Mine just arrived in Long Beach today. Probably 2-4 weeks to arrive to dealer.
LX700h announcement (3 Viewers)
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Congrats man! Would love to read a detailed review from you on the new vehicle in time.
for a hot second I saw your signature font was green and thought you changed up to Nori, but then read Earth. Both colors are fantastic - congratulations!
Lol, what a dumb headline. "way better than expected"
The price is $120k!!! What in the world could you have expected???
They are doing GVM/GVWR upgrades in Australia of 3990kgs or ~8800 lbs with just a change of springs, shocks and tires.
They are also going 4200kgs (9260 lbs) GVWR upgrades with upgraded rear axle (3000kg)
Is this for armored vehicles? I used to load a pallet of 35 bags of portland cement into my HD truck for landscaping every few days and that ends up at 3,240lbs per pallet. Right about the weight you'd add to an LC300 to get to 9,200lbs. Short of something like that - what are those Australians up to? What kind of gear are they adding that's approaching 10k lbs?
Probably Ute conversions plus heavy trailers.
I guess I could see that. Now that they are importing full size trucks it seems like this might be a less common modification than it was in the past. Tundra was approved for sale in Oz in November of last year and will hit the dealers sometime in Q2 of 2025. I suspect they'll mostly replace the conversion market.
hoser
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^^^^ maybe... maybe not. The cost of a Tundra in OZ is very high ($156k AUD), nearly the same as a converted 300 because the Tundra has to be converted to RHD.
$156k AUD is like $20 USD right?
Seriously - that is a lot of $ for a Tundra!! backing out all the taxes and onroad fees, it's still probably $85k or something like that equivalent. I hope it's at least a Platinum trim model! But it's probably like an SR.
If we ever have another world war - I'd like for everyone to get together at the beginning and agree that whoever the victor is; everyone else has to conform to whatever side of the road they drive on.
hoser
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It will initially only come in one trim, "Limited" trim.
I watched these "reviews" and (except of the stupid nose) the 700h is impressive mainly because of the halo triple lockers. Not that I think they are essential, but it is just part of the folklore with LCs. Three things shock me though.
1 - Price - I know the OT is the second cheapest, but I refuse to grapple with $100k msrps;
2 - The 3 row battery pack situation is laughable and ridiculously clumsy. Someone should be fired for that in Toyota/Lexus;
3 - Though the humpff is significant with the hybrid in low speed, that lack of any engine sound while crawling was eerie to me. It may be outdated and in the past, but the growling V8 while wheeling is a big part of the smile in my face. That's gone now.
1 - Price - I know the OT is the second cheapest, but I refuse to grapple with $100k msrps;
2 - The 3 row battery pack situation is laughable and ridiculously clumsy. Someone should be fired for that in Toyota/Lexus;
3 - Though the humpff is significant with the hybrid in low speed, that lack of any engine sound while crawling was eerie to me. It may be outdated and in the past, but the growling V8 while wheeling is a big part of the smile in my face. That's gone now.
Regarding Price:
A 2018 Land Cruiser was ~$85,000
Adjusted for inflation that would be $108,300 today.
A 2018 Land Cruiser was ~$85,000
Adjusted for inflation that would be $108,300 today.
Funny how that works isn't it
I hear this left and right to justify car prices today.
I want to put you and all the other economists that keep saying this in contact with 2 people (in this order):
1 - my wife;
2 - HR manager at my company.
I have no idea where my $23k raise went and I have a feeling I am not alone.
Relying on the federally published CPI values as a metric to measure affordability is probably the underlying fallacy. They are not a measure of costs relative to median personal incomes. For the median person automobiles are significantly more expensive relative to income. They might be roughly similar in price inflation relative to housing prices or college tuition (items heavily weighted in CPI). But vehicles are not similar in inflation to median incomes.
Are they better? Should they cost more? I don't know. Just saying that CPI inflation comparison is not directly connected to comparing whether new vehicles are more expensive compared to income. The median person today can't afford the same car they could have 10, 20, or 30 years ago regardless of whether CPI adjustment says it's the same price.
Are they better? Should they cost more? I don't know. Just saying that CPI inflation comparison is not directly connected to comparing whether new vehicles are more expensive compared to income. The median person today can't afford the same car they could have 10, 20, or 30 years ago regardless of whether CPI adjustment says it's the same price.
