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Hey guys, I'm currently not a yota owner, but looking into getting myself a rig this summer, and I want to see what you guys recommend... I currently own a BMW (e30), and an old Peugeot that my dad and I have been restoring together for years.

I basically want something that I can take camping, bring my bikes in, surfboard, road-trips, and the occasional trail-going. Not to mention I need it for the utility aspect, for moving my stuff up and down the Californian coast every year.

I have wanted an fj60 since I was a child. In my opinion, they are one the best-looking 4x4's ever produced. I am currently looking (passively) for a nice Fj60 to purchase. I'm a college student, so my budget is sorta tight (~$5k). I was wondering if decent examples even go for prices like this, these days. I want a rust-free cruiser, but other than that, I really don't have any preferences. Manual tranny would be nice, but with my budget, a beggar can't be a chooser.

So while an fj60/62 is my first choice, I'm wondering what ih8mud recommends. Obviously, the choices would be between the 60-series, 80-series, and the gen 2 4-runner.

Thanks!
 
Here is the issue that you will find with being in Commi-fornia... SMOG/CARB. These trucks are notorious for not smogging and probably half that you will find on CL will say something to the sort "buyer is responsible for smog" which is illegal in Cali.

For your price, you can pick up a decent cruiser, however the smog and rust may pose a challenge at that price range. If you are planning on using it as a commuter then I would start with a 2nd gen 4Runner with a 4banger as you will get better gas mileage (remember these things get 12-15mpg standard when they are running well). Don't take this as trying to chase you away from them but the reality is that they are gas guzzlers, can be hard to smog, and prone to rust if not well taken care of.

BUT conversely they are GREAT trucks, and really are made for exactly what you are thinking of doing whether it be the 60 or 62. If you are using it to go up and down the coast a lot then the 62 may be better as the OD helps on the freeways (my 60 hits 70mph max at about 3500rpm if I am pushing it on the flats in 4th). As a college student with a budget you really need think what is going to be most economical for you, now if you keep the E30 and just use the 60/62 for fun stuff then by all means!!!
 
I think you can get into a decent FJ60 for around $5K +/-. Be patient, be prepared to let some go, and keep in mind that many 60 series wagons that come up for sale on Craigslist in CA are dramatically overpriced by deeply attached or deeply delusional owners. They often start at $10K and find themselves unsold and chipped away to $5K a few months later. The truck I now own was $8000 the first time I saw it listed and I got it for around half that 6 months later. I hate to wish that scenario on any fellow cruiser-owner parting with his vehicle but it's something I've seen over and over.

Yes, smog can be a pain, but the seller has to get it passed in order to change hands in CA, at which point you have 2 years to be in denial about having to do it yourself

No it won't be completely rust-free at that price point, but that won't make it any less fun to drive

And yes you will have to spend some time/money tinkering with it, but you probably already knew that.


An example right here on 'Mud - not affiliated, but he's asking $6K OBO and looks like a fun truck. AND it's tan.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/fj60-fj62-bj60-hj61/702303-85-fj60.html

Good luck-
DF
 
I live in So Cal and just got my first FJ60 about three weeks ago. It runs good, passed smog with flying colors, no real rust issues and needs a bunch of minor cosmetic issues. $4900

With that said, I know it has a small exhaust leak, a tiny oil leak (2-3 drops right after driving only) and steering feels a tad loose. It also may be just me not use to driving an older truck.

Like others have said, I walked away from a few others due to either rust, not well hidden issues or just appeared to need more work for about the same price. You CAN find one but you may have to drive a couple hours to get it. I was lucky enough to find mine about 15 mins away from where I live. Be PATIENT. Remember, the longer you wait, the more money you should have saved which means you'll have extra $$ to start restoring. Good luck
 
I do not know the California emission laws but if your a serious buyer then check out the arizona Craigslist ads for a 60. It likely a long day trip to come and get it but may be worth the time. With what you listed as wants and expectations of your LC, I would likely look for a 62. A little more up to date and modern. I found there to be more for sale too
 
$5000 is a legitmate price point to be looking at.

I got this truck for $5k.

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Off craigslist, sight unseen (well my father in law checked it out for me) and have been very happy with it. So they're out there.

I don't know if it would have passed CA smog 'cause I bought it as a project (BUILD THREAD). But there was minimal rust, it drove from SD to OR without issue (well, no A/C in August is an issue but you get the point), and I've found it to be pretty damn clean as I've torn it all the way down to the bearings.

If you're restoring a Peugot then you should survive tinkering with a L/C. Read the FAQ and the 'which to buy...' section and you'll be much better armed.

There is more knowledge on this board than you could ever hope for, but remember FAQ and search will get you a lot of answers. Good luck, TDC.-
 
A few things. I'm no CA smog expert, but I thought that when you buy a rig in CA, that it was the seller's responsibility to pass smog. Could totally be wrong, but that's what it was when I left CA 17 years ago.

Sounds like you know what you are getting into. However, you need to be realistic about what you are getting. Make sure you budget for some repairs. In other words, save some of the money to fix the things that need fixing after you buy it. And take your time and get the right rig. It may take a little time and effort, but it will be worth it.

You do know about the poor mileage, right? ;)
 
Do yourself a smog favor and get an FJ62.

The EFI passes smog easily, the FJ60 with it's carburetor is a crapshoot. Trust me, I've been dealing with this for 10 years and am sick of it. The 62 also starts easier, has significantly more power. It's a better all around truck.

The most appealing feature of an FJ60 is the manual transmission, which can be added to an FJ62 making it the perfect FJ6X.

While technically, it is the sellers responsibility to smog, as long as both parties agree, you can sell without smogging and make it the new owners responsibility.
 
Have you considered a 2nd generation pickup with a shell? Sleep in the bed, haul bikes off the back, put surf boards on top. 22RE with a 5spd is much cheaper to own and operate than a Cruiser.
 
I've got a friend getting ready to sell his 83 or 85 white FJ60. It's going through emissions stuff right now before he puts it up for sale. His name is bsquared and he plays in the 40 series section. I've looked at it up close and it's pretty pristine. PM him.

He's in San Diego too.
 
Well... This is my first post here! Been scanning threads like mad since I decided to take a neighbor up on their offer to buy their beige '83 Cruiser for $700. Never had one. It's been sitting for two years, has the rust on the rear wheel wells, a bit on the front corners behind the bumper, a quarter size rust hole in the tailgate, and various spots here and there. Utah rust. 164K miles, new BFG ATs, that tear in the drivers seat (usual I guess from pics I've seen around here). I'll have a few days where it sits to change the oil, air and fuel filters. Check the fluids.
I hope this thing fires up... I'm going to throw in about two gallons of premium and a bit of gas treatment. I'm committed to about $3K of work.
Any suggestions?
 
Well... This is my first post here! Been scanning threads like mad since I decided to take a neighbor up on their offer to buy their beige '83 Cruiser for $700. Never had one. It's been sitting for two years, has the rust on the rear wheel wells, a bit on the front corners behind the bumper, a quarter size rust hole in the tailgate, and various spots here and there. Utah rust. 164K miles, new BFG ATs, that tear in the drivers seat (usual I guess from pics I've seen around here). I'll have a few days where it sits to change the oil, air and fuel filters. Check the fluids.
I hope this thing fires up... I'm going to throw in about two gallons of premium and a bit of gas treatment. I'm committed to about $3K of work.
Any suggestions?

That's sick! I first fell in love with the 60 series up in Utah (dad's from Logan). We were visiting some family friends down in Torrey (en route to Moab) and I got to drive their pair of trucks (one fj60, and fj62) out in the desert.

I've got a friend getting ready to sell his 83 or 85 white FJ60. It's going through emissions stuff right now before he puts it up for sale. His name is bsquared and he plays in the 40 series section. I've looked at it up close and it's pretty pristine. PM him.

He's in San Diego too.

Appreciate the offer, but looking for just about every color except white :D. First choice is the brown mahogany (same as our old Camry we had as a child), but I'm open to just about anything but white. Repaint isn't an issue for me as I have a good friend who's got a shop, but the whole color change would be an issue.

Have you considered a 2nd generation pickup with a shell? Sleep in the bed, haul bikes off the back, put surf boards on top. 22RE with a 5spd is much cheaper to own and operate than a Cruiser.

Thought it about for a bit. A lot of the time when I travel on road trips I gotta go with the homies. Every June when school gets out, we hit up hwy 1, camp in big sur, and go surfing all along the coast. We do this in my little 4-door Bimmer..and between the 4 of us, the boards on top, and all the crap in the trunk, my car takes a lot of abuse - more than what it's meant to take :frown:

Do yourself a smog favor and get an FJ62.

The EFI passes smog easily, the FJ60 with it's carburetor is a crapshoot. Trust me, I've been dealing with this for 10 years and am sick of it. The 62 also starts easier, has significantly more power. It's a better all around truck.

The most appealing feature of an FJ60 is the manual transmission, which can be added to an FJ62 making it the perfect FJ6X.

While technically, it is the sellers responsibility to smog, as long as both parties agree, you can sell without smogging and make it the new owners responsibility.

This is great knowledge, and for that I thank you. Personally, I prefer the 62 front end, and again, while the manual would be nice - I don't mind the auto if it's more practical in terms of $$$.

$5000 is a legitmate price point to be looking at.

I got this truck for $5k.



If you're restoring a Peugot then you should survive tinkering with a L/C. Read the FAQ and the 'which to buy...' section and you'll be much better armed.

It looked familiar! Like I said, I've been lurking on CL for quite some time now. I remember seeing this car up on the SD Area Craigs last year. Quite the deal if you'd ask me...

And in regards to wrenchin', I can say that Peugeot ownership has prepared me for the worst. :D Some of the s*** you encounter while working on an old Peugeot makes you wonder how drunk of wine the engineers were when they built back in the 80s.


I think you can get into a decent FJ60 for around $5K +/-. Be patient, be prepared to let some go, and keep in mind that many 60 series wagons that come up for sale on Craigslist in CA are dramatically overpriced by deeply attached or deeply delusional owners. They often start at $10K and find themselves unsold and chipped away to $5K a few months later. The truck I now own was $8000 the first time I saw it listed and I got it for around half that 6 months later. I hate to wish that scenario on any fellow cruiser-owner parting with his vehicle but it's something I've seen over and over.

Yes, smog can be a pain, but the seller has to get it passed in order to change hands in CA, at which point you have 2 years to be in denial about having to do it yourself

No it won't be completely rust-free at that price point, but that won't make it any less fun to drive

And yes you will have to spend some time/money tinkering with it, but you probably already knew that.


An example right here on 'Mud - not affiliated, but he's asking $6K OBO and looks like a fun truck. AND it's tan.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/fj60-fj62-bj60-hj61/702303-85-fj60.html

Good luck-
DF

Definitely gonna take my time on this one. BTW, whereabouts Oakland are you? I've really only seen a handful of fj60s up in the bay. I grew up in Alameda/Oakland and the Peninsula and never saw too many. Also, know of any good local off road trails?


Thanks again everyone,
Sina
 
Well... This is my first post here! Been scanning threads like mad since I decided to take a neighbor up on their offer to buy their beige '83 Cruiser for $700. Never had one. It's been sitting for two years, has the rust on the rear wheel wells, a bit on the front corners behind the bumper, a quarter size rust hole in the tailgate, and various spots here and there. Utah rust. 164K miles, new BFG ATs, that tear in the drivers seat (usual I guess from pics I've seen around here). I'll have a few days where it sits to change the oil, air and fuel filters. Check the fluids.
I hope this thing fires up... I'm going to throw in about two gallons of premium and a bit of gas treatment. I'm committed to about $3K of work.
Any suggestions?

Motomanslc I am also in Utah. I live in sandy actually. I have tons of extra parts pm me for my number. It would be nice to meet another cruiser dude!
 
Do yourself a smog favor and get an FJ62.

The EFI passes smog easily, the FJ60 with it's carburetor is a crapshoot. Trust me, I've been dealing with this for 10 years and am sick of it. The 62 also starts easier, has significantly more power. It's a better all around truck.

The most appealing feature of an FJ60 is the manual transmission, which can be added to an FJ62 making it the perfect FJ6X.

While technically, it is the sellers responsibility to smog, as long as both parties agree, you can sell without smogging and make it the new owners responsibility.

I can't let this one go by! The manual tranny is just one of the more appealing features of the 60. Round headlights, manual windows, lower gears all come to mind.

Here's some turn about. The most appealing feature of the FJ62 is the EFI, which you can add to an FJ60 making it the perfect FJ6x.

:D
 
Motomanslc I am also in Utah. I live in sandy actually. I have tons of extra parts pm me for my number. It would be nice to meet another cruiser dude!

Good to know. It's up on ramps now so I can get under it. Looks like there is oil all over the front of the oil pan,... gasket was changed by some shop some time ago, (according to random receipts in the glove box) could have been done wrong. One knuckle was done in '08 by Cruiser Outfitters, Clutch at 110K miles, passed smog each time with flying colors since 2000. Excited to fire it up in the next day or so! The bushings on the front shackles are splitting, in general all bushings are pretty dry. Need to pick up a few more tools!
 
I can't let this one go by! The manual tranny is just one of the more appealing features of the 60. Round headlights, manual windows, lower gears all come to mind.

Here's some turn about. The most appealing feature of the FJ62 is the EFI, which you can add to an FJ60 making it the perfect FJ6x.

:D

He already stated a preference for the 62 front end. Also, the 60 has taller gears, not lower ones.

But, sounds like he's got a lead on a nice 60. The oil build up may not indicate current leaks. Mine kinda looks like that, but does not leak.
 
I can't let this one go by! The manual tranny is just one of the more appealing features of the 60. Round headlights, manual windows, lower gears all come to mind.

Here's some turn about. The most appealing feature of the FJ62 is the EFI, which you can add to an FJ60 making it the perfect FJ6x.

:D

Don't 62's have the lower gears?
 
Don't 62's have the lower gears?

Yes-

FJ60-3.70

FJ62-4.11

Just for the record, it is way easier to put a manual tranny in an FJ62 than to put EFI in an FJ60. Plus, in California, you would still need to take a converted FJ60 through the referee process which is a head ache and a crap shoot.

Both great trucks, and I like the round eyes too, but having lived with both trucks for an extended period, FJ62 has enough going for it to make it a significantly better Land Cruiser.
 

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