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I have 31X10.5 15” General Grabber LT on my PZJ70 (on FJ40 steel rims). Installed by previous owner.

Will be going to 16” rims once these tires wear out.
 
My BJ75 Troopy sits on 235/85 R16 tires mounted on split rims. Perfect solution.


He he he. Lovely. Two brand new Michelin tires went flat on me when I drove my truck home 750 miles, likely due to improper installation of the tube. They were both destroyed. Now I run tubeless, because, well, it may be safer. And because it's 2019.
 
I now also run 235's. They are perfect.

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I run 235/85R16 also. Currently Duratracs in E-rated. I love them. They're an excellent road tire, good for towing, super tough and it's down right amazing where I can get with them. They're also very affordable and available everywhere. Really they're the perfect all round or expedition tire. Not perfect for hardcore wheeling, but then you're looking at needing a 35"+ tire with lots of other modifications.
 
On my KZJ 73 I run 255/85 R16 BFG MT KM2, in conjunction with 4,88 diff's. The speedometer shows the GPS speed +/- 1%, so very accurate.
Below a pic taken during a test run of my racing KZJ73, the BFG's were 50%-60% worn out and inflated at 2bar (29-30 PSI)
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And some R16 metric equivalence to R15 inch size:
- 255/85 R16 matches 33/10,5 R15 (in fact they are slightly narrower)
- 235/85 R16 matches 32/9,5 R15
- 285/75 R16 matches 33/11,5 R15
 
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My BJ75 Troopy sits on 235/85 R16 tires mounted on split rims. Perfect solution.



I did not realize you could mount a conventional bias-ply tire on a split rim. Any issues at tire shops or with servicing?
 
I did not realize you could mount a conventional bias-ply tire on a split rim. Any issues at tire shops or with servicing?
Why would you want to run a split rim? Good boat moorings. Why would there be issues, its what the new 7* series come fitted with?
 
I did not realize you could mount a conventional bias-ply tire on a split rim. Any issues at tire shops or with servicing?
Why would you want to run a split rim? Good boat moorings. Why would there be issues, its what the new 7* series come fitted with?
 
Why would you want to run a split rim? Good boat moorings. Why would there be issues, its what the new 7* series come fitted with?
I don’t want to run a split rim. But as you mention, the 7* series come fitted with split rims.

So if I want to replace the tubed tires with conventional tubeless, do I need to buy new (non-split rim) wheels too?

Edit: Apologies, I reviewed my earlier posts and realized I was using the wrong terminology (radial vs bias ply) and I should have been saying “tubed vs tubeless”. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Split rims need tubes, regardless of tire type—the rims are not airtight (because they’re split).

You can run modern, normally tubeless tires on a split rim, bias ply or radial, but only if you use inner tubes with them.

If you want to run tires without inner tubes, yes, you’d need to replace the split rims with conventional “tubeless” type wheels like the OEM Toyota ones mentioned above.
 
I can see split rims being the advantage if you are stranded out somewhere. All you need is a patch repair kit, air compressor and some basic tools. New spare tubes wouldn’t hurt either. Maybe that is why they still come on UN spec 70 series trucks?

I never worked on a Toyota split rim but have worked on other split rims way back years ago when I worked at discount tire. Mostly construction and farm equipment split rims. They are pretty easy but can be dangerous and ideally should be inflated in a cage if possible.

I wonder if discount tire still works on them now that it is being discussed here. Before I left I heard that the management there was considering discontinuing working on them along with other rims such as low rider wire wheels.
 
Last I tried, which was several years ago now, none of the chain tire shops like Discount, Big O, Les Schwab, etc would even touch a split rim. Even the small mom and pop shops were wary of them. I found a place that deals with agricultural equipment and big rigs that would do it.
 
Split rims need tubes, regardless of tire type—the rims are not airtight (because they’re split).

You can run modern, normally tubeless tires on a split rim, bias ply or radial, but only if you use inner tubes with them.

If you want to run tires without inner tubes, yes, you’d need to replace the split rims with conventional “tubeless” type wheels like the OEM Toyota ones mentioned above.
That answers my question. Thank you.
I can see split rims being the advantage if you are stranded out somewhere. All you need is a patch repair kit, air compressor and some basic tools. New spare tubes wouldn’t hurt either. Maybe that is why they still come on UN spec 70 series trucks?

I never worked on a Toyota split rim but have worked on other split rims way back years ago when I worked at discount tire. Mostly construction and farm equipment split rims. They are pretty easy but can be dangerous and ideally should be inflated in a cage if possible.

I wonder if discount tire still works on them now that it is being discussed here. Before I left I heard that the management there was considering discontinuing working on them along with other rims such as low rider wire wheels.
Good question.

I love Discount Tire. I consistently receive good service and I feel like their team members are working hard to add value to my transactions.

I have noticed Discount Tire is really strict about liability though. They won’t mount oversized “wide” tires on narrow wheels (33”x10.5”x15” tire on an FJ40 wheel, for example). I would be surprised if they still worked on split rims.
 
I can see split rims being the advantage if you are stranded out somewhere.


Yes and no. You can get tyre pliers that will remove a tubeless tyre on the side of the road. The other reason, according to a tyre store, is that modern tubes are not the quality they used to be and much of the time they are destroyed when punctured.
And when modern tubeless tyres get punctured, its easy to plug them.
Toyota only fit them to base models these days, although you can order a GXL 7* series with them if you want.
Other reasons not to have splits rims-
Is they are hard to balance
They rust on the inside
They ride rough compared to a tubeless
They run hotter due to the tube rubbing on the inside.

I had them once but I would never go back.

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I just stopped at a local petrol station to check my bike tyres and noticed that they don't allow you to inflate tyres on split rims with their air.
 
It is 2021. If you get a flat, you can get a tow to a place that can service a tubeless tire. If you travel outside of these areas, you probably bring a spare with you.

If you live in a developing country, your days are numbered when your split rip is still valuable.

I also noticed that tire shops in the USA don't touch split rims. They can split you in half.
 
I would side with Onur on this one with one exception. I’d go with the Toyo RT‘s. The Toyo’s are great tires.
 

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