List of ARB bumper compatible winches?
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Most winches will fit into the ARB. Really small ones won't have the right bolt patten, but you're unlikely to consider them out of sheer commonsense. Huge commercial winches are also obviously out. If you want a Warn 8274, it can be done, usually easiest to start start with the ARB commercial bumper.
Everything in between fits, one way or the other. We're talking planetary drive winches in most cases, from 8,000 to 12,000 lb capacity. The ARB was designed for the OOP Warn M10000, so anything of its dimensions down will definitely work. You will need a set of spacers for many of these winches, inc the M10000, and for anything bigger.
The spacers are the key here. There is a small area in the middle of the bumper where the winch feet mount behind. The bumper then angles back. That is where you may run into inference, because as they angle back, they may contact the ends of the motor or gear casing on either end of the winch. Without spacers, as you tighten the mounting bolts you'll eventually break the housing.
To make winches fit, you add enough spacer so that each end of the winch clears the inside of the bumper when the mounting bolts are tight.
Here's a pic of the ARB spacers, although you can make your own or get them cheaper elsewhere
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Everything in between fits, one way or the other. We're talking planetary drive winches in most cases, from 8,000 to 12,000 lb capacity. The ARB was designed for the OOP Warn M10000, so anything of its dimensions down will definitely work. You will need a set of spacers for many of these winches, inc the M10000, and for anything bigger.
The spacers are the key here. There is a small area in the middle of the bumper where the winch feet mount behind. The bumper then angles back. That is where you may run into inference, because as they angle back, they may contact the ends of the motor or gear casing on either end of the winch. Without spacers, as you tighten the mounting bolts you'll eventually break the housing.
To make winches fit, you add enough spacer so that each end of the winch clears the inside of the bumper when the mounting bolts are tight.
Here's a pic of the ARB spacers, although you can make your own or get them cheaper elsewhere
Mine is a bit different since my ARB bumper has been modded but this winch will still work without mods, but will require clocking of the winch motor so it can be mounted feet forward. My modded bumper has a feet down mounting plate so I didn't need to clock the winch motor.
I'm using the COMEUP SEAL 9.5s
I'm using the COMEUP SEAL 9.5s
Adam,
Nice looking "face" to world you have there.
Personally, like you I don't consider "clocking" a planetary winch as a mod. Instructions on how to do it are typically supplied with the winch or search in the Recovery forum cited above. This allows the feet to be positioned properly, plus puts the clutch handle where it works best for the installation.
The "feet down" mount is preferred by some and most winches are OK mounted like that. Check the docs with the specific model winch to confirm. Engineering wise, the "feet first" is typically the strongest mount, because there is no sideways force being applied to the feet. It's all compressive force, which metal resists well. The ARB is set up for feet first mounting, but the winch mounting plate from HF and others can be used if the OP wants "feet down." Winches tend to come from the factory set-up as "feet down" -- I think mainly because so many get slapped on Jeeps they just avoid confusing that bunch about clocking, etc by making the Jeep way the default out of the box condition to keep things simple.
Nice looking "face" to world you have there.
Personally, like you I don't consider "clocking" a planetary winch as a mod. Instructions on how to do it are typically supplied with the winch or search in the Recovery forum cited above. This allows the feet to be positioned properly, plus puts the clutch handle where it works best for the installation.
The "feet down" mount is preferred by some and most winches are OK mounted like that. Check the docs with the specific model winch to confirm. Engineering wise, the "feet first" is typically the strongest mount, because there is no sideways force being applied to the feet. It's all compressive force, which metal resists well. The ARB is set up for feet first mounting, but the winch mounting plate from HF and others can be used if the OP wants "feet down." Winches tend to come from the factory set-up as "feet down" -- I think mainly because so many get slapped on Jeeps they just avoid confusing that bunch about clocking, etc by making the Jeep way the default out of the box condition to keep things simple.
Yes the COMEUP included instructions for clocking the winch motor. Simple enough for feet forward mounting. I used the HF mounting plate for mine.
i've got an m15000 in mine. m12000 is the same body
no spacers needed on mine.
no spacers needed on mine.
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feet down may be a very bad idea depending on the winch construction. Picture pulling in shear with 12,000 lbs of force on 4 bolts that are threaded in soft aluminum...
Best to look at instructions or call tech support. If they say feet forward I would not do feet down regardless of what plate etc convenience may be available or what spacers may be otherwise needed. The issue is likely not the plate or the bolts, it's the winch body/feet that may let go!
And yes, the Warn M12000 fits just fine without any spacer etc in an ARB Deluxe on my 97. It will give you a hernia, though... and sag your springs too while lifting up your spirits...
Best to look at instructions or call tech support. If they say feet forward I would not do feet down regardless of what plate etc convenience may be available or what spacers may be otherwise needed. The issue is likely not the plate or the bolts, it's the winch body/feet that may let go!
And yes, the Warn M12000 fits just fine without any spacer etc in an ARB Deluxe on my 97. It will give you a hernia, though... and sag your springs too while lifting up your spirits...
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Unless ARB has changed the design of the cradle over the years, the original M10K and newer M12K winches have never required spacers to fit. They bolt right in.
anyone using this Warn 89611 ZEON 10-S with ARB?
MileMarker 10,500lbs hydraulic fits fine, no modification needed.
I have a Warn XD9000i in mine. Feet mounted forward and using the ARB Spacers, and if I remember 4 washers (?).
Jon,
Maybe I'm just recalling it wrong and the spacers are for winches other than the M10000?
Never had one to try.In any case, better to have spacers and not need them, than no spacers and a broken winch. The need for clearance at the ends of the winch is a matter to make sure you resolve before you install any planetary winch feet first in the ARB.