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The 2013+ plus LX570 made the list. Hopefully this will drop the prices so I can get me a newer LX570 to compliment the 200.

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These Are The Worst Cars Of The Decade - Jalopnik

Since the calendar (usually) doesn’t lie, and unless you feel like having that tedious argument about how there was no year 0, we have to accept where we’re at: the end of a decade. So, let’s do what has to be done, and call out the worst cars of the two thousand teens. Because someone has to.
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From Jalopnik:
"Man, I really can’t stand this s***box. The LX570 is one of the worst values in all of modern motoring—a $100,000 lumbering mound of bad decisions, excess, and deep insecurities.

It’s heavy, cumbersome, and joyless to drive, has all the interior style of some rich guy’s dad in a bomber jacket and lots of gold chains, has a face that makes a rhinoceros’ anus look appealing, a s***ty UI setup, cramped interior, Starsky and Hutch-era gas mileage, and even if it’s technically a capable off-roader, doing any off-roading beyond parking on your neighbor’s lawn will end up in thousands of dollars of damage to ugly plasticky fake chrome trim s*** all over the car.

This is everything that’s wrong with SUVs, in one expensive, ugly-ass package. Bravo."
 
I agree. The Lexus brand never appealed to me. In recent years it has Has focused on too much farkle to be taken seriously as real workhorse to the everyday person looking for a solid capable machine. I have never come to love the styling of the 570. Which is why the sell in low numbers compared to even a Sequoia

Toyota should 86 the 570 and bring back the true workhorse heritage of the LandCruiser with the 300. focus on bringing the UI Up to par with the other things in the toyota brand (hello CarPlay?!)

anyone who complains about the losing luxury approach of the Lexus brand can go and get the GX or better yet buy an LC for serious work and get an SC coupe for the luxury feeling. “Overalls for work and Bomber Jacket for play”

I get The whole luxury thing, I’ve had BMW M5 and Porsche and even a couple of LR Discovery II’s. and a handful of other BMW - all very capable and luxurious machines, but none of them have given me the utility or pure enjoyment I’ve gotten out of my 100 or 200 trucks (including the M5 which was an amazing car!)
 
I’m sure I’ll get flamed by some here for that post, but it’s just my opinion...
 
It's an opinion. 1 guy.
 
The guy seems like a jackass the way he writes but some good points. Lexus dropped the ball with exterior styling (especially front) on the latest refresh so definitely agree on that. That is a reason why I have bought LC (less flashy and will age better). I wouldn't mind seeing interior of LX on LC. Also don't get why Lexus is forcing premium gas requirement on all Lexuses especially when you have a identical spec brother.
 
This article, and so many others on Jalopnik, screams "I'm going to get attention by pissing everyone off." In an effort to gain clicks to their website. Clickbait garbage.
 
99Cruiser said:
The 2013+ plus LX570 made the list. Hopefully this will drop the prices so I can get me a newer LX570 to compliment the 200.

jalopnik.com

These Are The Worst Cars Of The Decade - Jalopnik

Since the calendar (usually) doesn’t lie, and unless you feel like having that tedious argument about how there was no year 0, we have to accept where we’re at: the end of a decade. So, let’s do what has to be done, and call out the worst cars of the two thousand teens. Because someone has to.
jalopnik.com jalopnik.com

From Jalopnik:
"Man, I really can’t stand this s***box. The LX570 is one of the worst values in all of modern motoring—a $100,000 lumbering mound of bad decisions, excess, and deep insecurities.

It’s heavy, cumbersome, and joyless to drive, has all the interior style of some rich guy’s dad in a bomber jacket and lots of gold chains, has a face that makes a rhinoceros’ anus look appealing, a s***ty UI setup, cramped interior, Starsky and Hutch-era gas mileage, and even if it’s technically a capable off-roader, doing any off-roading beyond parking on your neighbor’s lawn will end up in thousands of dollars of damage to ugly plasticky fake chrome trim s*** all over the car.

This is everything that’s wrong with SUVs, in one expensive, ugly-ass package. Bravo."
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Jalopenik is known for these controversial comments...and many times, very childish writing just to get attention. Occasionally they hit the nail on the head with their articles...but more often than not, they miss the point.

From reading that middle paragraph, it almost seems like he was talking about Escalade. Sorry, i don't see too many LX570 owners in bomber jacket with gold chains.
 
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cboyd said:
Which is why the sell in low numbers compared to even a Sequoia

Toyota should 86 the 570
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Well, doesn't the Land Cruiser even sell less than 570?? Maybe that is why Toyota is 86 the LC?

GX is a lux up 4runner...and is hardly more luxurious than Land Cruiser.

I get where you're coming from...thus, why i own LC. But for me, the LX570 looks good...i was VERY close on getting one. May not age as well (up for debate since i cannot see into future)...but things that are modern or cutting edge in design are tough to design vs. something so bland and conservative like LC. But isn't one of the major complaints here is that the LC looks just like a Highlander? I wouldn't call that aging well either.

So, for average Joe, you want something that stands out that looks polarizing but easily recognizable from far........not something that is just another "Highlander".

The LX certainly has a place. And it seems like its place at least in USA is far more secure than LC.
 
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New LX front end was a deal killer for us. If I was buying a big luxury SUV, I’d take my chances with a Range Rover and lease it. If it was trouble free, then I got lucky and just buy it with the longest warranty possible and make friends with the service manager. The ‘19 LC with its crappy UI doesn’t bother me as I knew going in what to expect from it. The reviewer is correct on a few points of the newer LX. It’s truly behind the times in the 100k suv category regardless of how long it lasts and absolutely stupid it requires premium fuel. But, if someone finds joy in it and they don’t care about certain things the suv may or may not lack, who cares. One reviewer doesn’t mean someone shouldn’t buy it and that site sucks anyways
 
Madtiger said:
Even with the longest warranty, it would be bad idea:

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That’s why I have a 200 parked in my garage and not a RR 😉. I’m getting older and must think long term with my vehicles so I can actually retire without any kind of debt. LC for life 😊 I don’t have time to waste at the service center every month. 😂
 
Nearly EVERY LX570 has been negative. The only exceptions are the shill accounts propping up sales. Most of those don't really even hide the fact they are associated with Toyota or Lexus.

What's interesting to me is how superficial they all are. I challenge you to find a review that really digs deeply into the history/tech of AHC and the reasons for building on the LC heritage and reliability. Sure they all have an obligatory one-liner about the "LC brother" but very few correlate this to a rugged and reliable luxury vehicle. Watch some Russian LX youtube videos. Those guys know how to beat the s*** out of a vehicle, and they love them.

As a side note, after 2021, the LX will probably be based on the Tundra platform, and if I had to guess, will lose expensive subsystems like AHC in favor of other suspension systems. Citroen, the founders and developers of AHC, finally caved to market economics in 2016 and stopped development of the hydraulic suspension systems after nearly 70 years. Not because it was bad, but because it cost too much.

I can't predict the future, but all of this seems like the recipe of a very desirable vehicle in 10 to 20 years. Limited production, bulletproof design, amazing tech, and completely misunderstood.
 
tincan45 said:
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As a side note, after 2021, the LX will probably be based on the Tundra platform, and if I had to guess, will lose expensive subsystems like AHC in favor of other suspension systems. Citroen, the founders and developers of AHC, finally caved to market economics in 2016 and stopped development of the hydraulic suspension systems after nearly 70 years. Not because it was bad, but because it cost too much.
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This also seems highly likely to me as well for cost of production and market impact. I guess it wont be an LX570, but an LX of some kind.

I think this would also give the differentiation between the LX and the Land Cruiser that I think Toyota is struggling to make. i Just cannot see them trying keep up market share with two 90K+ SUVs in the same class and pointed at the same addressable market. At some point economics will win their customers will vote with their wallets...

also agree with other’s points on the Jalopnik style of clickbait with these kinds of articles, but for me it did hit a nerve.
 
Madtiger said:
Well, doesn't the Land Cruiser even sell less than 570?? Maybe that is why Toyota is 86 the LC?

GX is a lux up 4runner...and is hardly more luxurious than Land Cruiser.

I get where you're coming from...thus, why i own LC. But for me, the LX570 looks good...i was VERY close on getting one. May not age as well (up for debate since i cannot see into future)...but things that are modern or cutting edge in design are tough to design vs. something so bland and conservative like LC. But isn't one of the major complaints here is that the LC looks just like a Highlander? I wouldn't call that aging well either.

So, for average Joe, you want something that stands out that looks polarizing but easily recognizable from far........not something that is just another "Highlander".

The LX certainly has a place. And it seems like its place at least in USA is far more secure than LC.
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Yes, LX sales outpace LC sales each year. Still very low numbers, neither has broken 10K since 2000. I wouldn't put much into a Jaloponik review. The LX leaves a bit to be desired but I certainly enjoy mine (2013, first year of decline apparently) Even by 2013 standards it is long in the tooth, however being an LC underneath and the addition of AHC is what I really like about it. I have no need or desire to lift it so the AHC is just fine.

While the front end of the 2013 is not great it is slightly better than the refreshed LX front end.

For sure both trucks are too expensive when viewed by the average "Luxury" SUV buyers. Most luxury SUV buyers couldn't care less about body on frame, Crawl Control, MTS, etc. (hell even 4LO wouldn't matter to most) High price combined with seemingly un-luxury features like the dated infotainment systems seem to have combined to doom sales of both trucks.
 
Toyota needs to bring in a lower trim level Land Cruiser and sales would go up. They miss it in I get leather and every power goodie known when I don't need or want them. Lexus has missed the mark before. Top Gear voted the Lexus SC430 the worse car. It still had a cassette player in 2010.
 
tincan45 said:
Nearly EVERY LX570 has been negative. The only exceptions are the shill accounts propping up sales. Most of those don't really even hide the fact they are associated with Toyota or Lexus.

What's interesting to me is how superficial they all are. I challenge you to find a review that really digs deeply into the history/tech of AHC and the reasons for building on the LC heritage and reliability. Sure they all have an obligatory one-liner about the "LC brother" but very few correlate this to a rugged and reliable luxury vehicle. Watch some Russian LX youtube videos. Those guys know how to beat the s*** out of a vehicle, and they love them.

As a side note, after 2021, the LX will probably be based on the Tundra platform, and if I had to guess, will lose expensive subsystems like AHC in favor of other suspension systems. Citroen, the founders and developers of AHC, finally caved to market economics in 2016 and stopped development of the hydraulic suspension systems after nearly 70 years. Not because it was bad, but because it cost too much.

I can't predict the future, but all of this seems like the recipe of a very desirable vehicle in 10 to 20 years. Limited production, bulletproof design, amazing tech, and completely misunderstood.
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It's about what turns you on about a vehicle. Mine, quality, durability, exclusive (don't see it every time I drive down the road) This thing is a beast but it looks like it's just a pretty face (yes I think the 13-15 are the best looking 200 series) plus the hydrolic suspension is more robust then any modded suspension you could afford to put on any 200 series LC. It will last me the remainder of my life. Love reading reviews on the LX, I always keep reading until they mention the "air suspension" 😳 Then I quit reading
 
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