Hard to balance LX wheels?

[Nickslexi]

I was checking tire pressue this morning ( running them at 40psi.) and noticed how much weight is on every wheel on my LX450. I run the factory wheel with 33" BFG AT's. Anyone else have this issue with needing a lot of weight on the wheels to get them to balance?

 

[corsair23]

My Toyo MTs (285/16s) have 2 weights on each wheel...Never paid attention to what size weights they are but they are small.

Compared to the number of weights that had to be used on my 40 with 33x12.5 MTRs, I would say no, I don't have any problems with the LX

 

[dogcatch'n]

check both sides of the wheels, inside and outside and make sure that they didn't leave the old weights on when they replaced with new tires and balanced..you will see weights on the wheels, that are oppossing each other...

 

[Beowulf]

Anyone else have this issue with needing a lot of weight on the wheels to get them to balance?

Balancing issues are more dependent on the tire than the wheel.

-B-

 

[nutsaboutsoccer]

Some of my BFG 31" on brand new wheels have over 3 ounces of weight on them.

 

[hoser]

I was checking tire pressue this morning ( running them at 40psi.) and noticed how much weight is on every wheel on my LX450. I run the factory wheel with 33" BFG AT's. Anyone else have this issue with needing a lot of weight on the wheels to get them to balance?

It's the BFG's. I previously had REVO's on those exact wheels and they balanced easily. The BFG's wouldn't balance well so I took them to another shop with a GSP9700 and the tech said 3 of the 5 tires are borderline... Not quite defective but not perfect either. FWIW, my current 35" Toyo MT's balanced much easier and with fewer weights.

 

[Nickslexi]

Thanks hoser, feeling great about that . I was think of changing tires anyway, these AT's howl soemthing fierce.

 

[hoser]

You might try and take them to another tire shop that has a Haweka adapter. I cannot recall if the shop I brought it to used the adapter or not. Maybe do the two tires with the most weights first and see what happens.

 

[Sarmajor]

I have BFG MTRs and they have lots of weights on them. Something to try is siniing the rims without tyres and seeing if they have a haevy spot and then fitting the tyres and spinning them and then rotating the tyres until the heavy spot on the rim and the heavy spot on the tyre are opposite then balancing the combination. In New Zealand some of the tyre shops call this the optimization balance.
Bigger tyres always seem to need more weight IME.

 

[Grench]

Compared to the number of weights that had to be used on my 40 with 33x12.5 MTRs, I would say no, I don't have any problems with the LX

My 285/75R16 MTRs take a bunch of weight too.

 

[MikePL]

Yes, if you have lots of weights on different parts of the wheel, then it means that you should balance them somewhere else next time. The idea is to put one weight outside and one inside (if necessary). If the weight is appropriate and well positioned on the rim, then you don't need another one.
My wheel guy takes the tire off many times and puts in on the rim so that the imbalance of the rim and tire oppose each other. Then he only needs small weights to fine tune. But he is old and has been balancing tires all his life. He is not in a hurry.
Many mechanics tend to bolt weights to your wheel as if it were a christmas tree. They simply want to get rid of you and don't give a damn.

 

[MikePL]

I have also heard of the haweka adapter. It is supposed to grab the wheels by the lugs and not the hub, just as it is grabbed by the truck. This is a good approach with steel tires which are very often welded from many sub-components and their hub hole could be off-center, but aluminum wheels are molded and machined from one part with the hub hole as center, so they can also be balanced the usual way.

Am I right?

 

[hoser]

Seems like most Toyota wheels can balance fine without the Haweka adapter however, there is a Toyota TSB:

(SU002-96) Wheel Balance Adapter Kit

"9/2/1996 - All Toyota Models. To improve the accuracy of Dynamic Off–Car wheel balancing on all OEM Toyota five and six lug wheels, a precision wheel adapter kit must be used. For the greatest accuracy and repeatability, Toyota recommends using the Haweka adapter kit available through the Toyota Approved Dealer Equipment catalog. The kit consists of a precision ground centering cone for truck alloy wheels and a flange plate."

The Haweka Adapter is listed as one of Toyota's Special Service Tools.

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