For Sale Most recent 200 Series purchase prices (10 Viewers)

Hi! IF you're willing to share, I thought it might be helpful for the rest of us to better understand what the market prices are for the 200 series (and LX 570 I suppose). I'm personally looking for one, have found a few, and curious what others' purchase prices have been so I can negotiate (or not) properly.

Please share purchase price, year, mileage at purchase, and location (east/west/south, etc...)

Thanks and happy hunting for those also looking.

 

[a200]

For Used LX570 with 150k miles in fair/good shape. These are not "list price". These are the numbers I used when looking for a LX570 that I would pay, less tax, tag, title. I ended up with a LX570 because the disparity was too great for equal vehicles with different badging and different bells and whistles. This info put together in January 2023.

Year	Fair Price	Steal	Holy Smokes
2008	$ 20,095.75	$ 18,095.75	$ 16,595.75
2009	$ 20,935.50	$ 18,935.50	$ 17,435.50
2010	$ 23,193.50	$ 21,193.50	$ 19,693.50
2011	$ 25,011.00	$ 23,011.00	$ 21,511.00
2013	$ 26,943.00	$ 24,943.00	$ 23,443.00
2014	$ 29,603.25	$ 27,603.25	$ 26,103.25
2015	$ 35,187.00	$ 33,187.00	$ 31,687.00
2016	$ 45,434.00	$ 43,434.00	$ 41,934.00
2017	$ 47,414.00	$ 45,414.00	$ 43,914.00

Nothing on here or the other list seems even close to realistic. Are you talking about rust buckets from the north east? Any of these in good shape from a southern state listed at a dealer for $5k more would be sold in a day.

 

[Clickws]

This is my best stab at it and many will come up with other ways to assess. Just want to share my process and experience with my predictions. There are exceptions to all rules.

Yes, if you go to a dealership they will have LC and LX listed for $2-5k or more above the "fair" price listed. Some will laugh when you hit them with the low number. There will be some nuance to every individual vehicle and its history. The "fair price" would be somewhere around what a dealer has in it (trade in + cleaning + some basic maint items) or that a private seller would most likely consider their bottom dollar. The prices to most people will seem low as we come out of the crazy highs we have seen but this is an effective projection for this year, in my opinion. Some dealers or individuals will hold onto higher pricing and may still get it but overall there are more coming on the market and several that have been sitting for longer. These numbers will make more sense maybe in 6 months from now. Dealers will have a harder time because of what they may have paid for it on trade in or someone that bought to flip.

I've had about 4 vehicles (3 lx and 1 lc) within 6 hours of me that I looked at, they passed on my offer, and later circled back that ultimately sold for what I projected or within $1,000. I got my LX for the "holy smokes" price but to be fair I have had to catch up on some maintenance items that were neglected (coolant, plugs, brake fluid, front rotors and pads, diff and transfer case fluid) that I added back , plus travel expense, that got me into the "fair" to "steal" pricing with OEM parts with me doing the labor. No rust, southern truck, not on the coast, with maintenance records every 5k miles since new (basic oil changes, tire rotations, brake replacements, tire replacements, and the fuel pump recall; nothing more).

I was turned down by several dealers and individuals when I initially offered. Funny enough, I have had about 6 different people calling me back wanting to reneg (dealers and individuals). I had to be patient and had to have conversations with people. I did have to drive 8 hours one way to get it but it was worth it. They can be found and had, for the scrupulous.

All I can say is it panned out for me in the southeast from a private seller.

 

[TXMeatball]

LX market is about back to pre covid pricing. Only thing is they're 3 years older.
Tossing around the idea of selling my 2010 with 146k and finding another project 80. Carmax offered a little under 18 for it this week. Dealer I bought my GSF at offered 19 in december. Private sale being optimistic is 21? Regardless all the 08-11s going for low to mid 20s is a hell of a lot of car for the priced compared to what 80/100s are still kinda going for.

 

[ageslurkin]

In the high mileage early LC200 camp, saw one on FB Marketplace in rural MN - 2008, 215K miles, $21.5. Pics looked nice, no view at undercarriage (gotta be some rust, it is MN). Too far away for me to go look at it. Still live FB Marketplace 2008 LC 215K

 

[MJernigan]

LX market is about back to pre covid pricing. Only thing is they're 3 years older.
Tossing around the idea of selling my 2010 with 146k and finding another project 80. Carmax offered a little under 18 for it this week. Dealer I bought my GSF at offered 19 in december. Private sale being optimistic is 21? Regardless all the 08-11s going for low to mid 20s is a hell of a lot of car for the priced compared to what 80/100s are still kinda going for.

If you’re serious about selling it pm me the details as I’m trying to find one that’s been well kept.

 

[zackro]

I can't comment on anything outside of '13-'15 LX570s with under 100k, but I know that market quite well right now. If we are looking at salt-free states, generally speaking, a truck with 80k is going for about $40-42k, a truck with 60k is going for about $45-46k and the super low mileage trucks (under 45k) are going for $50-55k. You will see some 100-110k trucks going for $33-35k, and if you find one with a good service history, that might be the buy of the bunch.

These are typical prices, not "I searched for two months and found the best buy within 2,000 miles" prices.

 

[zackro]

For Used LX570 with 150k miles in fair/good shape. These are not "list price". These are the numbers I used when looking for a LX570 that I would pay, less tax, tag, title. I ended up with a LX570 because the disparity was too great for equal vehicles with different badging and different bells and whistles. This info put together in January 2023.

Year	Fair Price	Steal	Holy Smokes
2008	$ 20,095.75	$ 18,095.75	$ 16,595.75
2009	$ 20,935.50	$ 18,935.50	$ 17,435.50
2010	$ 23,193.50	$ 21,193.50	$ 19,693.50
2011	$ 25,011.00	$ 23,011.00	$ 21,511.00
2013	$ 26,943.00	$ 24,943.00	$ 23,443.00
2014	$ 29,603.25	$ 27,603.25	$ 26,103.25
2015	$ 35,187.00	$ 33,187.00	$ 31,687.00
2016	$ 45,434.00	$ 43,434.00	$ 41,934.00
2017	$ 47,414.00	$ 45,414.00	$ 43,914.00

IMO, the gap between 2013 and 2015 is way, way, way too big. There's a small difference in value there. Certainly not $8-9k for same mileage.

If you can find a '13 with 100k for $29-32k (adding 10-15% to your numbers above), you have found the greatest deal in the history of Land Cruisers. You better buy ten of them. From what I've seen, that's about $10k lower than current reality.

 

[Clickws]

IMO, the gap between 2013 and 2015 is way, way, way too big. There's a small difference in value there. Certainly not $8-9k for same mileage.

If you can find a '13 with 100k for $29-32k (adding 10-15% to your numbers above), you have found the greatest deal in the history of Land Cruisers. You better buy ten of them. From what I've seen, that's about $10k lower than current reality.

I do not wholly disagree with this and can see how this could be somewhat slippery. However, I took the numbers I found on the websites and did not cherry pick best prices or best vehicles. I tried to pull averages so I knew what ballpark to expect and help guide me where to look and feel more confident in what I paid.

Assuming we are talking about the LX prices:

I do think we can all agree that what they are truly worth vs what the "market" values these don't align. Inherently these vehicles get subjected to similar parameters of lesser vehicles, unfairly so. A 2 year older car is still a 2 year older car, it will get dinged. The disparity of $8-9k is based on averaged numbers pulled from KBB, NADA, AutoTempest, AutoTrader, Edmunds, etc.

See below. This is straight from KBB (which is only one source I pulled from to get my numbers) seems to align relatively. 150k and 100k

Now, anyone who owns an LX and knows what they have will know that it should be worth more for what it is but the dealers and the general market doesn't generally care. The greatest advantage to owners of LX or LC is that there are so few of them in comparison to other production cars. Owners can choose what they will let it go for and buyers will ultimately inform what a car is worth by how much one is willing to pay. That will be a car by car basis.

150k Miles

100k Miles

 

[Clickws]

I can't comment on anything outside of '13-'15 LX570s with under 100k, but I know that market quite well right now. If we are looking at salt-free states, generally speaking, a truck with 80k is going for about $40-42k, a truck with 60k is going for about $45-46k and the super low mileage trucks (under 45k) are going for $50-55k. You will see some 100-110k trucks going for $33-35k, and if you find one with a good service history, that might be the buy of the bunch.

These are typical prices, not "I searched for two months and found the best buy within 2,000 miles" prices.

I put these numbers together the first week of January. Went and bought my 2015 LX 2 weeks later in the range I have shown. Drove 520 miles one way. Used a weekend and enjoyed the trip.

Again, this was my experience and certainly will not be everyone else's.

 

[zackro]

150k Miles

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100k Miles

I confirmed your numbers on KBB. That is absolutely insane. That is not where the market is. For fun, I looked at AutoTrader and compared 2013 vs 2015 on trucks with 95-100k. There's maybe $2k difference. KBB is wrong, plain and simple.

 

[Clickws]

I confirmed your numbers on KBB. That is absolutely insane. That is not where the market is. For fun, I looked at AutoTrader and compared 2013 vs 2015 on trucks with 95-100k. There's maybe $2k difference. KBB is wrong, plain and simple.

I don’t disagree but right, wrong, or indifferent, KBB will “inform” the market to some degree.

Also, for AutoTrader be sure to knock off for dealers markup and usually those prices include paying the tax, tag, and title.

 

[zackro]

I don’t disagree but right, wrong, or indifferent, KBB will “inform” the market to some degree.

Also, for AutoTrader be sure to knock off for dealers markup and usually those prices include paying the tax, tag, and title.

Well, FWIW, the single cheapest 2013 with under 100k in the entire country on AutoTrader is $35k. And that's from a rusty state. KBB's algorithm is doing something funky. I'd challenge anyone to find a 2013 with under 100k for anywhere close to $26k. The cheapest I've found doing nationwide searches (including Facebook) is around $32-33k, and those generally weren't pristine trucks. The average would be closer to $35-38k.

 

[speedtre]

Well, FWIW, the single cheapest 2013 with under 100k in the entire country on AutoTrader is $35k. And that's from a rusty state. KBB's algorithm is doing something funky. I'd challenge anyone to find a 2013 with under 100k for anywhere close to $26k. The cheapest I've found doing nationwide searches (including Facebook) is around $32-33k, and those generally weren't pristine trucks. The average would be closer to $35-38k.

The market is all over the place right now...I think some dealers are realizing what's coming and some still have blinders one (as private owners always do until it's obvious).
This one seems like a great deal...I had them send m3 the carfax (DM me if you want it) and it's clean, but that right rear fender is suspect. If I was closer to it (I'm 4+ hours away) I would be there now checking it out...

2014, 43K, $39.9K

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[Specialeyes]

The market is all over the place right now...I think some dealers are realizing what's coming and some still have blinders on

This for sure. What I am seeing is dealers offering less on trades yet not discounting their own inventory accordingly. This goes for new or pre owned. Lot's of dealers out there who took LC's and other vehicles at a premium 6-8 months ago and now do not want to take a "L" on them.

 

[TheLCProject]

KBB and whatever other pricing algorithms that dealers are using are lagging prices. Easily 1-4 weeks behind, if not more.

Dealers have gotten lazy and just use these algorithms to price their vehicles and so you’ll see nonsensical ups and downs in any long-listed vehicle’s price history.

Does anyone else here make it a habit to load their vin or desired make/model/year into CarEdge.com?
It can be very helpful.

 

[zackro]

The market is all over the place right now...I think some dealers are realizing what's coming and some still have blinders one (as private owners always do until it's obvious).
This one seems like a great deal...I had them send m3 the carfax (DM me if you want it) and it's clean, but that right rear fender is suspect. If I was closer to it (I'm 4+ hours away) I would be there now checking it out...

2014, 43K, $39.9K

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That is a great deal, at least on paper. Obviously the question is whether the fender is the victim of a minor mall parking lot bump that didn't get reported or whether there is more going on. But a 2014 with 43k for $40k is a good buy.

Edit to add: I added the vin to Lexus drivers and found this entry back in 2014:

SERVICE: RECONDITION DAMAGED PANELS AS PER ATTACHED ESTIMATE.
DESCRIPTION: ~|~REPLACE FRONT BUMPER (DAMAGED) PER GUEST REQUEST ~|~

However, that vehicle has an excellent service history. Most service was done early. It also spent about half of its life in southern California. You need to get on this!

 

[speedtre]

That is a great deal, at least on paper. Obviously the question is whether the fender is the victim of a minor mall parking lot bump that didn't get reported or whether there is more going on. But a 2014 with 43k for $40k is a good buy.

That was my exact thought. Wish it was closer so I could inspect that fender myself....it's my exact color combo preference too...

 

[zackro]

That was my exact thought. Wish it was closer so I could inspect that fender myself....it's my exact color combo preference too...

See the edit I added to my previous comment.

 

[Clickws]

I tried my best to figure out a “sweet spot” on mileage and age. I love the idea of a low mile truck but the price point I was in pushed me toward older models. I came to a conclusion that if I could find one with good service records every 5-10k miles and was in decent condition and cleanliness (of course no rust), then I was willing to sacrifice mileage for newer model. 150k miles was my tipping point. I just figured every vehicle will speak for itself and would adjust based on care/ miles based on what was actually available.

Any other pros or cons to newer vs older vs higher mile vs lower mile? I realize this leans into preference but there should be some intersection of value, mileage, condition, etc. I’m usually finding myself looking for best bang for buck. I’ve seen people overpay for low miles with poor care and severely devalue due to higher mile but good care

 

[Alpine4X4]

Good service records sometimes is lacking even if scheduled and routine service is being performed. A good example is people who are mechanically inclined tend to do their own routine maintenance, and who bothers to get on a Website to log it. For example, I tend to change my oil filters at every 5K miles, regardless if it's been two months or 14 months, but don't log anything anywhere. Living someplace where a Toyota dealership is far away, or getting an appointment for a service in a timely manner can be a challenge, and often people take them to their local shop for routine maintenance... Some good, some bad.

Here in Colorado, getting an appointment at some Toyota dealerships for a simple oil/filter change can be pushed months out because many dealerships are slammed.

I've also heard of some dealerships not doing quality maintenance i.e. breaking recirculation doors when checking cabin air filter, oil filter housings not on tight, filters not installed correctly inside the housing, etc.

So best to ask thorough questions, but don't dismiss a vehicle just because there's no recorded maintenance on Carfax.