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LX600 vs LX700h Overtrail. How important are the lockers? (1 Viewer)
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I don't know. The GX550 and lX600 3rd row seats appear to be nearly identical - possibly they are actually interchangeable. I would think that would mean pretty similar cargo capacity since they are a good reference for he space.
I would assume the way you'd measure cargo volume is to use the model or 3d scan it and just calculate volume with the 3d interior model. If I ever end up having access to an LX600 I'll use my phone and make a 3d scan. Then we could actually overlay them and see what the real difference is. If anyone here works at a Lexus dealership and has an iPhone Pro model that can scan them - it would be pretty interesting to see. Toyota isn't exactly known for accuracy in spec sheets.
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I wouldn't compare vehicles using cargo specs. There are over a dozen different methods and manufacturers aren't required to use the same method.
It's odd that Toyota wouldn't use the same measurement for all of them. I know it doesn't have to - but if they're going to publish specs, why not publish them consistently?
The GX550 seems close to measurements. 50" wide x 40" tall x 80" deep cargo area is 92.5 cubic feet. Toyota says 90.5. Adjust for wheel wells and it's about spot on vs actual measurements.
LX600 has what appears to be identical width interior cargo measurements (50 inche width at the sides, 42" between the wheel wells) but I don't have a good depth or height. The middle row that just folds down and doesn't tumble could be 10 cubic feet less space because you don't count all of the open legroom volume (still useable though - I frequently would just remove the entire middle row when I was using a midsize SUV). And if there was a net of 2 inches lower roof height and 6 inches higher deck from the battery, that could end up at about 60-65 cubic feet.
It's possible it is the same measurement and most of the difference is in the way the middle row folds.
The GX550 seems close to measurements. 50" wide x 40" tall x 80" deep cargo area is 92.5 cubic feet. Toyota says 90.5. Adjust for wheel wells and it's about spot on vs actual measurements.
LX600 has what appears to be identical width interior cargo measurements (50 inche width at the sides, 42" between the wheel wells) but I don't have a good depth or height. The middle row that just folds down and doesn't tumble could be 10 cubic feet less space because you don't count all of the open legroom volume (still useable though - I frequently would just remove the entire middle row when I was using a midsize SUV). And if there was a net of 2 inches lower roof height and 6 inches higher deck from the battery, that could end up at about 60-65 cubic feet.
It's possible it is the same measurement and most of the difference is in the way the middle row folds.
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These are the specs on the website. Does it show same capacity with 3rd row delete? Or is 5 seater not listed? 4 seat luxury has same capacity as the 7 seater?
I don't think you're overthinking it. I say go with the 700 with lockers. That's a great, capable overland package. Beyond that it's hard to say how much to modify it. I always take my vehicles on trails until I get stuck or notice a need, then make the modification. If you're just going to build it up and go I think you would be happy with larger AT or MT tires, bumpers and sliders, and the 700 with lockers. That will get you through 99% of the forest roads and trails out there. Maybe a winch too. You could hit trails like Top of the World no problem.
I know you're not asking for advice about the campers but I figured I'd chime in since I know MDC relatively well. I have an MDC XT16 and I love it. Amazing trailer, great Australian (via China) construction. Overbuilt and heavy, all metal and composite. Mine technically isn't 16' long, it's actually about 22' long and weighs 5200 dry, GVWR about 6200, tongue weight 450. I tow it with my Tundra and it tows well, but the Tundra has a tow capacity of 10K lbs, nice long wheelbase, wider stance and bigger rear end.
The XT19 is rad. I'll probably upgrade to an XT17 when/if I feel the need for more space. But I think the XT19 might be too large for the 700 to comfortably tow.
The 19 is 6600 lbs dry, GVWR 7700 lbs, tongue weight 600 lbs. The LX700 has a tow capacity of 8K lbs and most people go by the 80/20 rule of thumb so you'd ideally have a camper that was more like 6400 lbs GVWR.
Also that trailer measures in at 25' and I think I would be hesitant to pull that even with my Tundra.. might be the tail wagging the dog on a short wheelbase if you know what I mean. I personally think a trailer that big is getting into RAM/F250 territory. Plus you can't run anti sway bars or weight distribution hitches on these if you want to use the D035 hitch (which is awesome for offroading)
I'm sure you could technically tow a trailer that big with the 700, but I doubt it would be fun, especially once you hit the mountain passes out west.
I'll have to try towing my XT16 with my 200 and report back on how it goes. I would recommend looking into something smaller like the XT16 or XT12, or maybe a Kimberly Kamper. I think that would make for a much more enjoyable setup with an LX700.
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Canyonero
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The LX700h Overtrail is the physical representation of the phrase “better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.”
Lockers are worth the money IMO. Also worth mentioning that if/when you sell, even if it’s in 20 years, a triple locked Lx700 will hold value better than almost anything.
Lockers are worth the money IMO. Also worth mentioning that if/when you sell, even if it’s in 20 years, a triple locked Lx700 will hold value better than almost anything.
if you reference the 80 series, there isn't much of a delta between the 3x and 1x.
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Maybe… maybe not. Had our Wrangler 392 on an obstacle course (Rock Garden) yesterday, fully locked… still ended up backing off and going around in the end, just a little bit too rough.
Absolutely no maybe about it. Now if I would have said 100% then you may have had a point of argument. Maybe
I just got my 700h Overtrail and am happy I have all that it offers. The last time I had tripple lockers was with my 80 series. Honestly the only time I used all three was to get my wife and two day old new born up a driveway with three feet of new snow. That one event, when you need it, makes it worth while. You and I will not use them, especially the front, but when you do, you will be grateful. The LX 700h Overtrail is the 300 series we in the US were denied until now. BTW I am also keeping my 2006 100 series which got me everywhere I wanted to go and out again, but now I have an even more capable vehicle to derive for the next 25 years.
