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Is the 100 series really more reliable than the 80?
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No it wasn’t what you said. You said there are far better IFS platforms. List one that has the size and build quality of a 100 series and was sold in the US. I’m waiting.
I said better IFS platforms out there for offroad application if you so insist on IFS like the 100s. Keep in mind I am not talking about built quality or other qualifications, only talking in an offroading standpoint ONLY.
That’s fair. I never saw the 100 as a hardcore offroad vehicle. It’s great for all around use, tow your fishing boat or small camper and still have a decent daily driver. I get people ask all the time why do I have an 80 and a 100…. “Aren’t they the same thing pretty much?”. Those people have not driven either vehicle and don’t understand how different they are.
I am not knocking on 100s or Toyotas.. My 80 is no where the creature comfort of a 100s, nor does it has the power of a V8. All i was saying is, both platforms excels at different things and user applications.
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Bingo.
I'd much rather drive the 100 or 200 in a cross country, interstate journey. My 80 and I have done multiple LA/Seattle round-trips and it ain't no Rolls Royce by any stretch of the imagination.
The 80-100 thing smells just like Porsche's 993 to 996, air-cooled to water-cooled transition. While IFS and the incoming V8s were absolutely the right call for Toyota's upmarket LC/LX move, the 80/993 will always be more treasured/valued because they harken back to simpler days of motoring.
Thin A-pillars. Shallow dash. Less doodads. Simpler buyer demands. Love it!
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Yeah I do think a twin-locked 80 is the most capable Land Cruiser ever made, but I’d take a rear-locked/ATRAC UZJ100 over an unlocked 80 for mild to moderate wheeling like the Alpine loop in SW Colorado.
The torsion bar front-end does sacrifice some suspension travel vs. the solid front of an 80, but the design is more durable than an A-arm IFS set up like on the GX, Tacoma, etc. Also, the 100 series actually flexes better than the 80 in the rear from the factory.
As you alluded to, an FZJ80 in stock form isn’t exactly a rock buggy. The radius arm set up is designed more for long-term durability than instagram flex-shots. The 80 series does respond better to suspension mods and bigger tires than a 100, but it probably won’t flex like a Rubicon without an expensive 3-link conversion, even if it’s a much better all around vehicle than the Jeep.
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I liked my early tundra so much I bought the wife a first year sequoia. Currently the sequoia is getting a front suspension rebuild( lots of blown-out rubber bushings)
The tundra has great power, where the sequoia is under powered. Later models with VVTI have issues with the upstream air injection.
I bought a late model lx450 and it has been reliable so far with 270k.
It’s kind of an apple to oranges comparison. I was working on a friends lx470. Not sure if the guy ever got it running. It had a lot of deferred maintenance and rat damage. Not sure how that plays in.
Toyotas in general are more reliable than other brands. But like any machine, it all depends on abuse and maintenance.
The tundra has great power, where the sequoia is under powered. Later models with VVTI have issues with the upstream air injection.
I bought a late model lx450 and it has been reliable so far with 270k.
It’s kind of an apple to oranges comparison. I was working on a friends lx470. Not sure if the guy ever got it running. It had a lot of deferred maintenance and rat damage. Not sure how that plays in.
Toyotas in general are more reliable than other brands. But like any machine, it all depends on abuse and maintenance.
