MY 2021 Wheel spacers - anyone tried them?

[DRANGED]

Here are a couple things copied from the email I got confirming my order... (some of you may know these tidbits, but they were new and impressionable to me)

"Your parts are backed by a Lifetime Warranty, and we build each order specifically for you and your vehicle. Your invoice number is engraved on each part, and we keep very accurate details of every order. So, if you break or cross thread a stud 1 year, 5 years, 10 years from now, we know exactly how to fix or replace it, FREE OF CHARGE!​

"Once an order is built, engraved, anodized, studded, properly wrapped and boxed, our shipping dept will email you a tracking number. We typically ship with FedEx or USPS."


"BORA (Bulletproof Off Road Adapters)"

 

[21200]

When I called them about it I left a voicemail with the owner, but got a call back from someone else. The person I spoke to first said "I verified your order was built to the proper dimensions, so everything should fit perfectly. We are going to need some pictures or a video because we know they were built to spec and should fit"

I did not verify the order number engraving but they were a 3/4" spacer so it appeared they should fit fine.

When the owner called me back he had a different take on it and said what am I supposed to do if I cant put my calipers on them and verify them? So he had me ship them back. I believe they will make it right, and they are very proud of what they do and how they do it.

The situation is interesting and now I am looking forward to the outcome more than I am looking forward to actually having the spacers installed. I would love to not have to trim my studs, and according to some other threads here I may not have to do that...

 

[montegofd3s]

When I called them about it I left a voicemail with the owner, but got a call back from someone else. The person I spoke to first said "I verified your order was built to the proper dimensions, so everything should fit perfectly. We are going to need some pictures or a video because we know they were built to spec and should fit"

I did not verify the order number engraving but they were a 3/4" spacer so it appeared they should fit fine.

When the owner called me back he had a different take on it and said what am I supposed to do if I cant put my calipers on them and verify them? So he had me ship them back. I believe they will make it right, and they are very proud of what they do and how they do it.

The situation is interesting and now I am looking forward to the outcome more than I am looking forward to actually having the spacers installed. I would love to not have to trim my studs, and according to some other threads here I may not have to do that...

Hey, did you ever find out if you have to trim your studs?

 

[21200]

Hey, did you ever find out if you have to trim your studs?

I did not... sent them a follow up email and left a VM on 9/30. Havent heard back...

 

[DRANGED]

That thread mentions the rear studs being longer than the fronts. That could explain the confusion between my '21 and his '18 being different.

Still havent heard back from Bora.

I did not... sent them a follow up email and left a VM on 9/30. Havent heard back...

(caveat: not a 200 owner, but the BORA tag got me here, and informed on some things, which helped me move forward on the purchase and install)

the loose fit on hub is the crux. did ALL fit loosely, or was it just the rear hubs with a loose fit?

Again, my experience differs as I'm in a 120 not a 200, BUT my front studs were also exposed past the spacer by 3mm and rears 8mm past the surface of the spacer. My stock GX rims have large pockets which swallowed the studs and full contact of inner rim to outer spacer was ensured...

I noted the inner bore of the rim is flared, so the hub-centrism from spacer to rim is not at nice as spacer onto hub... there's still some fiddling to get the nuts centered in the rim holes as the rim doesn't nest onto the spacer's hub flange as well...

It makes me wonder if the spacers were flared like the rims are . . . ?

I'm just kind of thinking out loud hoping my recent experience may be of some help.
I'm sure they'll cover you and make it right. it is odd the sloppiness of the spacer on the hub though. . .

 

[21200]

well, they showed up in the mail today. No note with them, never got a call back (left a message and sent an email two weeks ago). They appear to be the same spacers, have some light scratches that I assume were from the original install. Left another VM asking for a call back and an explanation of what happened if something was wrong, or confirmation if everything checked out on their end.

Ill try to get out the jack this weekend and mount one and see how it goes. I don't have the tools to shorten the studs if that is necessary for mounting (still no clear answer on this, have seen reports of both on here).

*** UPDATE
Got a call back from BORA. They found that two of other four spacers were oversized (hub fit) and undersized (wheel fit), and the other two were built to spec. They replaced the incorrect spacers. I plan to verify this this weekend that they all fit. The original installing shop did not try to install all four, only one, and when it did not fit they assumed the spacers were junk and put them back in the box.

 

[DRANGED]

Cool, that seems as was suspected. Do you have cavities or indentations in the back side of your rims? It seems sixes whether or not they're in the right space to capture protruding studs or if the studs don't quite fit in those holes. Did you share pictures of your rims earlier in the thread, I forget but we'll revisit now.

 

[21200]

As an update to this... the 3/4" spacers do fit on my 2021 base model with stock wheels and no modification to the studs. It is close, probably 2mm clearance inside the wheel pocket for the studs.

I installed them yesterday with no issue. The fit to the wheel is tight enough that I originally thought the studs were contacting the wheel. However, calipers proved there was room, and slowly snugging the lugs in a star pattern got the wheel to seat perfectly on the spacer. No vibrations while driving and the outside of the tire is perfectly flush with the fenders.

There is a slight rub at full lock on the little front mud flap (air dam?) inside the wheel well. 275/70r18 michelin mtx/at2 tires. I didnt expect that, but it will be easy to fix by removing that small rubber piece or heating it up and pushing it back.

 

[CharlieS]

As an update to this... the 3/4" spacers do fit on my 2021 base model with stock wheels and no modification to the studs. It is close, probably 2mm clearance inside the wheel pocket for the studs.

I installed them yesterday with no issue. The fit to the wheel is tight enough that I originally thought the studs were contacting the wheel. However, calipers proved there was room, and slowly snugging the lugs in a star pattern got the wheel to seat perfectly on the spacer. No vibrations while driving and the outside of the tire is perfectly flush with the fenders.

There is a slight rub at full lock on the little front mud flap (air dam?) inside the wheel well. 275/70r18 michelin mtx/at2 tires. I didnt expect that, but it will be easy to fix by removing that small rubber piece or heating it up and pushing it back.

I run LT275/70R18 BFG AT KO2 and had to remove that flap, as well as use a heat gun to massage both the front and rear inner fender plastic to remove full lock contact. I may have experienced it in more spots because I have a lift?

 

[21200]

I run LT275/70R18 BFG AT KO2 and had to remove that flap, as well as use a heat gun to massage both the front and rear inner fender plastic to remove full lock contact. I may have experienced it in more spots because I have a lift?

I have a 2" lift as well, and do not appear to have any rubbing on the rear of the fender well. The exactly tire dimensions are probably different and the lugs are significantly less aggressive on the michelins.

 

[rubi]

Hi, So If I read this post correctly the .75 spacers do not require the factory bolts to be trimmed? (2016 LC). Thanks.

 

[UnFadeable21]

I’m putting some 6x139 rims on the LC which has a 5x150 bolt pattern. I don’t want to trim my studs so motortech who makes the Bora spacers suggested I go with the 2 inch adapters. They are two pieces adapters.

I wanted to stay with the 1.5 adapters but he said I would have to trim the studs as the outer piece is 15 mm which is .59 inches. The inner piece would be .91 and wouldn’t clear oem studs.

How long are the original studs? Wherever I looked at online it says they are m14 thickness by 1.5 long

Gonna order them later this week.

 

[LTSR]

Hi, So If I read this post correctly the .75 spacers do not require the factory bolts to be trimmed? (2016 LC). Thanks.

correct

 

[kcobourn]

Added 1" spacers by BORA & they were plug / play. So far they're not impacting ride quality

 

[21200]

I’m putting some 6x139 rims on the LC which has a 5x150 bolt pattern. I don’t want to trim my studs so motortech who makes the Bora spacers suggested I go with the 2 inch adapters. They are two pieces adapters.

I wanted to stay with the 1.5 adapters but he said I would have to trim the studs as the outer piece is 15 mm which is .59 inches. The inner piece would be .91 and wouldn’t clear oem studs.

How long are the original studs? Wherever I looked at online it says they are m14 thickness by 1.5 long

Gonna order them later this week.

I cant imagine why you would need to trim the studs on a 1.5" spacer. You do not need to. I have .75" spacers on mine and they did not require trimming with factory (base) wheels.

The studs will be completely covered/recessed inside the spacer. 2" is huge... I would not use a 2" spacer.

 

[lx200inAR]

I’m putting some 6x139 rims on the LC which has a 5x150 bolt pattern. I don’t want to trim my studs so motortech who makes the Bora spacers suggested I go with the 2 inch adapters. They are two pieces adapters.

I wanted to stay with the 1.5 adapters but he said I would have to trim the studs as the outer piece is 15 mm which is .59 inches. The inner piece would be .91 and wouldn’t clear oem studs.

How long are the original studs? Wherever I looked at online it says they are m14 thickness by 1.5 long

Gonna order them later this week.

I cant imagine why you would need to trim the studs on a 1.5" spacer. You do not need to. I have .75" spacers on mine and they did not require trimming with factory (base) wheels.

The studs will be completely covered/recessed inside the spacer. 2" is huge... I would not use a 2" spacer.

This is a different beast than what most are usually talking about with spacers. Haven't really seen much discussion around here about adapting the 5lug to a 6lug pattern. So you may be the first to do that.

The 1.5 in M14x1.5 is not the length of the screw/bolt. It's the thread pitch (or thread width) which in this case is 1.5mm.

Here's a post with factory stud dimensions.

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This thread has some measurements of installed studs.

Aftermarket wheels with tapered/conical lug nuts - too little thread engagement?

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[UnFadeable21]

I cant imagine why you would need to trim the studs on a 1.5" spacer. You do not need to. I have .75" spacers on mine and they did not require trimming with factory (base) wheels.

The studs will be completely covered/recessed inside the spacer. 2" is huge... I would not use a 2" spacer.

It’s a 2 piece adapter, that would look like this but Bora brand.

The specs for the 1.5 inches two pieces adapters would be:

First piece would be .91 of 1 inch spacer that sits against the hub and 5 lugs. The second piece is .59 of 1 inch adapter which has the 6 bolt pattern.

I don’t know if the first piece would clear the bolts as they need to sit flush and can’t have any protrusion.

 

[UnFadeable21]

I cant imagine why you would need to trim the studs on a 1.5" spacer. You do not need to. I have .75" spacers on mine and they did not require trimming with factory (base) wheels.

The studs will be completely covered/recessed inside the spacer. 2" is huge... I would not use a 2" spacer.

It’s a 2 piece adapter,

This is a different beast than what most are usually talking about with spacers. Haven't really seen much discussion around here about adapting the 5lug to a 6lug pattern. So you may be the first to do that.

The 1.5 in M14x1.5 is not the length of the screw/bolt. It's the thread pitch (or thread width) which in this case is 1.5mm.

Here's a post with factory stud dimensions.

Builds - The Guzzler - 2009 LX570

Wired up the new rear lights. Took some time to address several years of various accessories wiring at the back, now all nicely buttoned up again. They work, but I’ll probably add an additional reverse light. I got spoiled by the two dedicated reverse spots. Swapped an engine skid to...

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This thread has some measurements of installed studs.

Aftermarket wheels with tapered/conical lug nuts - too little thread engagement?

To those with aftermarket wheels using conical lug nuts, how many turns does it take before the lug nut stops when turning by hand? I only have 5 turns in the front and around 7 and a half turns in the rear. Doesn't seem to be enough thread engagement in the front. It also doesn't look like an...

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Thanks for the links brother, it’s much appreciated.

So according to this guy, the fronts are 24 mm and the rear are 27 mm.

That would make them .944 of 1 inch for the front and 1.06 inches in the rear.

I’m gonna be putting my Sequoia rims on my LC. They are 2crave No.11 brand of rims I bought when I graduated from college. They got sentimental value for me lol. They are a 6x139 bolt pattern so I need wheel adapters to put on the LC which has a 5x150
bolt pattern. They use 285/45r22 tires.

Actually giving my Sequoia to my cousin later this month. He just had his 3rd kid and needs a bigger vehicle. It’s a 2004 with 225,000 miles. Dealership valued a 6k trade in when I bought my LC in December but I decided to keep it and give it to the fam for 2k. I’m giving it to him with the stock SRS/Limited wheels.

 

[HRTROB]

^ IMO, seems like a lot of effort, not to mention a huge compromise on safety, to put some wheels that look totally out of place on a Land Cruiser.

 

[UnFadeable21]

^ IMO, seems like a lot of effort, not to mention a huge compromise on safety, to put some wheels that look totally out of place on a Land Cruiser.

I won’t be going off roading. Never was the type.

I could buy the same wheels with the correct bolt pattern for the LC but wheels and tires would be looking at $3K plus with spacers so another $300.

Or I can buy some adapters for $500+ and use my same old wheels.

Again it’s the sentimental value I have him in them. Bought them when I was a poor college kid. Can’t get rid of them and I still like them a lot.