Just checked mine - I cant believe i didnt see this before.
Ill be doing this for sure, Thanks a bunch Phil.
Ill be doing this for sure, Thanks a bunch Phil.
Hot drivers feet? This may be your fix.
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Add another new seal to the list, along with a new coupler. The old seal was as brittle as a Saltine and the coupler felt like a wet tortilla compared to the new one. $60 in parts, and a definite improvement in both keeping the heat out and tightening up the steering.
Can someone posts some step by step pictures on how to replace the broken steering shaft seal?
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Can someone posts some step by step pictures on how to replace the broken steering shaft seal?
Did you see the 1st post
Did you see the 1st post
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Excuse my ignorance, how do you get that seal out of the shaft?
Did you see the 1st post
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Excuse my ignorance, how do you get that seal out of the shaft?
Re-read post #1, but in a nutshell you unbolt the coupler, roll it away from the shaft, unbolt the seal and slide it off. If you get under there and take a look it becomes pretty evident. This thread was created to answer the question you ask, and Phil did an excellent job in explaining it, thanks Phil!
I got the $18 part from the stealer & installed it, kind of hard to get the 2 bolts out but okay with patience....
Thanks, guys!
PS. The old seal is completely gone (melted)
Thanks, guys!
PS. The old seal is completely gone (melted)
Should one consider this to be an addition to any PM check lists?
So the seal keeps the shaft centered...how about making a delrin(or other durable material) guide that. Could mount beneath the seal... Pretty much mimicking the sea in shape l but with a slightly smaller diameter hole for the shaft to eliminate the play which seems to destroy the seal
Real Easy Fix
Thanks for the write-up and pictures.
What I was experiencing:
I could feel some binding/catching along with a scratching sound at real low speeds while turning in my neighborhood and/or parking lots. There was a slight vibration at my feet when this happened as well. I could hear it with the windows rolled up but when I tried to listen with the windows rolled down there was nothing coming from outside the vehicle. It was driving me nuts. Makes you start thinking major steering issues are starting. I was thinking could it be a steering knuckle going out, birfs going out.
Mine was off-centered to the left and when I would turn it would push the column against the firewall and drag against the left side. Only happened when turning left.
I had to read the directions, look at it, read the directions, and look at it again to see what was meant. You really do push on the piece attached to the u-joint and it allows the two pieces to separate by bending at the u-joint.
Thanks for the write-up and pictures.
What I was experiencing:
I could feel some binding/catching along with a scratching sound at real low speeds while turning in my neighborhood and/or parking lots. There was a slight vibration at my feet when this happened as well. I could hear it with the windows rolled up but when I tried to listen with the windows rolled down there was nothing coming from outside the vehicle. It was driving me nuts. Makes you start thinking major steering issues are starting. I was thinking could it be a steering knuckle going out, birfs going out.
Mine was off-centered to the left and when I would turn it would push the column against the firewall and drag against the left side. Only happened when turning left.
I had to read the directions, look at it, read the directions, and look at it again to see what was meant. You really do push on the piece attached to the u-joint and it allows the two pieces to separate by bending at the u-joint.
Does this fix also stop big toe frostbite, brr its getting cold around here.
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Good thread, not sure if mine is worth replacing?
Just replaced mine today. The problem is not that it's not centered....the problem is that steering shaft has a serious wobble when you turn the steering wheel. In other words, if you could figure out how to center the seal, it would immediately be out of center as soon as you turned the wheel. At least that's how mine was. Not sure I'm going to worry about this seal when it tears again.
After inspecting mine, and finding it torn out like others (it's the original) I made a couple of observations.
1) the steering shaft as it comes from the box to the firewall is un-anchored at the firewall. This could be considered a design flaw/limitation as it relates to the seal under discussion.
2) the steering shaft as it comes from the steering wheel is anchored at the wheel, but by the time it gets thru the u-joint and the rubber flange, it too, allows for some play.
The seal, as designed (and mentioned earlier) will tear out again in short time, due to the movement in the shaft, allowed by the design, especially when we crank our oversize tires while rock crawling.
Perhaps the "best" solution for water and heat protection, would be to substitute a bushing or bearing with seal, mounted to the firewall in the same position as the existing seal, similar to the unit in post #30.
Can someone who still has their old seal, measure the bolt hole centers, and post the measurement please?
I'll check to see if Motion Industries has a unit with matching diameter and bolt hole centers that could be substituted.
Has anyone done any research in this area, to obtain a more stout, supportive replacement for the OEM??
Kernal, where did you find the pic of the seal in post #30 ?
1) the steering shaft as it comes from the box to the firewall is un-anchored at the firewall. This could be considered a design flaw/limitation as it relates to the seal under discussion.
2) the steering shaft as it comes from the steering wheel is anchored at the wheel, but by the time it gets thru the u-joint and the rubber flange, it too, allows for some play.
The seal, as designed (and mentioned earlier) will tear out again in short time, due to the movement in the shaft, allowed by the design, especially when we crank our oversize tires while rock crawling.
Perhaps the "best" solution for water and heat protection, would be to substitute a bushing or bearing with seal, mounted to the firewall in the same position as the existing seal, similar to the unit in post #30.
Can someone who still has their old seal, measure the bolt hole centers, and post the measurement please?
I'll check to see if Motion Industries has a unit with matching diameter and bolt hole centers that could be substituted.
Has anyone done any research in this area, to obtain a more stout, supportive replacement for the OEM??
Kernal, where did you find the pic of the seal in post #30 ?
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Could some of you guys that replaced the seal post how long you've been running the new one and how it's holding up? I know LandCrusher80 posted that his didn't last long and wanted to see if others have had the same result.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Still good installed 4/2011