Maximum incline angle before rollover danger?

[TexasJack]

I agree with Woody on this one. The more times you get a tight pucker the better you get at knowing what is possible and what is foolish. It can be a fine line.

Keep in mind too that what your eyes see isn't all there is to the picture. Angles can look more or less acute depending on your perspective. What may appear pretty easy on approach can look downright frightening once you are on it and realize you are losing it.

The scariest situations I have been in were where I didn't know the terrain that well and didn't have a spotter. Something you might want to avoid in Honduras.

 

[The Jade Bean]

The scariest situations I have been in were where I didn't know the terrain that well and didn't have a spotter. Something you might want to avoid in Honduras.

That's sound advice... I don't think I've gonna anywhere "off-road" in Central America without someone to help. Fun fact: where we usually go 1. It isn't for "wheeling" fun 2. It's usually because that "road" (if it can be called that) is the only way to get there.

Have you ever seen IRT Deadliest Roads?... Well I found it funny because I'm like: I drive roads like that every time I'm in CA!

~Daniel

EDIT: To be clear I'm in no way implying superiority to anyone... When we (wife and I) first went to live in Guatemala for 2 months they kinda threw us to the wolves... Here's the keys to the truck, there's the town, oh and tomorrow morning you'll be driving the missionaries up the mountain. What!

Trial by fire...

Sent from deep in the mountains of Honduras using only sticks and rocks.

 

[cahill]

Nope...you would be smart enough to back out prior to the roll...your own 'fear point' will kick in far before it happens...

Thanks Woody for the clarification. Out of curiosity, does rolling 50 time change when that "fear point" kicks in, and if so does it kick in sooner or later than before?

 

[BrotherRob]

Thanks Woody for the clarification. Out of curiosity, does rolling 50 time change when that "fear point" kicks in, and if so does it kick in sooner or later than before?

Apparently, later.

 

[rove_mcanus]

Real Man's 4WD Track - YouTube

And this should give you a good indication of the kind of side slop a stock 80 can take

Losail - Qatar (short film) - YouTube

 

[CruiseOrlando]

Real Man's 4WD Track - YouTube

And this should give you a good indication of the kind of side slop a stock 80 can take

Losail - Qatar (short film) - YouTube

Yeah, but what kind of gas mileage does it get?!?!

I loved the tire blowout towards the end... that was great. Hard work on those tires tho....

 

[greentruck]

That's sound advice... I don't think I've gonna anywhere "off-road" in Central America without someone to help. Fun fact: where we usually go 1. It isn't for "wheeling" fun 2. It's usually because that "road" (if it can be called that) is the only way to get there.

Have you ever seen IRT Deadliest Roads?... Well I found it funny because I'm like: I drive roads like that every time I'm in CA! .
SNIP

Here's another way I evaluate iffy angled situations...

Does it look like a road? Do other people use it regularly?

Now, it's no guarantee YOU won't have a problem, but if it's a path that's regularly used enough to look like a road or otherwise has indications of back and forth traffic, then while it may look and be scary, most likely there isn't a pile and crashed and burned trucks at the bottom. Proceed with caution, but the fact that it's being used means some folks aren't so scared to use it and most likely didn't roll over and die the last time they did.

Yep, needing to get places and the road sucks is a whole different level of challenge than poking around in the boonies for fun. Usually it's not the sidehills that are the problem, it's the mud, water, and obstacles.

When you're really far back, then whatever is making roads may not even be a truck, rather might be a tractor. That's when it gets tough to judge as things will be going fine and all of the sudden you get to The Perfect Obstacle. There's a road on the other side, but something has interrupted things, keeping you from proceeding. These are the really dangerous situations, as one is tempted by the idea that just getting to the other side will make everything good again. If only you can make it -- and that's the rub.

 

[The Jade Bean]

Here's another way I evaluate iffy angled situations...

Does it look like a road? Do other people use it regularly?

Now, it's no guarantee YOU won't have a problem, but if it's a path that's regularly used enough to look like a road or otherwise has indications of back and forth traffic, then while it may look and be scary, most likely there isn't a pile and crashed and burned trucks at the bottom. Proceed with caution, but the fact that it's being used means some folks aren't so scared to use it and most likely didn't roll over and die the last time they did.

Yep, needing to get places and the road sucks is a whole different level of challenge than poking around in the boonies for fun. Usually it's not the sidehills that are the problem, it's the mud, water, and obstacles.

When you're really far back, then whatever is making roads may not even be a truck, rather might be a tractor. That's when it gets tough to judge as things will be going fine and all of the sudden you get to The Perfect Obstacle. There's a road on the other side, but something has interrupted things, keeping you from proceeding. These are the really dangerous situations, as one is tempted by the idea that just getting to the other side will make everything good again. If only you can make it -- and that's the rub.

Well that's all good stuff. It's always an ADVENTURE for us there and part of why I love it so much!!!

-Daniel

Sent from deep in the mountains of Honduras using only sticks and rocks.

 

[Black Rhino 13]

I agree. It's all part of judgment. I would expect to be able to go just about anywhere there are existing tracks. I backed down from my 25-30 degree slope pretty quickly because I didn't know where those tracks up that hillside went and it was getting too late for exploring.