How heavy are you? (1 Viewer)

[bloc]

We've had a "how overweight are you" thread in the past, but I figured a thread with rough setups and measured weights could help people plan their builds. I'm sure most people would agree that in general lighter is better, but some of us need armor/winch/water/fuel..

There is a UDOT scale that is often vacant but turned on just east of Monticello Utah on Hwy 491 (south of moab by a bit). Even when it's staffed, if there isn't a line of trucks I'd be willing to bet they'd be fine with you seeing what you weigh.

Total trip weight: 6300lb
Front axle: 3300
Rear: 3000

2013 Landcruiser
Interior: one occupant, second and third rows removed, mostly lightweight camping gear, 35qt cooler and ice, moderate tool bag (~60lb).
Bumpers: stock, no hidden winch or otherwise
Skids: stock
Sliders: MetalTech
Roof rack: stock, no RTT or similar
Drawers: none

Wheels/tires: 5 Rock Warrior + P-metric 285/70/17 Toyo ATIIs
Suspension: OE spacer in front, stock otherwise
Battery: stock single group 27
Water: 5 gallons in dromedary bags on floor
Fuel: none extra
Recovery bag: lifting sling, large ARB snatch strap, 4 shackles, hitch adapter

No solar or other.

Any more ideas for potentially heavy things?

 

[bloc]

Oh.. and the campsite I've used a few times in that area.

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

Great thread idea. I’m gonna put my little saved space right here and edit it later.

What would be fun, is getting a wide spectrum of various 200 weights. Then do some awesome trip together. See if it even matters.

I have a feeling it won’t, but there’s only one way to find out!

 

[sdnative]

I haven't built the 200 yet, but in the 100 I was at 7400 lbs loaded up with two adults a kid for a week in Utah. No idea what the 200 will end up at but my goals aren't as ambitious.

Front runner rack
Metaltech sliders
ARB drawers
10 gal fuel
15 gal water
Fridge
and a bunch of gear.

 

[Markuson]

I’ll add mine too (later...but it will be around 8k, when loaded for a major trip). Pretty significant differences depending on fuel (2 tanks full or empty is a lot of weight!), water & gear etc, obviously.

**For others looking for scales for the first time—It’s super easy to use CAT scales, which are scattered around everywhere for truckers.

It’s not free...costs about $11 but it makes it easy to weigh various load-outs whenever you like, and includes a print-out for whatever that’s worth.

Download the CAT scale app, and then you can conduct it all on your own. Only have to see desk if you want the printout, after you weigh. Just make sure you pull in in the right direction and look for the front/rear scales, or you end up with only a single weight.

 

[Union]

I'm sitting at 7080.

Assumptions: 2 People in the vehicle, 100% full fuel tank, 2 Pelican cases with gear along with additional gear in the back.

 

[CharlieS]

2013 Land Cruiser
Amazon Green Metallic
Black interior

King 2.5 suspension
OME 2721 rear springs

2017 Tundra TRD rims
BFG AT/KO2 285s
Spidertrax 1.25" spacers

Budbuilt step sliders (dimple down)
Budbuilt aluminum expedition skids
Budbuilt rear shock skids

Odyssey group 31/35 dual AGM batteries
Slee battery trays for primary and secondary
Redarc BCDC 1225 charger
Redarc SBI 12 Solenoid (self jump)
Blue Sea components for power distribution
Switch-Pros 9100
ARB single compressor with hose
Slee compressor tray

Black Oak 40" LED lightbar (combination lenses) on factory roof rack with WildYoats bracket
Black Oak 10" LED light bars in bumper grille (x2) combination lenses
Baja Designs Squadron pro in factory fog location (Tacoma shroud)
Rigid reverse lights (in bumper reflectors)

Reef cargo drawers (recovery gear, tow gear, jumper cables, etc)
Trail Tailor tailgate storage lid (mostly first aid items)

Placeholder for post Covid weigh in ______.

 

[tincan45]

Great idea! Weight, particularly axle weight, is something I think about often. When my LX was stock the axle weight (w/o driver) was almost perfectly balanced @ 3K/3K. As I continue to add mods mostly behind rear axle (drawers, batteries, gear..etc. ) my front axle weight is going down as my rear axle weight goes up. I can't help but think this could eventually change driving stability and overall performance on and off-road. There is a voice telling me I should add a front bumper or winch to balance things out.

What do you guys think? Any merit to this assumption?

Here are my axle weights before and after my drawers:

 

[bloc]

I found it interesting, though not really surprising given my setup, that the front axle was 300# heavier than the rear. No extra people and a couple hundred pounds of seats removed can make an impact, despite how tail heavy these things look.

 

[TeCKis300]

For hill climbing traction, some forward weight bias is usually advantageous.

 

[Rigger]

2008 LC
ARB front with ComeUp 9.5
Slee rear bumper
Slee Sliders
FrontRunner rack
OME springs all around
Cooper Discoverers on RW’s

6760# (or as us engineers would say, 6.8 kips)

 

[TeCKis300]

As a point of reference, here's the rated capacities of the 200-series. LC (top) and LX (bottom) are the same. As the two trims can differ by about ~300 lbs in curb weight, the LC has more margin of capacity for add-ons.

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR): 7385 lbs
Front Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR:FRT) 3595 lbs
Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR:RR) 4300 lbs

LC

LX

 

[terdrocket]

I just weighed with a 3/4 tank of fuel and +/-5 gallons in the 40 gallon LRA - 3100lbs Front, 3460lbs Rear = 6560lbs Total
I then topped off the main tank with 8.5 gallons and then added 30 to the LRA. 3060lbs Front, 3760lbs Rear = 6820lbs Total

This is only my 3rd or so fill up since installing the 40gal LRA and I've noticed such a change in handling, that I will soon (like ASAP) go to a stiffer spring and maybe an airbag as well. (For travelling with 3 kids, a Great Dane, and all of our luggage.

 

[CharlieS]

@terdrocket - makes sense - the tank and equipment weighs something, plus 40 gallons at 6 lbs per gallon (240 lbs) - you have a bunch of extra weight back there behind the axle.

Update: airbags I mention below are no longer available - on their way to terdrocket today.

If you want an unused set of Firestone airbags, I have a set that I was going to use, but opted for the Kings and no airbags. I won't ever use them, and would sell them for less than I paid. PM me.

 

[terdrocket]

@terdrocket - makes sense - the tank and equipment weighs something, plus 40 gallons at 6 lbs per gallon (240 lbs) - you have a bunch of extra weight back there behind the axle.

If you want an unused set of Firestone airbags, I have a set that I was going to use, but opted for the Kings and no airbags. I won't ever use them, and would sell them for less than I paid. PM me.

Plus I have this bad boy hanging off the back.

200 camera relocate

• terdrocket
• Jan 16, 2019

I did take out the 3rd row, as I realized it hadn't been used in a year or so.

Are your bags the 4164 kit? If so, I will message you.

 

[CharlieS]

Update: no longer available - on their way to terdrocket today.

 

[PhuckItImDone]

Now I wanna go find out mine.

 

[tincan45]

@terdrocket - Good info. This seems to confirm a few things for me. I noticed a change in handling after adding a bunch of weight to the back, but questioned if it was all in my head. Looks like I may be making a case for a heavy front skid. As long as I stay below 3200 on the front axle, I'm still within AHC spec.

 

[terdrocket]

@tincan45 I can lift the inside front wheel on a turn. 3 wheel motion style.

 

[tincan45]

@tincan45 I can lift the inside front wheel on a turn. 3 wheel motion style.

AWWWWWheel drive!!