I want one when they are available
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heh heh 
just not here to bitch about it 
this is the " I am gonna get one thread"
just not here to bitch about it this is the " I am gonna get one thread"
Well depending on how they turn out, I have the wife backing me up, I like them too
haha, I'll hafta wait till they are 20 years old like my other ones.
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that is funny, I am not too sure they will really last for twenty years...
Cdaniel
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desertdude said:
Of course it won't. Cars are not designed to out live your financing anymore.
Cars are built better today than anytime in history. I wouldn't go back for anything. Anybody that thinks a 40 is more reliable than an 80 or 100 series is seriously delusional.
Cdaniel
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Gumby said:
Cars are built better today than anytime in history. I wouldn't go back for anything. Anybody that thinks a 40 is more reliable than an 80 or 100 series is seriously delusional.
Thanks, I'm quite happy and content in my delirium. I prefer vehicles I can service and maintain with my own two hands and the space between my ears. As opposed to the technological wonders offered today. The ones that require a laptop computer and a degree from M.I.T. to understand why fuel isn't getting to the engine or a spark to a plug. I prefer my vehicles talk to me the old fashioned way, in the mechanical language I understand. Not in GPS coordinates, error codes, idiot lights and warning buzzers. I'd rather be able to handle malfunctions on the trail with the tools and parts I can bring along. Rather than be sidelined in hopes for a ride back to civilization to find an approved analyzer and replacement ECM. Granted the new breed is wonderful while they are new for a few years and you don't feel the sting of repairs under warranty. But, the day comes when the latest glitch isn't covered and it costs more than a car payment to get your vehicle "fixed" by a certified techno guru. Yep, that's me delusional and grouchy. Society will be running around in computer generated wonder mobiles someday. I'll be that gritty old SOB in the middle of nowhere manufacturing some kind of fuel to burn when the gas is all gone. Taking pot shots at trespassers with a home made EM pulse gun.
Cruise the 80 and 100 series forums and you'll see most guys do their own work, and most did not buy them new or still have any warranty. When you can hook up a paperclip and find the exact suspect component to fix, instead of spending a day replacing misc parts and still not fixing your problems, you will begin to appreciate computer engine diagnostics. I love old rigs too, have owned a few (not toyota) but I like newer vehicles too. I'll bet a survey of hardcore 80 series wheelers shows they have been slowed on the trail for broken birfs, more than they have ever been slowed down for electrical or computer glitches.
FineWynsFJ40
Too much to do...
Cdaniel said:Thanks, I'm quite happy and content in my delirium. I prefer vehicles I can service and maintain with my own two hands and the space between my ears. As opposed to the technological wonders offered today. The ones that require a laptop computer and a degree from M.I.T. to understand why fuel isn't getting to the engine or a spark to a plug. I prefer my vehicles talk to me the old fashioned way, in the mechanical language I understand. Not in GPS coordinates, error codes, idiot lights and warning buzzers. I'd rather be able to handle malfunctions on the trail with the tools and parts I can bring along. Rather than be sidelined in hopes for a ride back to civilization to find an approved analyzer and replacement ECM. Granted the new breed is wonderful while they are new for a few years and you don't feel the sting of repairs under warranty. But, the day comes when the latest glitch isn't covered and it costs more than a car payment to get your vehicle "fixed" by a certified techno guru. Yep, that's me delusional and grouchy. Society will be running around in computer generated wonder mobiles someday. I'll be that gritty old SOB in the middle of nowhere manufacturing some kind of fuel to burn when the gas is all gone. Taking pot shots at trespassers with a home made EM pulse gun.
Haha!! I couldn't of put it any better myself!! I tried fixing my dad's Tracker, nothing phased it. He finally sold it to a junkyard. Another guy bought it for dirt cheep, put a new computer chip in it, and it ran like the day it was made. I'd rather have something I can work on and understand, and occasionally fix redneck style without some little piece of silicon telling me what I can and cannot do. I like the idea of an EMP gun... heh heh. Good ol' carbureted mechanics, just the way we like 'em!
You're comparing a Tracker to a Cruiser?FineWynsFJ40 said:
FineWynsFJ40
Too much to do...
haha NO!!!! Just computer pains to good old mechanical simplicity. No, there's no way my dad's tracker could ever compare... it just goes faster, that's it!
Cdaniel
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MoJ said:
Not likely, Unless it was built before 1970. Seriously though I just parted ways with a 1994 dodge van, 125k miles (thank you Mobil 1). Totalled by an unlicensed, uninsured illeagal. I had it nearly 11 years. I nit picked the hell out of it under warrenty, mostly minor stuff. I did have some major issues, 3 tranny rebuilds, two rear ends being the worst of it. If someone else less in tune with it owned it, it would probably been left for dead years ago. Obviously, Toyota still makes a quality product, and might have a new one if I won the lottery. But until then I refuse to pay the outrageous monthly bills for a new vehicle. Payments, insurance, registration, it costs more than my mortgage! Then when/if you pay it off you have lost thousands in value, paid thousands to own it, only to begin paying the repairs when they come.
I'll keep my well worn inexpensive and quite reliable old junk thanks. ;p
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My 77 FJ40 is the newest vehicle I own.
Until I get a motorhome anyway.
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I have a Tacoma and I still want one
Just checked out my friends new Prius http://www.toyota.com/prius/ talk about electronics you just have the plastic "key" in you pocket and when you reach for the door handle it unlocks, it has a power button to turn it on... thats what I'm talking about the future. Sure this is V.1 of the FJ just give it time
Just checked out my friends new Prius http://www.toyota.com/prius/ talk about electronics you just have the plastic "key" in you pocket and when you reach for the door handle it unlocks, it has a power button to turn it on... thats what I'm talking about the future. Sure this is V.1 of the FJ just give it time
I hate carbs. I've been fighting with the Holley on the shop F-100 for a month. part of the problem it it's a Holley, but it's a manual choke carb on a truck that gets moved more than it gets driven. We've had the plugs out 3 times this month. The kids just don't have a feel for starting a cold carburetted engine, especially one with a choke. It's getting FI as soon as we get one in.
I've got another student with a q-jet on a 305 El Camino. He and his dad keep fiddling with the carb and timing to get it to run like the other family cars, good gas mileage and good performance regardless of the weather. They keep fawking it up and I have to keep fixing it.
On the other hand, a Excursion just came into the shop with a miss. 90,000 miles with 0 emmissions or driveability problems dispite no maintenance due to fuel injected computer-controlled bliss. I plugged in the scan tool. It told me the #8 cylinder was missing. A check on AllData said there was a TSB on the #8 COP. Fixed. No adjustments, no guessing. The only reason the COP quit so early was Ford built the truck around it wrong. It drips water on it.
Shops are running out of work because cars don't break like they used to. They never need adjustments and they need far less maintenance. I'm pretty happy with progress, myself.
I've got another student with a q-jet on a 305 El Camino. He and his dad keep fiddling with the carb and timing to get it to run like the other family cars, good gas mileage and good performance regardless of the weather. They keep fawking it up and I have to keep fixing it.
On the other hand, a Excursion just came into the shop with a miss. 90,000 miles with 0 emmissions or driveability problems dispite no maintenance due to fuel injected computer-controlled bliss. I plugged in the scan tool. It told me the #8 cylinder was missing. A check on AllData said there was a TSB on the #8 COP. Fixed. No adjustments, no guessing. The only reason the COP quit so early was Ford built the truck around it wrong. It drips water on it.
Shops are running out of work because cars don't break like they used to. They never need adjustments and they need far less maintenance. I'm pretty happy with progress, myself.
Cdaniel
Undocumented Mechanic-I Am Not CDAN
desertdude said:I have a Tacoma and I still want one
Just checked out my friends new Prius http://www.toyota.com/prius/ talk about electronics you just have the plastic "key" in you pocket and when you reach for the door handle it unlocks, it has a power button to turn it on... thats what I'm talking about the future. Sure this is V.1 of the FJ just give it time
Thanks Desertdude for redirecting this thread derailment. My neighbor brought home a Prius a few months ago. I went for a ride and it was kind of unnerving. Zero sound when stopped and very little when moving. He let me borrow the Toyota Tech's intro to the Prius video. Wow! The system acronyms were falling out of the narrators mouth like alphabet soup. I can't remember how many ECM's are in that thing, I lost count after five.
I still say computers we be the undoing of mankind. The smarter we make them the more lazy and stupid we become. Frankly I like having to exercise my brain to figure out why a machine is misbehaving. Too bad I can't compose this without a freakin spell checker huh?
Back to the FJ Cruiser, I wonder if it will ever be feasible to have a gas electric hybrid in a true offroad vehicle. Can the technology develop enough torque to conquer any real obstacles?
