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I missed Podvin's open-top LX470 on 37's run Martinez Canyon with the AzLCA. I heard he made the 80's look like they were IFS/IRS.
Damn....I missed out on Slee's 80 pickup. I passed on his SAS 100 after finding out he mangled it. Damn, I'd luv an 80 or 100 without a top!
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Salem Boy's has both the line pressure gauges and caliper scales. IMHO you can get real close by playing with it, the biggest mistake is stopping playing to soon, it works front then rear lock, good enough. In my experience the stopping gets better the closer the two events are, until the rears lock first, then back off a bit.YMMV
With John's big lift, heavy springs, etc, it may perform best with the arm disconnected and tied up to the body?
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Salem Boy's has both the line pressure gauges and caliper scales. IMHO you can get real close by playing with it, the biggest mistake is stopping playing to soon, it works front then rear lock, good enough. In my experience the stopping gets better the closer the two events are, until the rears lock first, then back off a bit.YMMV
With John's big lift, heavy springs, etc, it may perform best with the arm disconnected and tied up to the body?
Thats what was done on my old 80 but the arm was connected to give the look like it did something.
look what i drive
You know, all this talk about how safe a driver you are is prolly BS, I'll bet every car on the road gives you a wide berth.
-Spike (I know they give me about 3 car lengths!
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**The brake booster is VERY expensive. There have been very few failures. For me? I'll pay out the nose for this safety feature. 100% braking without the engine on? I'll pay. Hell, I'd pay for the booster replacement just to get the safe brakes in the 100. An 80 can't stop worth a crap and in my opinion is very dangerous. I'll use the word under-built.
I also think this is a very good safety feature, but why do you need this feature? Is the 100 series engine prone to stall?
You know why these are a benefit. I don't need to answer that.
I beg to differ! My 80 with 35's handles exceptionally well. With a 3" lift and tire carrier and winch bumper, it is the smoothest rig that I have ever driven. It doesn't sway on rough trails the way that my IFS rigs did. It is acceptable on the highway, but not fast. It doesn't seem to care if I add a 1000lb. trailer, but over that and I can feel the weight. It is not speedy on long climbs, but my last truck was slower. Over two years, I have driven it a lot of miles without problems, much of the time towing a trailer. I tow my trailer so often that when it is not back there, I still drive as if it was there. The only problem was when I popped a seam in the radiator. This was after 15months of feeding a slow leak, including a trek across the Mohave Desert at 125 degrees with the radiator leaking. It was not a problem. The 80 is over-designed in every way. It is a tough truck. I am impressed! I catch some flame here for not polishing my bodywork up. I worked hard to rebuild and paint my bodywork after a roll, and if it cannot hold up to my kind of abuse, it is not worthy of me. The body and interior has been nearly indestructible except for one seam in the drivers' seat bottom and a few wrinkles in the headliner from the rollover. My truck was rolled when I bought it. The front roof was crushed as much as 6" and the "A" and "B" roof pillars were bent. The left side looked like a barn had hit it at high speed! It was mashed! Even the drivers' door handle was broken.
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I think most all 80 owners share your thoughts about the 80-series. I do as well.
Your reference to IFS rigs...I will bet that your experience does not include an IFS 100-series? This is what we are discussing. One can't compare an IFS non-Land Cruiser to a IFS Land Cruiser. We need to compare LC to LC.
Here, the results are known and all road tests and reviews confirm it. The 100-series is leaps and bounds ahead of the last series in the handling and driving experience due to all the improvements including IFS.Because the 100 is improved in so many ways it doesn't mean the 80's suck. They are superb vehicles too. For myself, I'm just too spoiled and personally the 80's shortcomings drive me nuts (like I drive 80-only owners nuts).
I think most all 80 owners share your thoughts about the 80-series. I do as well.
Your reference to IFS rigs...I will bet that your experience does not include an IFS 100-series? This is what we are discussing. One can't compare an IFS non-Land Cruiser to a IFS Land Cruiser. We need to compare LC to LC.
Because the 100 is improved in so many ways it doesn't mean the 80's suck. They are superb vehicles too. For myself, I'm just too spoiled and personally the 80's shortcomings drive me nuts (like I drive 80-only owners nuts).
John With the 80's shortcomings driving you nuts why have we not seen your 80/450 for sale?
John With the 80's shortcomings driving you nuts why have we not seen your 80/450 for sale?
I need another built and dedicated wheeler (a 100) I can pinstripe to death first. Until, I need my LX450.
*If I buy a new LX570, I have my dedicated wheeler instantly....my Roklimo
*If I buy a new 2007 (if I can find one when the 570's are out..in case I don't like the 570), I have an instant wheeler...Roklimo
No decisions will be made until I see the 570. Meanwhile, I'm not willing to trash my 2001 as it still looks fantastic. I still may end up with another used 100 too. Gotta wait for now.
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John With the 80's shortcomings driving you nuts why have we not seen your 80/450 for sale?
Oh, and the other answer........I have $26K in my LX, all the renewing, and the build. If I could get close to that amount now......it's GONE!
Any takers? $20K? It's hardly been wheeled. I think I'd take 20 for it.
For $20K I could build a 100. With a solid axle.
-Spike
Good luck. Slee offered me his SAS 100 for $25K. I'd a grabbed it except he just mangled it plus I feared future service to the front end. Who could do it? The 39's weren't included either. Had to pass.
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For $20K I could build a 100. With a solid axle.
-Spike
Why would you do that? You would loose all of the alphabet soup “goodness” that makes the 100 safe, drivable and end up with an 80 with a fat body and a screwed up motor, that you have to disassemble to replace $10 worth of starter contacts!
Why would you do that? You would loose all of the alphabet soup “goodness” that makes the 100 safe, drivable and end up with an 80 with a fat body and a screwed up motor, that you have to disassemble to replace $10 worth of starter contacts!
Because it would be a dedicated trail rig AND a very unique vehicle (100 on 39's) I'd sacrifice. I still have Roklimo as my main wheeler and DD.
How would this work for you...a 100 w/solid axle and no A-trac or TC. It would be unsafe and it would wheel like chit.
O' never mind