I’ve been on a 800 mile road trip so far.
Interstate 79 mph. 19.5
Today backroads. Under 70. 21 mpg
Interstate 79 mph. 19.5
Today backroads. Under 70. 21 mpg
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What are you guys getting around town? It would seem that is where the battery would help the most to improve mpg.
At the moment 18-19 mpg right now with heavy foot around town. Common misconception with the “I-force max” hybrid setups is a vast improvement over a non-hybrid setup. The hybrid drive units goal is to aid in overall output.
The I-force max is a series hybrid. Other models such as Prius, Rav4 and Highlander are parallel hybrid systems.
One thing I’ve noticed after 6 months in a new hybrid Highlander is that the mpg improved over several months until it stabilized. I don’t know if this is the driver or optimization by the ECU. We started out in the low 30’s and are now getting 39 mpg. This is anecdotal n=1 and wonder if anyone else has experience this and if the 250 will show something similar.
That's why I think it's hard to understand the logic except the inverter part (which is great IMO). It doesn't have enough battery to provide more than small bursts. So doesn't really help with the things where power would help like towing. It just makes for a slightly quicker here 0 to 60 in a vehicle where 0-60 doesn't matter. I think I'd rather not have it. Even if was a free option. It's not worth the space and 600lbs if it doesn't do anything useful.
In the tundra without the inverter option - I would definitely choose to not have it. I'm not sure why anyone would buy it in a tundra. It does nothing.
I really like hybrids BTW. I'm just not really understanding the value in this case if it's 10% less efficient and less powerful than a full size truck. An electric drive that improves by 3-5 mpg over the full size trucks would be great. Otherwise a 5500lb suv might be better served with a fuel efficient turbo 6.
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Over 1,500 miles of city driving, mpg reads 21.7 on average for the miles driven so far. On par with what’s advertised.
Most of this is city driving with lots of stop lights in the 30-35mpg driving range. Plus giving it the beans a few times to see the power in this thing.
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I understand the series system. But even so, stop and go traffic should be where the hybrid really shines if driven accordingly. 18-19 with a heavy foot seems pretty good. If you’re spooling up that turbo all the time you’re going to use the fuel. Zill’s post above shows more promise. I can drop the MPG 20-30% in town with our other turbo vehicles if I’m constantly in the skinny pedal.
To add - that’s with the vehicle on Tow Haul mode most of the time, so the auto engine start stop system is cancelled. If I wanted to use the start stop system, it would probably be in the mid 22 range.
The battery torque takes most of the abuse when starting from a dead stop, and we are rarely in the turbos for city driving. If we did, we would be ramming the cars in front of us.
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That data supports my expectations. And yah start stop
hate that in my wife’s car. Can be downright dangerous when you need to move.
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Every time I start the 200, I hit the heated steering wheel button, but now in the 250 since the heated steering wheel stays on, I replaced that button push with the tow haul mode button.
Mr. T fixed one thing, but broke the other haha.
I just have to laugh.That data supports my expectations. And yah start stop
Every time I start the 200, I hit the heated steering wheel button, but now in the 250 since the heated steering wheel stays on, I replaced that button push with the tow haul mode button.
Mr. T fixed one thing, but broke the other haha.
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Oregon to San Francisco ~23.9 mpg, going w/ the flow of traffic. Flow of traffic was anywhere from the speed limit and above 
less than 50% above.
I didn't draft as much as I normally do, I'm pretty happy w/ the Fuel Economy. I figure if I draft like I normally do when we convoy on trips, I'll be hitting 26-27mpg no problem.
less than 50% above.I didn't draft as much as I normally do, I'm pretty happy w/ the Fuel Economy. I figure if I draft like I normally do when we convoy on trips, I'll be hitting 26-27mpg no problem.
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This thread looks like something from the Prius forums.
*wait til we figure out how to hyper mile this sumbich
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I really wish Toyota continued development of the Inline-6 like BMW has.
Start and Stop in a BMW w/o a hybrid system is a fair bit smoother since the inline 6 engine design is inherently balanced.
In the past, 1JZ-GTEs, 2.5L Inline-6 Cast Iron Block Engines, can do 400 HP reliably on stock internals, built they were upwards in the high 600s. BMW's steel sleeved aluminum block/head B58 has proven itself in the Supra, the Grenadier, and numerous BMW platforms, but not only that, Inline 6-cylinder engines sound great.
A modern offering from Toyota would at worst match BMW, at best, it would be superior in reliability, include modern day technology advancement accoutrement such as plasma or Pre-Chamber/Turbulent Jet Ignition (From F1).
That said, cruising at high speed along I-5 in 105°F weather and multiple mountain passes, no cooling system issues, so at least Toyota got that right.
I with they would just go with a 5 cylinder engine with an electric turbo. They are mathematically perfectly balanced, and the electric turbo with hybrid can make the power curve perfect.
They still have imperfect primary and secondary balance due to firing order. Since the engine is a longitudinal application, the space savings aren't necessary.
Also, the counter-balance necessary on the crankshaft reduces efficiency (though not as much as say a whole nuther cylinder in an inline-6), good call for alternative tech.
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I can’t wait to park mine in some of the local “Fuel efficient vehicle only” spots we have on city owned properties. (Reality is I’ll park my 80-series in those spots anyway just to piss people off. It’s public parking)
That's not bad. I expect on the interstate at a steady 75 mph you should do over 21.
I just did a 200 mile trip on interstates in my 2020 LX. I was driving a pretty steady 70 mph and got 18.7 mpg, which seems to be a touch better than my old 2013 LC. City mpg, on the other hand, is still pretty atrocious in the 570.
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Glad to see you got the new truck my good man. 
. Congratulations, the white one ?
Happy to see MPG real life posted here... Let's see if it increases with time !
No L250 here yet, but landed yet another LC80 
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. Congratulations, the white one ? Happy to see MPG real life posted here... Let's see if it increases with time !
No L250 here yet, but landed yet another LC80
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Yup. Official LX570s Picture Thread - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/official-lx570s-picture-thread.1006565/page-246#post-15513759Glad to see you got the new truck my good man.
