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Hi,

I've been searching for information on Land rover/Landcruiser hybrids and haven't had much luck.

I'm planning to graft a long wheel base Land Rover body onto an 80 series Landcruiser chassis, using all the Landcruiser running gear, engine, gearbox and most of the electrics.

I'm guessing that someone has done this before and probably had a thread on it somewhere.

Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers, Graham
 
I've seen a write up on one somewhere - will see if I can track it down...

More common to see folks hack apart a RR Classic and install a Series body on that - makes for a decent trail truck. More akin to a newer Defender that way - and you still get to keep all that Rover junk ;-)

Know of someone who recently did an SOA on his 88" using FJ40 axles - seeing as how the Rover weights next to nothing and he's primarily a mudder running 36" - 38" tires - pretty bombproof - except he's still on springs.

I'm looking for a pair of longer military shackles for the front of my 88" Series - shoot me a PM if you have a set that you're going to toss when you do the conversion :D.
 
Wow! I expected such a topic to receive much more of a flaming than anything so far.

So what you're looking for is a long-wheelbase 4X4 with a solid inline-6 motor, and reliable Toyota drivetrain... buying an FJ60 is alot cheaper than grafting a somewhat hard-to-find aluminum Rover body onto a frame that was never once meant to receive such a tin-can in the first place.

I'll list the potential issues:
- Electrical!!! Lets face it, Rover has a reputation for wiring that's about half-a-step better than something made by Thomas Eddison, and about half as reliable. Likewise, Toyotas have a knack for falling into the hands of booger-eating morons who thing that since they know the difference between wire cutters and their front teeth they can do who-knows-what to everything that resembles a wire.

- Electrolysis: aluminum body on steel frame with steel doors... there's a chance that any Rover you find that would be sold at a reasonable price would look like swiss cheese, and aluminum isn't as fun to weld as good ol' steel.

- Fitment. We all know that any F motor isn't exactly small. Shoot, they're tractor motors that Toyota first rushed onto the FJ25 assembly line because they were pretty much all they had. Can a rover body even accommodate a long, and tall motor? Do you know a reasonable aluminum welder who can make things fit, if they don't?

- Obscurity. Cruiser parts are now selling for a premium because it's getting harder to find many pieces necessary, shoot, you're pretty much AFU is you have an F135 needing a rebuild, and don't have a parts lot behind your house. The 2F's not too far behind. I blame the modern fascination with gorram V-pattern blocks. Top that with a body that's also hard to find parts for...

I'd love to see someone build a Rover up proper with something really groundbreaking, (like a 1PZ/R151/R1AF) but this whole idea just sounds... like alot of work for very minimal results.
 
Didn't Gary build a 110 on an 80 series chassis?

It was at SEMA this year...
 
it was a 110 chassis.

But most of the evil rover part have been replaced.

Nice rig of course..

It is Gary..
 
Thanks for the replies lads.

Sounds like a lot of you boys have a downer on Land Rovers in general.

Sputnik40, if you could find that write up that would be excellent, thanks.

I live in Scotland so Land Rover parts a plentful and very cheap and I already have a well serviced and reliable 80 with a wrecked body.

Combat Chuck, thanks for the pointers.
The electrics will be mainly Toyota.
I'm not to worried about electrolytic/galvanic corrossion as there are plenty of old rovers still running over here which haven't disolved into a big pile of scrap yet. There are only 8 or so mounting points on the body so it's just a matter of properly isolating the chassis from the body with rubber washers and decent paint.
I've measured up and i can see a few issues with fitment but anything can be fabricated.

The way i see it, it should be pretty simple to fit the body to the chassis using land rover outriggers and rear crossmember. The complicated bit is making all the Toyota parts fit the Land Rover bulkhead as i want to retain the LC steering column, antilock brakes, air con etc.

I don't think i can post photos yet but will as soon as i have permissions.

Cheers, G
 
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Please don't confuse my input with criticism, it does sound like an interesting build, but it also seems like alot of work and coin for negligible results, that's what I was trying to express.
I'm much more puritanical over Toyotas than Rovers, so if you want to Cruiser-ize a Rover, (as opposed to Rover-ize a Cruiser) I'd like to see the potential egg on the faces of the hardcore Rover snobs. (you know the ones, the folks who think that every 4X4 leaks oil as bad as theirs:rolleyes:)
Personally, I'd advise going for broke, man, drop in a 2UZ, or some Toyota Diesel just for the sake of taking this thing beyond anything anyone would recon with!

Keep us posted!
 
Cheers Chuck, i didn't take it as critisism at all, just a good list of pointers.

My 80 is a straight 6, 4.2 turbo diesel. The 1HD-T is pretty simple and tuneable so thats what i'll start with.

I want to get everything together and working before i start dropping in big motors.

G
 
My 80 is a straight 6, 4.2 turbo diesel. The 1HD-T is pretty simple and tuneable so thats what i'll start with.

1HD-T it's pretty powerfull engine and very capable in the 80 series big ass .. with a light body will be a killer setup ..
 
it was a 110 chassis.

But most of the evil rover part have been replaced.

Nice rig of course..

It is Gary..

Well said Mace.

Has anyone seen a bad/ugly rig owned by Gary? All of his vehicle/rigs/toys are very nice.
 
1HD-T it's pretty powerfull engine and very capable in the 80 series big ass .. with a light body will be a killer setup ..

I had the 1hz in a FJ45 that just plain rocked, so much power....:popcorn:
 
Cheers Chuck, i didn't take it as critisism at all, just a good list of pointers.

My 80 is a straight 6, 4.2 turbo diesel. The 1HD-T is pretty simple and tuneable so thats what i'll start with.

I want to get everything together and working before i start dropping in big motors.

G


OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
That sounds like a bully swap! I thought you were looking at a 1FZ-FE for the swap, personally, the 1HD-T's pretty much the best I6 diesel motor Toyota ever produced! Like Radd said, the 1HZ (the younger cousin, so to speak) rocks, but the 1HD's got a much more refined power curve, and is a little more efficient. I think it may even be direct injection, but don't quote me on that.

I would love to see this thing built just to see the look of disdain the Rover purists would show!
 
Aye, it's a solid lump alright. It's a 1993 80 and has more go than my 2008 hilux. 250hp is easy to find with bolt on mods but the torque is what i like, even in standard spec.

The 80 is a UK VX spec so has factory lockers front and back and an auto box, so the body swap will be most of the work. I have a 5" spring lift ready to go on but this will have to wait until i have it registered and legal.

I'm now trying to source a series 3 109 to pull the body off. There are a few about but good ones go for good money and bad ones need good money. I'm sure something will turn up soon.
 
I'll trade you a certified off road race bug for it :D
 
I sourced an ex military 109 for next to nothing with all the bits i need to make a start. It will be getting dropped off tomorrow so will try to get going on this before christmas.


Way to score!:cheers:
 

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