For Sale Most recent 200 Series purchase prices

[Clickws]

Agreed that not all service records indicate good care.

I used the best dealership in town for a new 4runner we bought and serviced it for there for the warranty period only. I wanted it to work out but ultimately getting a stamp in my maintenance booklet was not worth the headaches and lack of attention to detail.

My understanding is that the techs are almost like private contractors on 1099 and make more money by getting things in and out quickly as possible. Most services are set priced. Not a good incentive program for actual care for the vehicles. Too much goes overlooked.

Obviously recalls and service bulletins are better to have than not have but for normal maintenance, I will do my own and log it in excel and Carfax.

 

[firepuglife]

Agreed that not all service records indicate good care.

I used the best dealership in town for a new 4runner we bought and serviced it for there for the warranty period only. I wanted it to work out but ultimately getting a stamp in my maintenance booklet was not worth the headaches and lack of attention to detail.

My understanding is that the techs are almost like private contractors on 1099 and make more money by getting things in and out quickly as possible. Most services are set priced. Not a good incentive program for actual care for the vehicles. Too much goes overlooked.

Obviously recalls and service bulletins are better to have than not have but for normal maintenance, I will do my own and log it in excel and Carfax.

Some of the best records are of people who just keep folders and/or spreadsheets of all receipts and maintenance from “specialist”. And just to get the carfax stamp sometimes can hurt your pride and joy, we all know some dealerships can royally screw some s*** up, and sometimes they are the only dealership for 100s of miles.

 

[speedtre]

That is a great deal, at least on paper. Obviously the question is whether the fender is the victim of a minor mall parking lot bump that didn't get reported or whether there is more going on. But a 2014 with 43k for $40k is a good buy.

Edit to add: I added the vin to Lexus drivers and found this entry back in 2014:

SERVICE: RECONDITION DAMAGED PANELS AS PER ATTACHED ESTIMATE.
DESCRIPTION: ~|~REPLACE FRONT BUMPER (DAMAGED) PER GUEST REQUEST ~|~

However, that vehicle has an excellent service history. Most service was done early. It also spent about half of its life in southern California. You need to get on this!

LOL, I was going to do that, but couldn't get into my Lexus owners account today for some reason. If it was closer, I would definitely go see it. I believe before the end of this year we'll see a 10-20% correction on typical prices today, so I'm trying not to be too impatient....

 

[Clickws]

Well, FWIW, the single cheapest 2013 with under 100k in the entire country on AutoTrader is $35k. And that's from a rusty state. KBB's algorithm is doing something funky. I'd challenge anyone to find a 2013 with under 100k for anywhere close to $26k. The cheapest I've found doing nationwide searches (including Facebook) is around $32-33k, and those generally weren't pristine trucks. The average would be closer to $35-38k.

2013 Lexus LX570

Well-maintained, mostly unmodified 2013 Lexus LX570 - the more luxurious evolution of the 200-Series Land Cruiser (i did a chrome delete so she'd look more like one) VIN# JTJHY7AXXD4119668 5.7L V8...

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Here a link to a sub 100k mile truck. Asking is $35k and been on the market for 2 weeks. I would assume this is a ih8mud member.

I agree that my +10-15% is general for a vehicle right at 100k. The price increase would be a curve not linear as you go down in mileage. There are far fewer of these vehicles with lower miles and especially if they are older. Its a niche market within a niche market. The folks that really really want a sub 100k mile car and actually buy one are more likely to have plenty of funds to justify the higher prices than what a dealer or average used car buyer is going to be willing to jump on. Inherently, the truck will sit longer than average waiting on the seller to take less or a buyer to finally show up. My anticipation is that more sellers are going to make the move first going forward.

 

[firepuglife]

2013 Lexus LX570

Well-maintained, mostly unmodified 2013 Lexus LX570 - the more luxurious evolution of the 200-Series Land Cruiser (i did a chrome delete so she'd look more like one) VIN# JTJHY7AXXD4119668 5.7L V8...

www.facebook.com

Here a link to a sub 100k mile truck. Asking is $35k and been on the market for 2 weeks. I would assume this is a ih8mud member.

I agree that my +10-15% is general for a vehicle right at 100k. The price increase would be a curve not linear as you go down in mileage. There are far fewer of these vehicles with lower miles and especially if they are older. Its a niche market within a niche market. The folks that really really want a sub 100k mile car and actually buy one more likely to have plenty of funds to justify the higher prices than what a dealer or average used car buyer is going to be willing to jump on. Inherently, the truck will sit longer than average waiting on the seller to take less or a buyer to finally show up. My anticipation is that more sellers are going to make the move first going forward.

Lol yes it’s an ih8mud member, and it’s immaculate and it’s worth it. It’s @HBAla LX570

SOLD - 2013 LX570 - Huntsville, Ala - 93,000 miles

Well-maintained, mostly unmodified 2013 Lexus LX570 - the more luxurious evolution of the 200-Series Land Cruiser (i did a chrome delete so she'd look more like one) VIN# JTJHY7AXXD4119668 5.7L V8 (3UR-FE) $91k MSRP in 2013 from Hendrick Lexus Northlake in Charlotte. I am asking $36,000.00...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[gotmack]

Don't forget that the difference between an 8 year old truck and 10 is financing, which influences the price. Most dealers & production lenders (high volume commercial) don't lend on vehicles older than 7-8 years, so a buyer on a 10 year old truck is having to do private finance through their bank (if the banks will loan on things that old) or pay cash.

 

[a200]

Don't forget that the difference between an 8 year old truck and 10 is financing, which influences the price. Most dealers & production lenders (high volume commercial) don't lend on vehicles older than 7-8 years, so a buyer on a 10 year old truck is having to do private finance through their bank (if the banks will loan on things that old) or pay cash.

I think crossing the 10 year mark is a pretty big deal, or it is to most of the world who have not owned a Toyota 4x4.

 

[zackro]

2013 Lexus LX570

Well-maintained, mostly unmodified 2013 Lexus LX570 - the more luxurious evolution of the 200-Series Land Cruiser (i did a chrome delete so she'd look more like one) VIN# JTJHY7AXXD4119668 5.7L V8...

www.facebook.com

Here a link to a sub 100k mile truck. Asking is $35k and been on the market for 2 weeks. I would assume this is a ih8mud member.

I agree that my +10-15% is general for a vehicle right at 100k. The price increase would be a curve not linear as you go down in mileage. There are far fewer of these vehicles with lower miles and especially if they are older. Its a niche market within a niche market. The folks that really really want a sub 100k mile car and actually buy one are more likely to have plenty of funds to justify the higher prices than what a dealer or average used car buyer is going to be willing to jump on. Inherently, the truck will sit longer than average waiting on the seller to take less or a buyer to finally show up. My anticipation is that more sellers are going to make the move first going forward.

The asking is $35k, not $26k. What am I missing? That truck has been posted on here for sale, and the general consensus is it's priced very well for a clean looking truck. And that's at $35k. KBB is claiming it's worth $26k, and my challenge was for someone to find a single truck with those numbers that is close to $26k.

 

[zackro]

Don't forget that the difference between an 8 year old truck and 10 is financing, which influences the price. Most dealers & production lenders (high volume commercial) don't lend on vehicles older than 7-8 years, so a buyer on a 10 year old truck is having to do private finance through their bank (if the banks will loan on things that old) or pay cash.

Yes, but as I mentioned, this big gap isn't showing up in actual listings. I ran separate searches for 2013 and 2015 trucks, both with 90-100k miles. The gap was maybe $2k....nowhere close to $8-9k. I think it's much more likely that something funky is going on with KBB's data.

You could convince me that such a gap exists between 2011 and 2015 trucks. The market really cares about body style changes, even if they are just facelifts.

To add to this, I just bought a 2014 LX with 87k for $37k. I've been waiting to do a post on that until I pick it up, but the seller was inundated with calls in the first hour. I saw the ad literally one hour after it was posted, and even after we had agreed and I'd sent a deposit, he had people offering him over asking price. Fortunately, he's an honest guy and honored our deal. But KBB currently has that truck -- with Mark Levinson, luxury package, cooled seats, park assist, etc. -- at $29k. That's not even close to where the market is.

KBB is always a little bit wrong when it comes to older vehicles with a big following. I saw this when I sold my LX470 three years ago. It was a low mileage (108k) 2005, and I sold it for $25k when I think KBB was $18k. There wasn't a single vehicle with similar specs at $18k anywhere, but nevertheless, that's what KBB showed.

 

[a200]

I believe before the end of this year we'll see a 10-20% correction

I am on board with those numbers. A $30k$ truck at $27k. What happens next in the economy is the big unknown.

 

[a200]

Yes, but as I mentioned, this big gap isn't showing up in actual listings. I ran separate searches for 2013 and 2015 trucks, both with 90-100k miles. The gap was maybe $2k....nowhere close to $8-9k. I think it's much more likely that something funky is going on with KBB's data.

You could convince me that such a gap exists between 2011 and 2015 trucks. The market really cares about body style changes, even if they are just facelifts.

To add to this, I just bought a 2013 LX with 87k for $35k. I've been waiting to do a post on that until I pick it up, but the seller was inundated with calls in the first hour. I saw the ad literally one hour after it was posted, and even after we had agreed and I'd sent a deposit, he had people offering him over asking price. Fortunately, he's an honest guy and honored our deal. But KBB currently has that truck -- with Mark Levinson, luxury package, cooled seats, park assist, etc. -- at $29k. That's not even close to where the market is.

KBB is always a little bit wrong when it comes to older vehicles with a big following. I saw this when I sold my LX470 three years ago. It was a low mileage (108k) 2005, and I sold it for $25k when I think KBB was $18k. There wasn't a single vehicle with similar specs at $18k anywhere, but nevertheless, that's what KBB showed.

Congratulations. I would also expect it to sell quick at that price. Let's see it.

 

[nissanh]

"people offering him over asking price" WOW... They are the people inflate price of a car. Glad you had a deposit and a honest seller. Most people who make that offer sometimes, don't show up so the seller loses his first customer and the guy who offered above the asking price.
I missed a good low mile 2018 LC because I didn't contact the seller honoring that I was second in the line and wait to hear from the seller whether the first went through or not. The first buyer wasted my opportunity of getting a low mile 2018!

 

[zackro]

Congratulations. I would also expect it to sell quick at that price. Let's see it.

I'll do a little build thread at some point in the next few weeks. I have an LFD full rack coming (should be the second or third full rack they have on a 200 series), and I'm mounting some 275/60/20 KO2s. I'll also do a mild AHC lift with spacers. The goal with this is family camping, Colorado 14er access and daily driving. My wife and I already have a ten day northern California trip planned for July.

It's silver over black, and the service history is impeccable. It's also a lifetime Colorado truck, so there's no rust (Colorado doesn't use salt, and the dry air in general isn't conducive to rust).

2014 LX570, 81k, every option, $35.5k

 

[desmocruiser]

KBB is not a very accurate indicator of vehicle values, I personally would not determine a good or bad deal based on their published valuation.

 

[Hondu]

2016, 48k, $80k 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle... - https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-2016-toyota-land-cruiser/7585818488.html

 

[ageslurkin]

2008 LC, 116K miles, Iowa, looks to have sold around $30,500. Seems to have been in the range of the going rate for these. Seems like $25K is the going rate for 2008s with 200K miles, so is it worth it to get 75K less miles for $5K more? Personal question there is not consensus on. Link to sold listing on FB marketplace. Log into Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1212387916367424/

 

[ageslurkin]

2016, 48k, $80k 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle... - https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-2016-toyota-land-cruiser/7585818488.html

Wonky price here, sure this is one of the lowest out there for a 2016 but 60K or 80K would not scare me. Would think stock would be $55-65K, then are the mods worth it? Maybe. Super clean.

M1 in Austin TX has a 2017, 60K miles, but less desirable mods for $62K.

 

[ageslurkin]

Interestingly, you can pick up a 2021 without the mods and similar mileage for the same price. Which is what I would do and spend on the mods, but I assume people buying $80K vehicles can do $90K and not need to finance modifications.

 

[ageslurkin]

Also saw a 2010 LC200, 140K, listed at 27,999. FB listing was up and I message for undercarriage pics and it had already sold. Fair price on that one for sure.

FB listing screenshot but ad was deleted so cannot link to that.

 

[TheLCProject]

I ended up finally getting a chance to see this one up close. Interior had been well-used by a family. Lots of stains that the poor detail guys couldn't get out. I was digging the all leather steering wheel. That was nice compared to the crappy wood one that's usually on these.

I made the technicians do a block test in front of me, and while they didn't hold it on there as long as I wanted, 5-10 minutes, the blue fluid didn't appear to change color - so I guess that passes. It did lighten up a little, but it certainly didn't change to yellow and didn't really move toward green, either.

During the test drive it drove pretty well, but the center diff lock was super slow to come unlocked. Usually had to reverse the drivetrain to get it out (both under 4HI and 4LO usage). Maybe it just needs to be exercised more, but on one test when I hit the button to lock going down a straight road at like 30 mph, it clunked real bad repeatedly and was enough to make me step away.

As soon as I told my salesperson the news he immediately changed his attitude toward me and called his coworker and said to call the next in line.

If it's someone on here, enjoy your truck. It's really not that bad but I'm picky.

From the rear driver side window (the heart is for all of you on this special day):

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I’ve negotiated verbal terms of $23,988 out the door (including local CA 10% sales tax - so like $2400 off) and cost on any parts needed (new carpet perhaps).

So it’s just a hair over $21k actually - and I’m kind of compelled.

Please someone call in and make the same terms and take it.