re_guderian
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Fuuuuu... Dream killer....
The dream is still alive!!!!Looks like it's connected with an arm and two joints, so there is some play. Also lets the tire arm swing on a different plane than the barn door.
GX460 & GXOR B.S. thread (31 Viewers)
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Thank you. I’m sure am happy with it. When the rig was stock and I was trying to envision it, wasn’t quite too sure how it would turn out. But I’m loving it now. Yea it's hard to look at these trucks in stock form and see the potential. When we first got ours I had very little desire or...
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Swing out spare tire carrier?
Sorry but this is strictly for the state park crowd. Any real trail and you will destroy the low hanging fruit. Fuel cans near the work service, someone will inevitably set up a camp stove and cause a fire or explosion. Zero recovery capability. If you are stuck you will need to unload that rack...
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I plan on using a rubber bushing'd tie rod that I had leftover from another car to do the same, except (hopefully) with more isolation when I build something similar.
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Aside from the articulation interaction between the barn door and the swing out, there has to be a way to lock the swing out in place when closed or it will be slapping back and forth the arm connected to the barn door.
The other issue is, on mine (MetalTech), I can open the swing out, leaving the barn door closed so I can open the rear glass. We do that so we can stick surfboards out the back and rest them on the spare tire when the swing out is closed.
If the swing out is connected to the barn door, and how the spare sits on the swing out in the picture, how would you ever open the rear glass?
But again, you may never need to, but for us, yes we need to have it open.
^Yea I definitely see the convenience factor of the Expedition One bumper or some other way to connect the swingout to the door. But I also still have hangups with the weight of the swingout and tire hanging out the door, even with the pretty elegant solution of ball joints that Exp One has. I feel the same way about the JW door carrier. I think it works for plenty of people, but east coast rock ledges and my own stupidity would make me forever worried that I would tear the barn door metal.
re_guderian
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My learning from this is that rear bumpers come with an extremely high hit to utility. I had one on my 80 series, but it was a third vehicle and not dailied. Having to open a separate swingout every time you want to get into the rear for groceries, etc just plain sucks. Plus I don't think I can get the car into my garage with a standard rear bumper. That sucks, too. That's why I just beat the s#!t out of my plastic bumper and carry an OEM spare... 
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I've been running a dirtcom trailswing for almost 3 years and the GX is my daily. A single swingout is fine, a dual swing on a daily would get old fast. I've pulled the bumper partially off a couple of times off road and it's only a matter of time until i break it more.
My learning from this is that rear bumpers come with an extremely high hit to utility. I had one on my 80 series, but it was a third vehicle and not dailied. Having to open a separate swingout every time you want to get into the rear for groceries, etc just plain sucks. Plus I don't think I can get the car into my garage with a standard rear bumper. That sucks, too. That's why I just beat the s#!t out of my plastic bumper and carry an OEM spare...
I agree with this
The GX is my grocery getter and I hate the barn door, add in another swing out just shoot me. Now. With a trailer hitched it is a real PITA don't need another thing in the way. And my driveway has a steep slope down, one of these days I swear that damn door is going to come back and pin me LOL. Getting up there in age and that door gets heavier as time goes by to open especially on a slope, trust me. Used to gauge the quality of bodywork in a pickup by how heavy the tailgate was. If using the same metric on the GX it is... well a Lexus! An advantage of the Lux is off road keeping it below 15 mph I can raise the rear a couple of inches and that helps with the departure angle. Disadvantage is that you have to remember to use it, especially if you have sped up and it has settled back down.
Have had mine on for a year on Michigan roads (if you know, you know). A few notes. The internal part of the door has a brace that connects to the outer bracket of the door. This helps with rigidity that prevents flexing of the sheet metal too much. It does flex some, but not enough to distort it. If you followed when they debuted it, it used to pinch right above the right side of the license plate frame. It doesn't do that anymore. The only maintenance on the bumper is filling the hinge with grease and checking clearance with the swing out and the bump stop on the door. On initial install it was tight for me but loosened up over the first month. I have noticed the bumper and carrier do flex on washout roads, but the link can flex up and down, in and out as well due to the greased joint providing some play in all range of motion. The only thing that I didn't like was there is interference with the rear air bag pump, so I am finally addressing that by notching a new bracket (mine was rusty, and two bolts stripped, and I just zip tied it for now) to fit around the wings for the bumper sides.
Overall I'd recommend, it is very easy to open and close. The only issue with closing is it needs a heavier damper on the door (tbd) to keep the door from slamming hard. I also ordered a new door latch bumper stop so the door does not rattle with the additional weight. You can still use the pop window if you position the tire far enough away from the bumper, otherwise you lose that function if you care. Basically my opinion stands the Exp One is the best one on the market for an all-in-one solution. If you don'y buy the Exp One bumper then the Dissent and Victory is your next best bets (Dissent preferred). But if you want a single hand operation door you can only get it one place. And the salt has not destroyed the bumper btw. Great powdercoating so far. There are areas that no powdercoating will be able to get 100% (any 90 degree machined areas), so the solution is grind it down and jb weld it, then touch up paint.
Hiluxforever
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Got the brakes done on the 4Runner today. Went as well as to be expected in a common garage space with about 70% rh. At least it was relatively cool. Rotated tires as well.
I'm going to dig around on this topic and this might be a mild firestarter - thoughts on SL vs LT tires? I am looking at the Falken Wildpeak AT4W.
I'm east coast. I don't currently do any off-roading so I can't imagine I'd be getting into aggressive rock crawling from the start. I have a friend with some property that has some trails with some varying terrain, but it was never heavy on needing to get over big rocks. I don't even plan to get a lift in the very near future, but I want to get some wheels and tires sooner than later.
Otherwise I snowboard so I spend as much time as I can in the snow.
I'm leaning towards SL due to my current use but I also don't want to significantly handicap the abilities. The reading I've done on the internet seems to say that the SL should cover any light off-road duty I'll likely encounter.
I'm east coast. I don't currently do any off-roading so I can't imagine I'd be getting into aggressive rock crawling from the start. I have a friend with some property that has some trails with some varying terrain, but it was never heavy on needing to get over big rocks. I don't even plan to get a lift in the very near future, but I want to get some wheels and tires sooner than later.
Otherwise I snowboard so I spend as much time as I can in the snow.
I'm leaning towards SL due to my current use but I also don't want to significantly handicap the abilities. The reading I've done on the internet seems to say that the SL should cover any light off-road duty I'll likely encounter.
SL Wildpeaks for nearly 4 years here - first AT3Ws and now AT4Ws. Zero flats or punctures, ever, and the rig has been wheeled a lot. We have lots of sharp rocks; Ozark gravel/trails are known for tearing up tires. Wildpeak SLs are pretty heavy/robust anyway. I personally can't see a reason to get LTs on one of these unless it's a dedicated trail rig.
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You'll more than likely be fine with SL load tires.
You'll be fine with SL tires. I've only used SL on my GX (265/70/17 for 3 years, and 285/70/17 for the last 6 months) and I do a fair amount of offroading. I have no issues playing on the rocks or airing down.
Thank you all for the feedback. I'll take the $150 savings and better ride quality.
Now to prepare to mess with the fender liners and find that flat bolt for the rear part of the front wheel well. Plan is 17x8.5 +0 on 265/70. I read it'll be pretty easy but seems I should be prepared to make some minor tweaks.
Now to prepare to mess with the fender liners and find that flat bolt for the rear part of the front wheel well. Plan is 17x8.5 +0 on 265/70. I read it'll be pretty easy but seems I should be prepared to make some minor tweaks.
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Saw a 2024 Land Cruiser / Land Crusier (the car so nice they named it twice) going the other way as I drove down to Missouri yesterday. No gravitas.
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I'd go 1958 for the round headlights and cloth seats.
Not sure if anyone on Mud knows about Fortune Auto, but they're 10 minutes down the road from me and want to get into truck suspension. I let them borrow the GX for a couple days for laser scanning and was borrowing my buddy's 6 speed FJ. I miss driving stick, but also driving the FJ around is funny because it's kind of like the GX but everything is just much crappier.
How do the Greenstuffs stop? I'm throwing in a set this weekend. 33s made my brakes a bit less responsive than I'd like.
Hiluxforever
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Fresh after bedding they are great but a few thousand miles later and they feel more like the oem brakes. I plan on rebedding after doing the rears.
Are they looking to get into truck stuff? They finally realized we have more money than sense lol. I wonder if BC or KW or Penske or any of the road aftermarket companies will start to get into it as well once one of them do.
