If you could design your own "full" cargo build...

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619TOY

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Since adding the 200 to the stable, I've been pretty much dead set against a cargo build out, drawers, etc. If I were to build out anything, I wanted to keep it simple, maybe a Line-X platform and tie down track only. But lately, I've been kicking around the idea of doing a full build out, I mean I'm actually considering doing a full 360° and building out the entire cargo area. The primary goal would be to simplify the loading and unloading process (read chore) every time we go camping and maybe even get out more. I'm still torn...

So I'm pretty much just looking for any input: do it, don't do it, "if it were me, I'd...".

When I did the cargo build out in the 80, I had different priorities and completely overbuild almost every aspect of it. My plan for the 200, should I decide to move forward, would be to try to get through the project a little more quickly, but still be happy with the results.

Some of my considerations, design ideas and components would probably include:
  • Pretty much all 1/2" baltic birch construction, lightened by skeletonizing any surfaces I can to lower weight
  • Coating in Line-X
  • Dual slides, one for our fridge and one for our chuckbox or maybe just the fridge
  • Standard 500lb. locking slides
  • Dual secondary slides for storing smaller items & serving as prep/work areas
  • Trying to optimize storage of the Pelican cases we already own
I only started playing with Sketchup a couple days ago so go easy;) This is only an approximation of what I'm thinking about jumping into relative to my drawing skills haha. I've also tried to scale everything, but there's no guarantee everything will fit as desired yet. May have to scale back a little bit:D

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I don't plan a build-out but if I did. I would make it a module I could insert and remove with a forklift or an engine hoist if you don't have a forklift.
 
I don't plan a build-out but if I did. I would make it a module I could insert and remove with a forklift or an engine hoist if you don't have a forklift.

I actually do have a forklift, but once it goes in it's staying, although I do see the appeal of a removable build out. The storage I built for the 80 is actually pretty much permanently in there too.

Very cool. I did similar construction, as far as materials and coating, but went with a little different slide/drawer layout.

I have since added an attic, and really like it.

Your design looks solid.

Awesome! Are those the Orr & Orr Slides? If so, how do you like them? I've been looking at them as a lower cost alternative to Accurides.

Looks like a nice sketch up and reminds me of Trekboxx: Home

Yep, very similar. If only they did one off builds for 200's I'd be set:D
 
The base Trekboxx Alpha works in the 200 - just change out the trim kit.

OP your system design is pretty cool. Here are some thoughts;

- the pelican cases are heavy and rob storage space as they are thick.
- Having everything neatly stored looks great but having to pull out a box and look for a thing is very tedious. I speak from experience especially when she wants a thing buried in... which box is it?
- The fridge is deeper than you think so you wont have much space for pelican cases - maybe a cubby. Dont forget to account for second row recline/lean back. The 50qt fridge is about 30 inches deep. The overall system would only be about 40 deep.


I realize it's a conceptual render and a very good one.
 
Since adding the 200 to the stable, I've been pretty much dead set against a cargo build out, drawers, etc. If I were to build out anything, I wanted to keep it simple, maybe a Line-X platform and tie down track only. But lately, I've been kicking around the idea of doing a full build out, I mean I'm actually considering doing a full 360° and building out the entire cargo area. The primary goal would be to simplify the loading and unloading process (read chore) every time we go camping and maybe even get out more. I'm still torn...

So I'm pretty much just looking for any input: do it, don't do it, "if it were me, I'd...".

When I did the cargo build out in the 80, I had different priorities and completely overbuild almost every aspect of it. My plan for the 200, should I decide to move forward, would be to try to get through the project a little more quickly, but still be happy with the results.

Some of my considerations, design ideas and components would probably include:
  • Pretty much all 1/2" baltic birch construction, lightened by skeletonizing any surfaces I can to lower weight
  • Coating in Line-X
  • Dual slides, one for our fridge and one for our chuckbox or maybe just the fridge
  • Standard 500lb. locking slides
  • Dual secondary slides for storing smaller items & serving as prep/work areas
  • Trying to optimize storage of the Pelican cases we already own
I only started playing with Sketchup a couple days ago so go easy;) This is only an approximation of what I'm thinking about jumping into relative to my drawing skills haha. I've also tried to scale everything, but there's no guarantee everything will fit as desired yet. May have to scale back a little bit:D

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Awesome design. Looks about perfect.
 
what target weight do you shoot for when building one of these units?
 
what target weight do you shoot for when building one of these units?

Umm, as light as possible?

Just as a (very) rough estimate, my design probably incorporates about 125 pounds of 1/2" baltic birch or 90 pounds of Joubert Okoumbe 1/2" ply plus slides (heavy), steel frame for attic (not that heavy) and all hardware and Line-X. I would definitely expect over 200 pounds...
 
Thanks guys!

The base Trekboxx Alpha works in the 200 - just change out the trim kit.

OP your system design is pretty cool. Here are some thoughts;

- the pelican cases are heavy and rob storage space as they are thick.
- Having everything neatly stored looks great but having to pull out a box and look for a thing is very tedious. I speak from experience especially when she wants a thing buried in... which box is it?
- The fridge is deeper than you think so you wont have much space for pelican cases - maybe a cubby. Dont forget to account for second row recline/lean back. The 50qt fridge is about 30 inches deep. The overall system would only be about 40 deep.


I realize it's a conceptual render and a very good one.

Yeah, I totally get the reservations about the Pelican boxes, but when you split trips up between three SUV's, they do become a bit of a necessary evil...

Right now, we have 2 - 1650's with lid organizers, 2 - 1520's, a 1400 and a 1200 so I guess I'm about a familiar with them as I'm gonna get...

Nothing is set in stone yet, I just kinda started drawing and didn't stop :D

No input but I definitely like your design quite a bit. If you end up having making it I wouldn't mind theifing that solidworks file off of you.

Haha, I wish it was a Solidworks file. That would probably cost me too many favors:crybaby::doh:

You're welcome to the Sketchup though:D
 
@619TOY - heres a creative thought for you.

I'm in the tile and stone industry and my company inventories a light weight board made by Schluter, it's call Kerdi board. Has a favorable following for various reason. Comes in multiple thicknesses, Super light weight high density foam board with Kerdi membrane (waterproof) on either side of the foam. Once it's been glued and screwed it's very stout. Might be applicable. I've been on jobsites an seen installers use HDPE as a backing (both sides) when fastening screws through the Kerdi board to bolster the rigidity. This is not a common practice in my industry however creative minds do their thing. Look into it if you're curious.

Schluter®-KERDI-BOARD | KERDI-BOARD Panels | Building Panels | schluter.com

High Density Cutting Board & Bench Tops | U.S. Plastic Corp.

thanks and good luck - I look forward to your end game
 
That's awesome, thanks I'll check it out. There's another one that I've considered for some surfaces called coosa board. I actually have a sheet of it; it's a fiberglass reinforced composite. It's a little lighter than the "lightweight" plywood.

I actually have a sheet of your second link too, mine's called Sea Board I think...
 
The base Trekboxx Alpha works in the 200 - just change out the trim kit.


- The fridge is deeper than you think so you wont have much space for pelican cases - maybe a cubby. Dont forget to account for second row recline/lean back. The 50qt fridge is about 30 inches deep. The overall system would only be about 40 deep.

One also has to account for ARBs airflow requirements. Hardest thing about packing around the fridge I find is keeping the airspace behind it open. If I was to design a drawer system I'd probably design in a duct system/airbox of some sort for the back of fridge so I could pack around it easily.
 
So after playing with my design some I got a little free time this afternoon and made some cuts. I've decided to move forward with a simpler, but (potentially) modular design. I've moved away from the 4 slide design and decided to move forward with a two slide design. Then should I choose, I can fab some drawers for the "chuck box" area. I'm still planning on the attic, but it isn't in this drawing.

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Got around to spending a little more time on this project. Got the majority of the fridge slide mocked up. The drawer below the fridge will feature a sliding work surface which gives way to the drawer below. I think that's where we'll keep a small stove and some kitchen staples for when we don't bring the full chuck box. The small storage area below the chuck box will hold our snow peak table. The far outside wings will feature threaded inserts for modular switch plates. These will facilitate the recessed switches and AC/DC outlets. So, getting to what everyone wants, some progress pics:D


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