HDJ81V 1HD-T Vs. 1HD-FT (3 Viewers)

[mcg]

Hey all,

I'm looking to import an HDJ81 into Canada and wanted to get your opinions on which is the better option to go with? I know of the BEB issues on the T, but my biggest concern comes down to part availability when comparing the two. With the FT only being in production for 2 years is there a big difference in part availability?

If ya'll were going to import one which one would you go with?

 

[svsisu]

Yes, very big difference in parts availability. Lots of new parts still available for the HDT including short block and head, very few pars available for the FT. Plenty of info here on mud but have to dig around: @SNLC probably has the most knowledge here in the US on these engines

1HDFT & 1HDFTE observations-discussion

Buddy, if you'd put as much time into creating a thread of your own asking your questions here on MUD, as you have in this thread ragging on @SNLC, you might have got the answers you needed already. Why come onto a public forum, bashing one guy running a commercial outfit, for not giving you...

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1998 HDJ80 with 1HDT - Refresh

The center console was faded so I took it all apart to repaint and add some more insulation for the fridge. The color is exact or very close to original. The photos may be skewed from the shop lighting. Looks great, what paint?

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You may want to seek one with a FTE...

 

[mcg]

I was considering going with a 100 series for the FTE since I don't do heavy wheeling and more of expedition and long highway miles. Thanks for the links to the other threads.

It definitely seemed there were a lot more part availability for the T on Amayama and PartSouq so I thought that might be the case that it had more availability than the FT.

 

[Hulsty]

Expedition/Long hwy, get a 100 series, thats what I have mine for. Even twin locked it is surprisingly capable (285/70R17 tyres).

 

[mcg]

I looked at an HDJ101 the other day and it felt nice for sure, might have to seriously consider going with a 100 then.

 

[mudgudgeon]

I looked at an HDJ101 the other day and it felt nice for sure, might have to seriously consider going with a 100 then.

I agree with Hulsty.

100s are a bit more refined in terms of overall comfort, NVH etc.
100 is a bit more spacious for passengers.
1hd-fte is definitely superior to early 1hd engines.
Overall, better for long highway use etc

 

[SteelHunterFJ80]

Agree with the 100 series. More room and more comfortable seating.

I have a 1hdft and have zero issues getting parts. And lots of the parts in the HD series are interchangeable. Pistons, blocks, but the heads are different. They are even a few guys who converted their 1hdfte from electronic to mechanical. Why I don't know but they did

 

[HDJ80L]

From what I've seen so far maintainance parts and auxillaries are still widely available from both OEM and aftermarket. What is a bit concerning is the availability of FT exclusive engine parts. I don't think I've ever seen even one FT injector pump online anywhere and performance shops sell modified ones only with core exchange. Spare engines are also very rare even over here. I guess in the unlikely event of catastrophic engine failures there's always the option of going towards FTE or some hybrid version in between.

 

[Skter505]

When I imported mine I specifically went for the FT. I can't compare it to the HD-T but I like it and a lot of the parts are still available and interchange. I think it I went for a 100 I'd just stick to the 4.7 V8 already available in the states. While not a diesel it's one of the best Toyota engines ever made.

 

[SteelHunterFJ80]

ADS has them... but they are higher flow ones which I would want anyway.

Toyota Landcruiser 1HD-FT - Injector Pump - GTurbo

Enhance your Toyota Land Cruiser's performance with the ADS Injection 12mm 200hp and 250+hp High-Flow Pumps, specifically designed for the 1HD-FT engine.

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[SNLC]

ADS has them... but they are higher flow ones which I would want anyway.

Toyota Landcruiser 1HD-FT - Injector Pump - GTurbo

Enhance your Toyota Land Cruiser's performance with the ADS Injection 12mm 200hp and 250+hp High-Flow Pumps, specifically designed for the 1HD-FT engine.

gturbo.com.au

$1500 core charge.

Cheers

 

[SteelHunterFJ80]

$1500 core charge.

Cheers

Yep but the question was where to get one. I don't know what the cost to rebuild an IP is these days but I'd rather have ADS rebuilt one than anyone else doing it, they're proven.

 

[SNLC]

Yep but the question was where to get one. I don't know what the cost to rebuild an IP is these days but I'd rather have ADS rebuilt one than anyone else doing it, they're proven.

The point was/is new not being available.

Cheers

 

[SteelHunterFJ80]

The point was/is new not being available.

Cheers

I was responding to @HDJ80L about not seeing any online and where to find one. Never said they were available new. Just trying to be helpful

 

[HDJ80L]

No you are right, I didn't think about it that way. Even with the core charge ~4k AUD wouldn't be too bad for a fresh replacement pump, although I'm sure their supply is very limited as well.

 

[SNLC]

Well, the point I have been trying to make in my posts about FTs is that there are NLA parts. Most of these you won’t need unless building an engine from scratch or say converting an FTE. There is the rare chance though that you will need an injection pump at some point. I have seen cracked housings and lots of internal damage from water. Ofer just experienced a mechanic not doing some work correctly which destroyed his outer timing cover, a part that is NLA. He had to source a used one.

If I was purchasing a diesel powered 80 I would for sure go for the FT. If I was doing a swap, it’s FTE.

I wouldn’t bother with a T for a swap, not worth it in my opinion unless you got a good used engine and are doing it on the cheap. I may consider buying a T powered 80 if it was the right price and Cruiser.

I think people should consider the NLA parts when buying an FT powered 80 or even more if doing a swap. Some day it will be an issue and that is likely before it is an issue on the 1HDT or FTE.

Cheers