LC 300 coming to USA in 2026? Lieberman podcast..? (1 Viewer)

[serpico1]

Hi Everyone-Happy New year this may be old news but I was listening to this podcast from last Jan 2021-a year ago or so and our friend Jonny Liberman mentions the rumors he heard from sources that says that indeed Toyota saw the error in its ways and is going to be bringing the 300 back to the USA in about 4 years or so for the mid cycle refresh.

Mr. Liberman was the one who told the world that Toyota was not bringing the LC 300 to USA and that it was discontinued for the US market.

Again maybe this podcast is old news, but what does everyone think?
Here is the link below,

Ep. 157 - Jonny Lieberman Talks Cruisers, Rovers, Tacos, And Sausages, While DECKED Finally Unveils The New Product! – The Truck Show Podcast – Podcast

Never one to shy away from gracing our podcast (or any others) with his knowledge and opinion, automotive personality and journalist Jonny Lieberman returns to shed light on Toyota’s decision to cance...– Lyt til Ep. 157 - Jonny Lieberman Talks Cruisers, Rovers, Tacos, And Sausages, While DECKED...

podtail.com

 

[Bomar]

I suspect it will at some point..

They need all the new releases to hit and sell.

LX600
Sequoia
2023/4 4R
2023/4 GX
All E trucks and cars

Then I bet bring it back in a mid range format not all top trim as before. Which I think is better for the US Market.

The base LX600 is more or less the top LC trim and doesn't have AHC now.

 

[lx200inAR]

The base LX600 is more or less the top LC trim and doesn't have AHC now.

EDIT: Please ignore me, I missed the key part of the sentence "base LX600".


This press release says otherwise.

A FLAGSHIP SUV IS BORN: INTRODUCING THE ALL-NEW 2022 LEXUS LX 600 - Lexus USA Newsroom

PLANO, Texas (October 13, 2021) – “Good things come to those who wait,” the age-old expression goes. Following three impressive generations, the wait is now over – an all-new LX has arrived. Totally redesigned from the ground up – inside […]

pressroom.lexus.com

ON-ROAD PERFORMANCE VIA THE LEXUS DRIVING SIGNATURE​

LX’s fundamental dynamic characteristics are enhanced by way of Lexus’ first adoption of the GA-F platform and a weight reduction of 441 pounds. The high-output, high-torque twin-turbocharged engine, Electronically Controlled Brake (ECB), and Electric Power Steering (EPS) further deepen the Lexus Driving Signature by delivering driving performance that seamlessly connects deceleration, steering and acceleration in all situations, while the use of a new Active Height Control (AHC) system and Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) help provide improved grip, traction and control as well as a sense of strength and security.

Although it is a frame-based vehicle that retains its predecessor’s traditional off-road driving performance and vehicle stability, the new LX offers a high level of vehicle control, along with supreme on-road ride comfort.

ACTIVE HEIGHT CONTROL (AHC) SUSPENSION AND ADAPTIVE VARIABLE SUSPENSION (AVS)

The AHC suspension, which allows the ride height to be adjusted according to the driving environment, now comes with an expanded range of ride height positions. While ride height is still adjusted through the use of shock absorbers, gas and hydraulic springs and metal springs, a spring rate switching device – which was previously only used for the front wheels – is now used for the rear wheels as well, reducing the time needed to adjust ride height. There are three settings for vehicle height while the vehicle is in motion (Normal, Hi1 and Hi2) and a Low setting for passenger ingress and egress.

 

[El Skywalker]

This press release says otherwise.

A FLAGSHIP SUV IS BORN: INTRODUCING THE ALL-NEW 2022 LEXUS LX 600 - Lexus USA Newsroom

PLANO, Texas (October 13, 2021) – “Good things come to those who wait,” the age-old expression goes. Following three impressive generations, the wait is now over – an all-new LX has arrived. Totally redesigned from the ground up – inside […]

pressroom.lexus.com

I believe I had read that AHC was standard for most models, but there is one model that they are making without.

 

[Tex68w]

I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back but I am willing to bet that it hinges on the success of other models and the economy as a whole.

 

[Bomar]

@lx200inAR

So the AHC optional on Premium and F Sport and Luxury

Base level is not an option....(as I stated)

F Sport you can get with or without.

https://www.lexus.com/content/dam/lexus/documents/fcv/MY22_LX_POG.pdf

 

[lx200inAR]

I believe I had read that AHC was standard for most models, but there is one model that they are making without.

I see.. Looking at this document, it will be on option on two of the trim levels.

https://www.lexus.com/content/dam/lexus/documents/fcv/MY22_LX_POG.pdf

Under the 'Options" list:

Active Height Control (LX F SPORT Handling, LX Luxury)

I assume that to mean you will only be able to get it on those two versions, and that it is standard on the Ultra Luxury trim.

Other interesting thing is the LX Premium has AVS but not AHC. I would have assumed those systems were pretty intertwined.

 

[grinchy]

Maybe Toyota is forecasting the beginning of the post-crash financial recovery starting in 2026. The equivalent to the 2013 restart post 2012 manufacturing hold / refresh 1.

Crazy, the crash hasn't even happened yet, but this implies a similar duration (2008 thru 2012), four years.

Or they figure the amount of demand after four years of no supply will be sufficient to offset the fixed costs of distribution, and there isn't any tinhat financial modeling. Or both.

 

[AnyMal]

Dont even go there. People are clawing over the 200 stock, wouldn't want to spoil their fun.
On the other hand, i bet toyota is seeing what they are fetching and is doing a double take.

 

[doober]

I see.. Looking at this document, it will be on option on two of the trim levels.

https://www.lexus.com/content/dam/lexus/documents/fcv/MY22_LX_POG.pdf

Under the 'Options" list:

Active Height Control (LX F SPORT Handling, LX Luxury)

I assume that to mean you will only be able to get it on those two versions, and that it is standard on the Ultra Luxury trim.

Other interesting thing is the LX Premium has AVS but not AHC. I would have assumed those systems were pretty intertwined.

We already need a madman to cut one of these up and fit a bumper to it, I bet it would look pretty dam good!

 

[OGBeno]

I don’t see this happening.

At all.

Ever.

 

[04UZJ100]

Doubt it. Toyota is going full EV by 2030 (which is stupid). Why would they bring it to the US in 2026?

 

[TonyP]

Doubt it. Toyota is going full EV by 2030 (which is stupid). Why would they bring it to the US in 2026?

Agenda 2030

 

[MoJ]

Doubt it. Toyota is going full EV by 2030 (which is stupid). Why would they bring it to the US in 2026?

If by “full EV” you mean that they will only offer EV’s by 2030, that’s not true. The information released says they will offer a full line of EV’s while continuing to invest in other technologies as well. ICE/electric hybrids being one mentioned.

 

[Jurwin]

Hi Everyone-Happy New year this may be old news but I was listening to this podcast from last Jan 2021-a year ago or so and our friend Jonny Liberman mentions the rumors he heard from sources that says that indeed Toyota saw the error in its ways and is going to be bringing the 300 back to the USA in about 4 years or so for the mid cycle refresh.

Mr. Liberman was the one who told the world that Toyota was not bringing the LC 300 to USA and that it was discontinued for the US market.

Again maybe this podcast is old news, but what does everyone think?
Here is the link below,

Ep. 157 - Jonny Lieberman Talks Cruisers, Rovers, Tacos, And Sausages, While DECKED Finally Unveils The New Product! – The Truck Show Podcast – Podcast

Never one to shy away from gracing our podcast (or any others) with his knowledge and opinion, automotive personality and journalist Jonny Lieberman returns to shed light on Toyota’s decision to cance...– Lyt til Ep. 157 - Jonny Lieberman Talks Cruisers, Rovers, Tacos, And Sausages, While DECKED...

podtail.com

This podcast is from January 2021. Like others have said, the chances of Toyota bringing the LC300 back to the US is very small. Maybe they might bring it back when the hybrid version is ready.

 

[hblx570]

I don’t see this happening.

At all.

Ever.

X2.....

 

[desmocruiser]

Toyota is likely the most outspoken manufacturer against 100% EV, they have strong doubts that it is universally viable.

 

[hoser]

Lately, Toyota has really mixed views on electric vehicles. My guess is they want their hand in everything until they get better market intel.... which shouldn't be too long from now?

Toyota’s electric vehicle plans are getting bigger and more expensive

Lexus will become an EV-only brand by 2035.

www.theverge.com

 

[AnyMal]

Toyota is likely the most outspoken manufacturer against 100% EV, they have strong doubts that it is universally viable.

Well they folded to market pressure a couple months ago and “revitalized” their entire lineup. Lexus will be full EV or something…

Toyota got tired of their outdated and ignorant strategy of being last to the game. It’s a new paradigm now really, they were doomed to compete without this move.

I mean look at ford stock, the market is clearly speaking. I’m happy T pulled their heads out of their ass but I still think they left everything on the table by not leaning into the Prius more and being typically stubborn Japanese corporate heads. They no longer have a market advantage in EV as reliability now is a non issue more and more.
They have their work cut out. They did also just overtake GM in sales for last year, but that was probably due to shortages than anything else. It will fade pretty fast on them being the biggest in the USA.

 

[desmocruiser]

Well they folded to market pressure a couple months ago and “revitalized” their entire lineup. Lexus will be full EV or something…

Toyota got tired of their outdated and ignorant strategy of being last to the game. It’s a new paradigm now really, they were doomed to compete without this move.

I mean look at ford stock, the market is clearly speaking. I’m happy T pulled their heads out of their ass but I still think they left everything on the table by not leaning into the Prius more and being typically stubborn Japanese corporate heads. They no longer have a market advantage in EV as reliability now is a non issue more and more.
They have their work cut out. They did also just overtake GM in sales for last year, but that was probably due to shortages than anything else. It will fade pretty fast on them being the biggest in the USA.

100% EV and selling Battery EV vehicles are 2 different things. Toyota‘s goal is to produce Battery Electrified options in all segments (Carbon Neutrally) and allow the customers and regions to decide which options are best for them, the world is too diverse, energy varies greatly from region to region and to have a one size fits all strategy in a world of constant change isn’t a great idea and a likely strategy that offers tremendous fluidity moving forward.

I am not certain about T not capitalizing on the Prius, true they haven’t fully marketed BEV’s, especially in the US. But Toyota has sold more electrified vehicles than any other manufacturer for 22 consecutive years (including 2021) in NA and EPV makes up 25% of their sales here!

Yes, there is a goal for Lexus to be 100% Battery EV in US, China, and Europe with 1 million units in 2030 and world wide in 2035, however Lexus is only a small part of the Toyota volume worldwide and it is clear Luxury brands have an advantage, cost of entry and density in more populated areas with far greater infrastructure to support BEV’s, makes this a much easier strategy and one many manufacturers are embracing.

Yes, Toyota did just Become #1 and record stock price resulted, supply issues had an impact, largely because Toyota has greater supply chain fluidity than any other auto manufacturer. As far as Toyota remaining #1 in the US, (they have been #1 retail for 10 consecutive years) GM will likely regain that spot when additional fleet production resumes, but very few are EV’s!