Plot Spoiler: 17% improvement in mileage.
I had my set of Toyo MTs (315/75R16) for just over 6 six years. They were bulletproof and stayed balanced for the duration. I put over 40,000 miles on them and they still were at 13-14 across the board.
But they were hideous on mileage. Great for brakes and while that sounds like a joke, it isn't. I could take my foot out of the gas and go from 50 down 25 quickly without touching the brakes.
I had had BFG KO in the 285 variety (33s) with stock gearing. Once I went to 488s I went to the 35s and the Toyo MTs.
Here is the data:
1) I took years of data and consistently would get no better than 14.7 MEASURED with the Ultragauge. This ended up being pretty accurate if you multiplied that by 0.93 (the effective factor considering I am still over-geared about 7% with the 488s and 35s). I would get as low as 13.9 if the tank included a lot of snowy, slow heavier air driving during winter. But during the summer with a typical tank of driving my commute and some town driving, I got darn close to that 14.7. For years.
1a) That 14.7 is really 13.6 mpg which strongly correlated with the amount of gas I would put in and the miles driven.
1b) I would get between 245 and 285 miles indicated per tank with the Toyo MTs.
2) I now have three full tanks of gas and 1000 miles of driving. I'm consistently getting at 17.2 indicated. Now I have my ARB awning attached and I'm guessing that is actually hindering the measurement by something significant, maybe 0.3 mpg but it's worth noting.
2a) That 17.2 works out to about 16 mpg which is also strongly correlated with the amount of gas I put in the tank. See my attached image.
2b) I'm pretty consistently getting 325 miles from a tank and got 350 on one but she took 20+ gallons to fill thereafter so still pretty consistent.
Notes and opinions:
A) I drive with an eye to mileage. Some don't I do. But my driving does include dropping out of overdrive and dropping into 2nd a fair amount. I do live in Colorado and this heavy pig needs to spin to get up hills without being the Pariah Of The Highway.
B) I did NOT like the way the MTs handled offroad. I would drop the PSI down 14 and even with my heavily armored rig, the tires barely deflect. They were stiff when I got them and got worse over time. I was taken aback by how poorly they behaved vs the KOs I had previously and I'm nearly certain it is because these extremely strong MTs just don't move.
C) The KO2s I have now I think are ideally suited for the west. There just isn't mud out here. We have plenty rock and sandstone but I've driven 1000s of miles of dirt and can only think of a couple areas with anything that could be considered real mud. We just do not need MTs out here. I saw a buggy with Toyo MTs and beadlocks aired down to 2 psi and those things looked perfect. He liked them cuz he could air down so far and the sidewalls were so bulletproof. But short of that, I just don't think these MTs are good for out west. The KO2s have so much better siping for winter and a much better tire for out here.
I had my set of Toyo MTs (315/75R16) for just over 6 six years. They were bulletproof and stayed balanced for the duration. I put over 40,000 miles on them and they still were at 13-14 across the board.
But they were hideous on mileage. Great for brakes and while that sounds like a joke, it isn't. I could take my foot out of the gas and go from 50 down 25 quickly without touching the brakes.
I had had BFG KO in the 285 variety (33s) with stock gearing. Once I went to 488s I went to the 35s and the Toyo MTs.
Here is the data:
1) I took years of data and consistently would get no better than 14.7 MEASURED with the Ultragauge. This ended up being pretty accurate if you multiplied that by 0.93 (the effective factor considering I am still over-geared about 7% with the 488s and 35s). I would get as low as 13.9 if the tank included a lot of snowy, slow heavier air driving during winter. But during the summer with a typical tank of driving my commute and some town driving, I got darn close to that 14.7. For years.
1a) That 14.7 is really 13.6 mpg which strongly correlated with the amount of gas I would put in and the miles driven.
1b) I would get between 245 and 285 miles indicated per tank with the Toyo MTs.
2) I now have three full tanks of gas and 1000 miles of driving. I'm consistently getting at 17.2 indicated. Now I have my ARB awning attached and I'm guessing that is actually hindering the measurement by something significant, maybe 0.3 mpg but it's worth noting.
2a) That 17.2 works out to about 16 mpg which is also strongly correlated with the amount of gas I put in the tank. See my attached image.
2b) I'm pretty consistently getting 325 miles from a tank and got 350 on one but she took 20+ gallons to fill thereafter so still pretty consistent.
Notes and opinions:
A) I drive with an eye to mileage. Some don't I do. But my driving does include dropping out of overdrive and dropping into 2nd a fair amount. I do live in Colorado and this heavy pig needs to spin to get up hills without being the Pariah Of The Highway.
B) I did NOT like the way the MTs handled offroad. I would drop the PSI down 14 and even with my heavily armored rig, the tires barely deflect. They were stiff when I got them and got worse over time. I was taken aback by how poorly they behaved vs the KOs I had previously and I'm nearly certain it is because these extremely strong MTs just don't move.
C) The KO2s I have now I think are ideally suited for the west. There just isn't mud out here. We have plenty rock and sandstone but I've driven 1000s of miles of dirt and can only think of a couple areas with anything that could be considered real mud. We just do not need MTs out here. I saw a buggy with Toyo MTs and beadlocks aired down to 2 psi and those things looked perfect. He liked them cuz he could air down so far and the sidewalls were so bulletproof. But short of that, I just don't think these MTs are good for out west. The KO2s have so much better siping for winter and a much better tire for out here.
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