Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
Is the kit from MAF .. 
Help!!!!!!!! Trans or clutch scenario
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Tapage said:Is the kit from MAF ..
Tapage...did the hose come pressed into the barb fittings already? Looks like you might have some room yet to cut and make sure it is as stright line (so to speak) as possible.
Cruiser Rookie said:
Sorry to hear that CR. When all is said and done, I know there are many who run that hose as a fail safe...evern after a rebuild.
gb
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
Greg_B said:
need to remake at least one fitting .. but is totaly posible .. you think is better more short . ?
crushers
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the line should be a straight as reasonably possible. it will be gravity fed, there will be very little pressure between the 2 points....
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Update
Well it's running again.
Found a used transmission out of Prince George for 1710$ plus 40 dollars shipping.New seal kit was 150$ from toyota,also replaced a couple of bearings in the transfer case that had some signs of ware 250$.Mechanic was very good and very fair 500$ for all the work.Expensive lesson trusting for trusting a quick lube place.
I helped put the new unit back and get me on the road sooner.Drove from Williams Lake to Yellowknife without a hitch with exception to all the other vehicules and dead buffalo in the ditch in the first blizzard of the season.7 vehicules in total and one rig that hit a couple buffalo.6 to 8 inches in a few short hours fell at the border.
Loving the locker in the slush and snow conditions.
Also went to see the quick lube place in Edmonton.Put it on the rack and showed them the screw up and all the receipts,no help as of yet.Planning on the same claims route to see if can recoup some money.
Not excepting much but i feel that i have to a least try.
I do have a question in regards to the transmission core,i was offered 500$ but i have been thinking of just rebuilding it.Any ideas on what a fresh rebuild goes for?
Does anyone know who owns the BJ60 for sale in the BC trader witht he 35"s and the exo skeleton.
More to come.
Well it's running again.
Found a used transmission out of Prince George for 1710$ plus 40 dollars shipping.New seal kit was 150$ from toyota,also replaced a couple of bearings in the transfer case that had some signs of ware 250$.Mechanic was very good and very fair 500$ for all the work.Expensive lesson trusting for trusting a quick lube place.
I helped put the new unit back and get me on the road sooner.Drove from Williams Lake to Yellowknife without a hitch with exception to all the other vehicules and dead buffalo in the ditch in the first blizzard of the season.7 vehicules in total and one rig that hit a couple buffalo.6 to 8 inches in a few short hours fell at the border.
Loving the locker in the slush and snow conditions.
Also went to see the quick lube place in Edmonton.Put it on the rack and showed them the screw up and all the receipts,no help as of yet.Planning on the same claims route to see if can recoup some money.
Not excepting much but i feel that i have to a least try.
I do have a question in regards to the transmission core,i was offered 500$ but i have been thinking of just rebuilding it.Any ideas on what a fresh rebuild goes for?
Does anyone know who owns the BJ60 for sale in the BC trader witht he 35"s and the exo skeleton.
More to come.
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
Nice to know your can found a tranny and soon you are back on the roads with you Land Cruiser ..
About the express lube center, this world ( if you believe in God ) is a big court, be sure, this place pay for it, maybe not in money, or not with you .. but gona pay.
About the express lube center, this world ( if you believe in God ) is a big court, be sure, this place pay for it, maybe not in money, or not with you .. but gona pay.
crushers said:
If the quick lube place had done the job and filled tranny with 5qts, even if empty xfer became filled due to failed seal (unlikely it would be totally empty) there would still be 2+ qts left in tranny. Am I right, and if so would tranny seize up with 2qts? Cruiser rookie, I hope you pursue your case against those chiselers. Now I'm wondering if this kit is worth getting from MAF.
Oil Return Kit (Transmission to Transfer Case)
A common problem on pre 1988 Land Cruisers is the failure of the oil seal between the transmission and transfer case. When this occurs the transfer case tends to pump gear oil into the transmission, starving the transfer case of oil. This kit connects the two filler holes, so the transmission can return oil to the transfer case as needed.
PART NO. DESCRIPTION PRICE
15000-2311KIT OIL RETURN KIT TRANSMISSION TO TRANSFER CASE $55.00
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There was no oil what so ever from what the mechanic told me.Rust was all he said when my friend spoke to him.
Thanks for the info on the by pass hose i will definitely get on that.
I forgot to mention that it got back into when at the mechanics,very very impressed since i just did did the tail gate and the rear fenders earlier in the year.Mechanic knows the offender well and says he is good for the money for repair cost.
Another thing i forgot to mention is that my running lights have been shorting out.Signals,hazards and brakes are fine but the marker lights and the running lights have developed a mind of there own.Any problem areas in wiring harness i should start.
Once again thanks guys.
Thanks for the info on the by pass hose i will definitely get on that.
I forgot to mention that it got back into when at the mechanics,very very impressed since i just did did the tail gate and the rear fenders earlier in the year.Mechanic knows the offender well and says he is good for the money for repair cost.
Another thing i forgot to mention is that my running lights have been shorting out.Signals,hazards and brakes are fine but the marker lights and the running lights have developed a mind of there own.Any problem areas in wiring harness i should start.
Once again thanks guys.
No oil! Perhaps they drained and forgot to refill. If that's the case, how could it have gone for 15,000 KM? Strange. So, your running lights are working intermittently? You're pretty observant to notice this while driving. First thing, check the bulbs, and wire connections, to see if any are loose.
Went to check my gear oil today and it came spurting out of the tranny fill plug. Xfer not dry, but low. If it's possible for xfer oil to completely drain into tranny, and it sounds like it is, guess I'd better do something about it. Glad this thread came up cuz I wasn't aware of the problem.
crushers
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if you reread this post you will see where a customer of mine had a toasted t/case for this exact reason. there is no rhyme or reason for the direction of the flow, i have seen both often. although the tranny into the t/case is more prevenlent in my findings.
Wayne,
Thanks for the info. Yes, I had remembered reading of your customer but it left two questions in my mind. First, when his fluid levels were checked, were they really checked? Consider this scenario: The service man opened the transmission fill plug, fluid came squirting out, and he ended his work with the conclusion that "yep, everything is fine" without checking transfer. The related question was, given a full tranny and transfer case to start with, if either could go completely dry by draining into the other one. Transfer draining to tranny seems like a more likely disaster scenario because the transfer starts out with less fluid. Based on your experiences and that of others, at this point I will assume that the transmission can hold 8 quarts of gear oil, rendering the tranfer case toast, and that the transfer case can also hold 8 quarts of fluid, rendering the tranny toast!
Thanks for the info. Yes, I had remembered reading of your customer but it left two questions in my mind. First, when his fluid levels were checked, were they really checked? Consider this scenario: The service man opened the transmission fill plug, fluid came squirting out, and he ended his work with the conclusion that "yep, everything is fine" without checking transfer. The related question was, given a full tranny and transfer case to start with, if either could go completely dry by draining into the other one. Transfer draining to tranny seems like a more likely disaster scenario because the transfer starts out with less fluid. Based on your experiences and that of others, at this point I will assume that the transmission can hold 8 quarts of gear oil, rendering the tranfer case toast, and that the transfer case can also hold 8 quarts of fluid, rendering the tranny toast!
crushers
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Either way, it sucks.
The symptoms to look for are catchy shifting in a normally fine sifting tranny. (Low tranny fluid can cause this)
Higher than normal noise levels in either the t/case or the tranny (low fluid levels in either)
Higher than normal fluid levels in either
Fluid coming out the shifter tower in the tranny (usually this means the t/case has had fluid added to it more than once).
In this case the tranny didn’t have fluid coming out the tower and yes it is a strong possibility that they didn’t even bother to check the fluid level in the t/case
My suggestion is either find a good shop to have the fluids checked or do it yourself and have piece of mind.
BTW, I am sorry if I came across snippy, I didn’t mean to.
Cheers
The symptoms to look for are catchy shifting in a normally fine sifting tranny. (Low tranny fluid can cause this)
Higher than normal noise levels in either the t/case or the tranny (low fluid levels in either)
Higher than normal fluid levels in either
Fluid coming out the shifter tower in the tranny (usually this means the t/case has had fluid added to it more than once).
In this case the tranny didn’t have fluid coming out the tower and yes it is a strong possibility that they didn’t even bother to check the fluid level in the t/case
My suggestion is either find a good shop to have the fluids checked or do it yourself and have piece of mind.
BTW, I am sorry if I came across snippy, I didn’t mean to.
Cheers
crushers said:
Interesting. I have just about always heard from other people and experienced it personally from the t-case to the tranny. My understanding is when the seal totally fails it will go from higher to lower (tranny to t-case) but most situations are from lower to higher (t-case to tranny).
Yes, I think a good habit to get into is to check the fill plugs on both at every oil change.
It does not take long to happen. I switched to synth a number of months ago in the tranny/t-case. I changed the engine oil at the beginning of Nov, and noticed a wet shift towner. I also had been complaining to anyone who listened that my shifting was getting ractchety. So much so I went out and bought some redline gear oil (not in yet). I drained at least 1.5l out the tranny, filled the t-case and ran the hose.
Yes, it sucks. Thankfully I caught it in time on the BJ74.
hth's
gb
the a440f in my fj62 use to go from tranny to xfer...the h55f in my bj goes from xfer to tranny ( I made a transfere tube out of steel braided aircraft hose and fittings to fix that ) .
Speaking of notchy trannys....mine has 450,000km and is a bit notchy untill warm up but not still perfect when warm. I am wondering if this shifter seat needs to be replaced .
Anybody got the p/n avail. for the seat ?
Thanks in advance , Daryl
Speaking of notchy trannys....mine has 450,000km and is a bit notchy untill warm up but not still perfect when warm. I am wondering if this shifter seat needs to be replaced .
Anybody got the p/n avail. for the seat ?
Thanks in advance , Daryl
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