GX460 Transmission fluid cooler (2 Viewers)

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I know the chart says above 240* F is not good, and the trucks warning system alert the driver at 260* ish F, then maybe my worries about hauling my boat (max load) are unfounded. I never received a warning or noticed anything unusual other than the slight warm smell in the first 10-20 miles of the trip when I hopped out to check the trailer hubs. That first leg of the journey I tried to stay in 4th and 5th to keep TC locked. After I smelled the warm smell I switched back to D the rest of the journey and kept it around 55 mph the rest of the trip. I went ahead and got a blackstone labs sample kit and will be sending a sample of the factory fill when I change it soon. I'm at 20k miles so its probably a good time for the first change, I may just do a drain and fill and clean the magnets next time.
 
Generally accepted ATF operating temps and transmission life expectancy. Many different charts out there from different sources but they all say the same thing at the end of the day.

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Last weekend hit 228° in the torque converter briefly coming up the bluffs pulling 3K+ lbs. but sump never broke 198° where previously the sump would often also rise and equal TC temps and hold for quite some time. Really happy with the Hayden 698 and pinning the bypass for summer.
Some of those charts are based on old spec/tech. AAMCO, Jasper and TCI love to tell people that they need new components based on that guidance. What is good for a Slimjim, TH400 or 4L80E running Dexron/Mercon fluids is not necessarily good for modern Toyotas.

That said...neither myself nor anyone in my extended family going back two generations has ever had a transmission fail in any vehicle we have owned. I think it really comes down to careful maintenance and some luck.

Edited: Not to take away from your suggestions but the GX has built-in safeguards as @Acrad has mentioned. The vehicle will let you know before you are in really bad shape. Selecting the correct gear and speed for the load will almost always keep you out of trouble.
 
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Some of those charts are based on old spec/tech. AAMCO, Jasper and TCI love to tell people that they need new components based on that guidance. What is good for a Slimjim, TH400 or 4L80E running Dexron/Mercon fluids is not necessarily good for modern Toyotas.

That said...neither myself nor anyone in my extended family going back two generations has ever had a transmission fail in any vehicle we have owned. I think it really comes down to careful maintenance and some luck.

Edited: Not to take away from your suggestions but the GX has built-in safeguards as @Acrad has mentioned. The vehicle will let you know before you are in really bad shape. Selecting the correct gear and speed for the load will almost always keep you out of trouble.
I'm going with luck ;)

Put 120K on early 90's Dodge Dakota and "only" went through 2 trannies. They were notorious for eating trannies as well as Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth minivans back then. Got tired of the constant repair on the Dakota. Common saying on the Dakota board was at least they are easy to work on.

Had more than 100K on a Nissan truck without any issues back when they first came out right after they transitioned from Datsun to Nissan. No model number just Nissan truck. So I bought an Xterra my experiment with American vehicles was over. Found out about the SMOD Strawberry Milkshake of Death from leaking ATF and engine coolant so kept an eye on it. One day the overflow tank was pink so I traded it in on a new second gen Tacoma. 11 years no real issues.

FJ55 in the 70's and 80's no real problems, it had issues like all vehicles back then but it kept running. S10 did as well although paint peeled off it in sheets LOL.

Youngest son first vehicle 17-18 years ago was a second gen T4R with 130K on it. Owned and maintained by a lady at work that worked in maintenance. He got ~12K out of it before the transmission went.

Toyota has had some issues with transmissions over the years. Third (AKA Turd Gen) Tacoma's are a prime example. Friend has one with the typical TC shudder. Solution was to add a can of shudder fix :rolleyes:

Never had to work on vehicle transmissions but did on ships main engine double-helical, locked train, articulated double reduction gear assembly's.

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The hydrodynamic lubrication oil wedge prevents the teeth from actually contacting the other set of teeth. Bearings, turbines, pumps, heat exchanges, a lot of machinery crammed in a tiny space that I lived in at least 16-18 hours a day. The plant has a sound and feel to it much like a living being that you are always aware of. And can tell when things are good, or going bad.

For most of 20 years was someplace near the equator normally off the cost of some damn sandbox. But a few one off excursions to the Bering and Norwegian seas where air and water temps were 20-30 degrees cooler. The whole plant purred like a kitten in the cooler temps, most all machinery casualties were in the warmer temps.

You will often hear that heat kills transmissions for a reason. Which is why in the PXXX code fix thread one of the first things I picked up on was the geographic location of where most people lived that were having failures. Of course towing and stop and go traffic in some city will also do the same thing, generate heat. Someone on here only got 80K out of his GX on here before the tranny went, he lives in Arizona.

A Hayden cooler is a lot cheaper than a new tranny but you can have too much of a good thing. There are minimums that must be met as well which is why I went with a TStat Hayden. With the possibility of quite a few other issues it is all a roll of the dice in the end. We can try our best to minimize the chances of failure across the board, but in the end the roll of the dice have a bit to do with it as well.
 
I think I already added this, but if you have a GX460 and add a cooler, make sure you pin your transmission thermostat. It is under the truck and has a little button you push down and slide a pin into to hold the thermostat open. Why? Because it only opens at 200 degrees unless you pin it. That means no matter how much transmission fluid you have, it will sit there until it is 200 degrees before it will open and flow to the cooler....even if you add an aftermarket. So, pin your thermostat, add your coolers, and enjoy!
 
I think mine has now been pinned for over 5 years straight. I did do a seasonal removal when I put my OEM cooler in back in 2019 but finally just left it in the following year.
 
With the possibility of quite a few other issues it is all a roll of the dice in the end. We can try our best to minimize the chances of failure across the board, but in the end the roll of the dice have a bit to do with it as well.
Those dice have been passed down generations last I checked from George Washington's stable hand. They're good!

I don't buy vehicles that have less than 6-7 years on them for myself. Wife gets all the new stuff. Gives me time to research what models/years have issues, My last 4Runner is nearing 300K after selling it two years ago at 220K. New owner loves it and takes good care of it. Toyota designs good stuff. I'm not going to try and outsmart them.
 
My last 4Runner is nearing 300K after selling it two years ago at 220K. New owner loves it and takes good care of it.
Wow, 80k in ~2 years. That's a lot of driving.

I'm nearing 200k. The anticipation is real.
 
Wow, 80k in ~2 years. That's a lot of driving.

I'm nearing 200k. The anticipation is real.
He had just retired when I sold it to him so he has everywhere to go. We carpooled in it to multigun matches for years, so he was already attached to it. I imagine he is running it harder than I ever did, smiling all the way. 😍

Edit: My GX is at 147k, just double the milage of what the original owner got while paying less than half for it. I have definitely got my money's worth. It should take me 8-10 years to reach 300k from here.
 
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