LX570-Tire type/size/ride and overall useablity recommendations (1 Viewer)

[SWUtah]

Want something that is a sturdy truck tire, but does not ruin my ride and handling. Live in N. FLA, but want to be able to drive across Kansas and through Colorado in a snow storm in the middle of winter. No rock crawling , but I could be on a fire road. 33" tire's 275/60/20 sound cool but will they provide better performance over 32" 275/55/20's. I've thought about BFG AT KO'2's, but they add an additional 14lbs of unsprung weight to each tire compared to the OEM 285/50/20's, plus noise, etc. looked at Michelin LTX AT2's and Michelin Defender MS2's, both look like great tire's but in what size would they be best?? I know 33" versus 32" would look better (LX would look more balanced with bigger rubber). But if I go with the 33" tire's can I still use my 31.2" OEM spare for a few miles to get a tire repaired without screwing up my LX? Bottom line tire's that look as badass as possible without ruining my ride experience. Your personal experiences would be very helpful.

 

[Malleus]

I can tell you what I hate: Michelin Latitude Tour HP. They're expensive, loud, ride rough and aren't LT tires.

From what I've been able to gather, there are no LT tires which will fit on the stock rims (someone please correct me). Toyota also made life doubly difficult by changing the bolt pattern and number from the 80/100 series, so you can't (easily) use the older rims which the Michelin LT M/S will fit (my favorite all-around, not trailed rated tire).

For street tires, my favorite was Hankook Ventus RS; I had two sets and both were great. Long tread life/sticky compound (not and easy trick to pull off; just ask anyone in the tire industry) and quiet. They were consistently the cheapest alternative, while they were on the market. For some reason I could never understand, Hankook pulled them.

 

[TeCKis300]

The easiest no brainer upgrade in tire size is simply to go 1 aspect ratio up in size. Stock is 285/50/20. So a 285/55/20 would be a super easy fit. It's also not too tall that it'll result in much noticeable clearance, brake, or power impact at 32.4", yet will fill the wheel wells nicely. A 275/60/20 would be fine too (33"), but there's a slight compromise of width to height. If you value cornering or braking performance at all, I'd go for the 285.

In any size tire, you can choose the "LT" model if offered. Absolutely LTs can fit on the stock wheel (I have some). Note that LT will result in firmer ride, especially in the load range D, and more so E versions as they have more plies and are built to be heavier duty. Also, there's a whole spectrum of aggressive highway tread tires, to mild AT tires, to aggressive AT tires that border on being MT. I would stay in the aggressive HT to mild AT range if you want minimal noise impact.

So which tire. I think a good fit, albeit an expensive tire for you would be the Michelin LTX AT2 LT285/55R20

More aggressive could be something like Nitto Terra Grappler G2 that have great on road manners.

 

[SWUtah]

The easiest no brainer upgrade in tire size is simply to go 1 aspect ratio up in size. Stock is 285/50/20. So a 285/55/20 would be a super easy fit. It's also not too tall that it'll result in much noticeable clearance, brake, or power impact at 32.4", yet will fill the wheel wells nicely. A 275/60/20 would be fine too (33"), but there's a slight compromise of width to height. If you value cornering or braking performance at all, I'd go for the 285.

In any size tire, you can choose the "LT" model if offered. Absolutely LTs can fit on the stock wheel (I have some). Note that LT will result in firmer ride, especially in the load range D, and more so E versions as they have more plies and are built to be heavier duty. Also, there's a whole spectrum of aggressive highway tread tires, to mild AT tires, to aggressive AT tires that border on being MT. I would stay in the aggressive HT to mild AT range if you want minimal noise impact.

So which tire. I think a good fit, albeit an expensive tire for you would be the Michelin LTX AT2 LT285/55R20

More aggressive could be something like Nitto Terra Grappler G2 that have great on road manners.

What tire size are you running? Will the LT285/55/20 LTX AT2 rub?

 

[AL LC2013]

Michelin offer a 30 day promise so if you try AT2 and don't like them you can return.

I bought a set in P-metric and I'd get the LTX if I had to do it again. They don't do as well in the rain as the LTX.

Tire preferences are interesting. Unlike Malleus, I have Latitude Tour HPs on a crossover and think they are quiet, ride smooth and are great tires.

 

[BragaLX]

Want something that is a sturdy truck tire, but does not ruin my ride and handling. Live in N. FLA, but want to be able to drive across Kansas and through Colorado in a snow storm in the middle of winter. No rock crawling , but I could be on a fire road. 33" tire's 275/60/20 sound cool but will they provide better performance over 32" 275/55/20's. I've thought about BFG AT KO'2's, but they add an additional 14lbs of unsprung weight to each tire compared to the OEM 285/50/20's, plus noise, etc. looked at Michelin LTX AT2's and Michelin Defender MS2's, both look like great tire's but in what size would they be best?? I know 33" versus 32" would look better (LX would look more balanced with bigger rubber). But if I go with the 33" tire's can I still use my 31.2" OEM spare for a few miles to get a tire repaired without screwing up my LX? Bottom line tire's that look as badass as possible without ruining my ride experience. Your personal experiences would be very helpful.

I have a 2013 LX and was in your position about 6 months ago. I was between BFG KO2 and Yokohamas and ended up getting Yokohamas Geolander G015 LT 285/55/20. It's a 32.6" tire and I love them. Looks great on the LX and I haven't noticed any changes in ride quality. I do notice the truck will downshift a little earlier than before but only when climbing. Once these wear down a bit I'll probably go for a more aggressive wheel and tire combo.

 

[TeCKis300]

What tire size are you running? Will the LT285/55/20 LTX AT2 rub?

I have the tire in my signature: Wildpeak A/T3W in 305/55/20s. These are on the aggressive end in both size, and tread style. More like K02's in aggressiveness. I picked the Falken's as they were very well reviewed by some tire insiders, and quieter than the K02's. With less aggressive (albiet still aggressive) side lugs that fit more with the LX. It also got excellent marks for snow performance.

These are 33.2" tires so require some massaging of the liner to fit without rub. The width also requires a spacer, of which I use 1" all around. Cornering and braking performance are a priority for me. So tire width is an attempt to keep that balance intact, given the tire lift and A/T tread. While also protecting the wheel as it's relatively more inset of the tire sidewalls.

Towing performance and stability is just dandy too.

 

[landcruiserLV]

+1 on the 305/55 r20's. Feel just right to me. I have Yokohama Parada Spex-X on my LC200 and I really like them. Requires mud flap delete to prevent rubbing tho.

 

[SWUtah]

I have the tire in my signature: Wildpeak A/T3W in 305/55/20s. These are on the aggressive end in both size, and tread style. More like K02's in aggressiveness. I picked the Falken's as they were very well reviewed by some tire insiders, and quieter than the K02's. With less aggressive (albiet still aggressive) side lugs that fit more with the LX. It also got excellent marks for snow performance.

These are 33.2" tires so require some massaging of the liner to fit without rub. The width also requires a spacer, of which I use 1" all around. Cornering and braking performance are a priority for me. So tire width is an attempt to keep that balance intact, given the tire lift and A/T tread. While also protecting the wheel as it's relatively more inset of the tire sidewalls.

Towing performance and stability is just dandy too.

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Most of the tire's in the 285/55/20 range are $300+, the wild peak A/T3W in that size are only $250. Would you recommend them? Do you think any modes/adjustments would be needed?

 

[SWUtah]

I have a 2013 LX and was in your position about 6 months ago. I was between BFG KO2 and Yokohamas and ended up getting Yokohamas Geolander G015 LT 285/55/20. It's a 32.6" tire and I love them. Looks great on the LX and I haven't noticed any changes in ride quality. I do notice the truck will downshift a little earlier than before but only when climbing. Once these wear down a bit I'll probably go for a more aggressive wheel and tire combo.

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I just researched these Geolanders, E rated truck tire with good reviews on tire rack. Look good on your LX. They are 56lbs which is about 15lbs over stock 285/50/20's, should change feel and mileage. Obviously fit and you love them can you tell me more about + & - on these? Price is right on tire rack at around $250 each. Would you buy again or would you buy BFG AT KO2's LT "D" rated, say 275/60/20 or 275/55/20 at about the same price and tire weight?

 

[TeCKis300]

Most of the tire's in the 285/55/20 range are $300+, the wild peak A/T3W in that size are only $250. Would you recommend them? Do you think any modes/adjustments would be needed?

I absolutely would recommend them if you're looking for an aggressive AT tire. They are aggressive but they behave more like a mild AT tire.

I posted this in a tire comparison thread :

My vote is still for the Falken AT3Ws that I've recently installed. Great road manners for an aggressive A/T tire.

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
Loving these tires so far. They are very quite, with just a background whoosh on highway speeds. Much like wind noise. An achievement given how deep the tread is (supposedly deepest in the class at 20/32). Rain performance (as we just had a big storm come through) is epic. I was pushing the limits of this over standing water, and not once did I feel these hydroplane or have to really push aside the water. Credit likely goes to the aggressive tread voids. Anecdotal comments say these are also great in snow and ice.
There were a few really standout comments by tire insiders on their vote of confidence for the Wildpeaks.

This post from an insider in another forum, in particular sealed the deal for me:

The AT3W was released on February 1st of this year [2016], however not all sizes have reached the US yet. The new tread design is one of the deepest tread depths on the market and the tires have a border line Mud tire look, while maintaining an excellent A/T on road feel and wear. Much of the technology in this tire is brand new and at the top of the industry, and data is showing that these tires are testing well above our competition, and even above the likes of the heralded KO2. All sizes carry a 55k mile tread warranty including the LT sizes, and all sizes carry the Severe Snow Rating.

Once you see these tires in person you will be impressed. I can go on, but I won't, because you already think I am biased. Just know that I have worked for other manufacturers, and right now, this is what I would put on my 4Runner regardless of my employer.

 

[GordJ]

Michelin AT2's on the LC and the LX LT285/55R20/E Bullet proof and quiet. M+S rated. Great in rain. No rubbing. 10 ply

 

[SWUtah]

Michelin AT2's on the LC and the LX LT285/55R20/E Bullet proof and quiet. M+S rated. Great in rain. No rubbing. 10 ply

How hard is that additional 15lbs of unsprung weight per tire on our LX570 suspension. Think it would cause any accelerated wear on the AVS/AHC? How about bushings??? Or is it not a issue with the additional tire weight?


Do you guys think the 10 ply 285/55/20 tire's that weigh 15lbs more then the stock P rated 285/50/20 tire's Lexus puts on our LX's provide safer driving from punctures and tire failures as well as longer tire life (tread wear)? I don't drive fast I cruise but I want the strongest, safest, tire I can get in a no real aggressive AT. AT2 "E" looks like it would work for a price .

 

[TeCKis300]

Given your stated needs, I think the Michelin AT2's in load range E fits you to a T.

The 15lbs is virtually inconsequential to the suspension. What you'll feel different, if you're sensitive to differences, would be more attributed to: 1) rolling diameter and moment of inertia change and 2) stiffer sidewalls with load range E. The 15 lbs unsprung weight would be a tertiary factor.

The increased diameter effectively reduces numerically the overall gearing of the vehicle by ~4%. Brake leverage likewise decreases by the same amount.

The stiff sidewall may make the ride firmer. But AHC does well with this. Along with the increased sidewall size over stock and the potential to run lower tire pressures, this may not result in much ride quality decrease at all.

 

[BragaLX]

I just researched these Geolanders, E rated truck tire with good reviews on tire rack. Look good on your LX. They are 56lbs which is about 15lbs over stock 285/50/20's, should change feel and mileage. Obviously fit and you love them can you tell me more about + & - on these? Price is right on tire rack at around $250 each. Would you buy again or would you buy BFG AT KO2's LT "D" rated, say 275/60/20 or 275/55/20 at about the same price and tire weight?

I spent lots of time researching and finally ran into this article which turned me on to the Geolanders: Field Tested: Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 My previous truck was a Tacoma and I had 33" BFG KO2s. I liked how aggressive the KO2s were and how they performed off-road but ride quality was a little harsh. I wanted something that would go better with the look of the LX but not compromise on capability. The Geolandar is still a great off-road tire, I've hit a few trails with them and no issues at all. We get a ton of snow here so I was also looking for something with good snow/ice traction. The size 32.6" is about as big as you can go without rubbing in LOW. Before this the LX had some cheap summer tires and I actually noticed improved ride quality and handling (probably because it's an LT and stiffer side walls). I would definitely buy the Geolandars again but I may go more with a more aggressive setup in the future. Which would mean new wheels and going to a more aggressive tire like Duratracs or KO2s. Hope this helps.

 

[SWUtah]

I spent lots of time researching and finally ran into this article which turned me on to the Geolanders: Field Tested: Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 My previous truck was a Tacoma and I had 33" BFG KO2s. I liked how aggressive the KO2s were and how they performed off-road but ride quality was a little harsh. I wanted something that would go better with the look of the LX but not compromise on capability. The Geolandar is still a great off-road tire, I've hit a few trails with them and no issues at all. We get a ton of snow here so I was also looking for something with good snow/ice traction. The size 32.6" is about as big as you can go without rubbing in LOW. Before this the LX had some cheap summer tires and I actually noticed improved ride quality and handling (probably because it's an LT and stiffer side walls). I would definitely buy the Geolandars again but I may go more with a more aggressive setup in the future. Which would mean new wheels and going to a more aggressive tire like Duratracs or KO2s. Hope this helps.

That's interesting I just PMed you to get more input and then saw your post. Thanks
PS- read the review I'm sold.

 

[mtnracer]

I have the tire in my signature: Wildpeak A/T3W in 305/55/20s. These are on the aggressive end in both size, and tread style. More like K02's in aggressiveness. I picked the Falken's as they were very well reviewed by some tire insiders, and quieter than the K02's. With less aggressive (albiet still aggressive) side lugs that fit more with the LX. It also got excellent marks for snow performance.

These are 33.2" tires so require some massaging of the liner to fit without rub. The width also requires a spacer, of which I use 1" all around. Cornering and braking performance are a priority for me. So tire width is an attempt to keep that balance intact, given the tire lift and A/T tread. While also protecting the wheel as it's relatively more inset of the tire sidewalls.

Towing performance and stability is just dandy too.

Looks great. Do the wheels stuff into the wheel wells when flexing the suspension or do they rub on the fenders? What about just going down a curb when the wheel is turned? Any rubbing?

 

[SWUtah]

Michelin AT2's on the LC and the LX LT285/55R20/E Bullet proof and quiet. M+S rated. Great in rain. No rubbing. 10 ply

How many miles how are they wearing

 

[SWUtah]

I spent lots of time researching and finally ran into this article which turned me on to the Geolanders: Field Tested: Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 My previous truck was a Tacoma and I had 33" BFG KO2s. I liked how aggressive the KO2s were and how they performed off-road but ride quality was a little harsh. I wanted something that would go better with the look of the LX but not compromise on capability. The Geolandar is still a great off-road tire, I've hit a few trails with them and no issues at all. We get a ton of snow here so I was also looking for something with good snow/ice traction. The size 32.6" is about as big as you can go without rubbing in LOW. Before this the LX had some cheap summer tires and I actually noticed improved ride quality and handling (probably because it's an LT and stiffer side walls). I would definitely buy the Geolandars again but I may go more with a more aggressive setup in the future. Which would mean new wheels and going to a more aggressive tire like Duratracs or KO2s. Hope this helps.

How many miles you have on your Geos and how are they wearing

 

[BragaLX]

How many miles you have on your Geos and how are they wearing

Hey sorry for the delayed response. It's been probably 10,000 miles since they were installed. I've noticed minimal wear, probably 5-10%. Still really like the tires, yet to see performance in the winter.