/D is to lower RPM's while crusing down the highway... without a trailer.
O/d increases strain on the transmission and engine, but that tradeoff is fine when just driving down the highway, when you add a trailer into the equation it tips the scales in favor of running in 3rd gear with higher RPMs. You should just drive a little slower as well. Limiting the transmission to 3rd also prevents excessive downshifting.
The weight of what you are towing matters, so you may or may not need to keep it out of O/D with a popup, I'm not familiar with how much they weigh.
Example: When towing my ATV (500lb) on a ~500lb trailer, I use O/D, there is not much downshifting, and that is not that much weight. If in the hills, I may limit to 3rd, depends.
When flat towing my 40, which weighs a solid 3600lbs, the truck should never be in O/D. A friend and I overheated and killed his transmission doing this. The tranny already had some problems, but towing 3600lbs at 90 MPH in O/D was the straw to break its back.
Good point CruisinGA, I would think the weight off the trailer matters. I think I'm looking at something around 2000lbs. Now I don't mean to nitpick but it strikes me that if I'm toolin' down the hyway at 75 0r 80 mph in 3rd gear wouldn't the higher rpms create heat and strain on the engine? Also, when towing in my Tbird (OD is fifth gear) as long as I'm going faster than 60mph it has no problem staying in overdrive, but if go below I can feel it slip and I disengage the OD.
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The solution here is not not tool down the highway at 80 mph .
In my mind, if you are towing something heavy enough in that environment to need to stay in 3rd, you should not be towing that fast.
However, if I was towing a medium weight trailer in a flat environment, I would not be adverse to using O/D on the flats. We've never disabled O/D in the '96 Bronco when towing my 40, and never had a problem. But it also has 1.3 liters on the 80.
Just be careful, use caution, and get a feel for when you are straining things. Also, change you ATF regurlarly.
.In my mind, if you are towing something heavy enough in that environment to need to stay in 3rd, you should not be towing that fast.
However, if I was towing a medium weight trailer in a flat environment, I would not be adverse to using O/D on the flats. We've never disabled O/D in the '96 Bronco when towing my 40, and never had a problem. But it also has 1.3 liters on the 80.
Just be careful, use caution, and get a feel for when you are straining things. Also, change you ATF regurlarly.
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Riley said:
Suburbans have crappy transmissions to begin with. The tranny of an 80 is ten times better than that of a suburban. I have a friend who has a 98 Suburban and has already gone through 3 transmissions. 80 will tow your 40 fine.
yeah bailey good point. thanks for shutting me down man. haha
but to my defense it sounds logical to use od because you are drivin an automatic and if it slips into the overdrive gear you wont be reving your rpms as much than without it so i say use it cause it is helpful. 80's arent like your 40 bailey. haha
Have you ever flat-towed anything before?
The 80 will handle the weight ok. Flat-towing can be spooky and remember stopping can get a bit odd at times. I flat-towed a crew-cab 2wd dodge truck behind a 1 ton 4WD Dodge truck 650 miles a few years ago. My Cummins handled the weight just fine but it got to be a handful to control over about 55mph. In addition the towed vehicle tried to "push" the back end of the towing vehicle while decelerating and turning. That was a spooky feeling.
I suggest you practice a bit first before you go out for real.
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The 80 will handle the weight ok. Flat-towing can be spooky and remember stopping can get a bit odd at times. I flat-towed a crew-cab 2wd dodge truck behind a 1 ton 4WD Dodge truck 650 miles a few years ago. My Cummins handled the weight just fine but it got to be a handful to control over about 55mph. In addition the towed vehicle tried to "push" the back end of the towing vehicle while decelerating and turning. That was a spooky feeling.
I suggest you practice a bit first before you go out for real.
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