Well, I'm dumb. I just realized this was a new thread. Thought it was a couple years old, whoops.Whatever happened with this? I'm starting to look into roof racks for my 2013. FR and Prinsu are still the most popular? I'm surprised there isn't more feedback on this thread from other FR owners given how popular they are. I have a Prinsu on my Tacoma. Zero rust and super quiet. I like the look of the FR but need to find out if like you said it was a QC issue with yours or if they're low quality in general.
I would guess 150-200 to PC a rack.Depending on what the price comes out to, I may just order a rack from Ben and be done with it. At least I know for certain what to expect from him.
I just got someone called Sameer from Front Runner saying my Ticket has been update ... Not sure what that meant , I told him they suck and I will spread the word ... LOL ... Not Sure who said Front runner was good getting problems fixed ... That is a load of crap .
I just ordered new 316 stainless hardware from McMaster Carr , at least my fasteners will not rust , just make sure you use some form of thread lube if your upgrading to stainless steel is a good tip , stainless likes to cross thread if you don’t lube the threads .
A few things:
Black oxide (BO) will 100% rust. The treatment itself is a controlled rust...that's what the "oxide" means. This should not ever be used for exterior hardware.
I doubt they used BO hardware. They likely used a black zinc flake or phosporus treated, which is common beyond words. However, they are available with different levels of topcoat to create different levels of rust inhibition. They likely grabbed a fastener with a low hour-to-rust value and ran with it. Yes, this reduces the fastener's cost.
Do not expect anything better from McMaster unless you look to pay up for a high hour-to-rust (>250) rated fastener.
Stainless is not truly stainless. It will rust, it just takes longer. Most fasteners are 304SS - which is a pretty low grade. Lots of regular zinc coated fasteners have better rust resistance. Also, thread SS into raw aluminum and you can pretty much forget about ever getting it out as it they will nearly instantly gall together.