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is there any easier way to remove the pins off of the rear shackles?
From Rust to Righteous (FJ60 Build)
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are the bolts fused to the rubber? Heat is the answer. Warm them up until the bushings are smoking and then drive them out. Not a fun job.
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Dad proposed a new idea, just go to town on them with a sawzall and lubricant and it seemed to work!
springs are pretty much off, going to be putting in the lift soon tomorrow
Unfortunately, with whacking the sledgehammer around the back end a whole bunch of rusty flakes were falling off...
Turns out my box frame really really wants to be a C channel...
springs are pretty much off, going to be putting in the lift soon tomorrow
Unfortunately, with whacking the sledgehammer around the back end a whole bunch of rusty flakes were falling off...
Turns out my box frame really really wants to be a C channel...
I think Bikersmurf is correct and those spring plates are upside down.
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are you saying my springs are backwards, or my shackles are upside down?
No...like they both said..."spring plates".
could be the pic, but they look wrong to me too...
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would it change the ride if the springs were backwards anyways?
as for the spring plates, what do you see is wrong?
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Ran into a bit of trouble today, it seems my rear OME Heavy spings are too short, any ideas on how to make them... longer?
Option 1...yell at the guy you bought them from until he exchanges them for ones of the proper length..
Option 2...go to princess auto and buy a spring stretcher...
I recommend option 1.
If they they really are too short, you're kinda hooped. how short are we talking?
they do tend to almost invert the shackle when they're new, but if you can't even get the shackle to connect they may be the wrong springs altogether.
60 and 70 series rears are the same, so all that's really left is 40 series, and they're a LOT shorter. More like the front springs you put on.
For the spring plates, they're sorta dished right? well that dish needs to be facing DOWN when sprung under.
IF you can look at them now and see that they'd hold a cup of water inside them, they're upside down.
The flat needs to be on the spring. Could just be the pic...
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Oh s***, you're right about the plate...
As for the rears, ill be able to get a decent measurement tomorrow.
It could be as simple as them being OME Heavies and just removing a leaf from the pack and that might loosen them up a bit (Turning them into OME Medium)
Right now its a big struggle trying to get the shackles on, I even took out the anti inversion pin from the shackle in hopes i could get some length...
We'll see tomorrow...
As for the rears, ill be able to get a decent measurement tomorrow.
It could be as simple as them being OME Heavies and just removing a leaf from the pack and that might loosen them up a bit (Turning them into OME Medium)
Right now its a big struggle trying to get the shackles on, I even took out the anti inversion pin from the shackle in hopes i could get some length...
We'll see tomorrow...
Where did you get them and how short are they. It does take a bit of effort to get the shackle in. Also the one with the plus goes on driver side if I remember correctly.
Not much. You might need to park across a ditch with two wheels in it to sofften up your springs.
Spring plates upside down will create a strespoint leading to preamature failure.
I'm not sure about 60 springs but I seem to recall that the 40 ones the axle isn't mounted dead center... so I assume you'd end up with a different pinion angle and horrible shaking + possible drive shaft binding.
also I know with the 40 ones the front's/rear's are different lengths... you didn't put the rear's in the front did you?
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Definatley have the right springs in the right place, as for the sping plates those have been flipped back to normal...
Called up ARB tech today, and they suggested using a ratchet strap when the springs are bolted to the axle to compress the spring so the shackles can go in.
Only problem is that there needs to be some serious pushing and shoving around the rear axle to get the rear springs bolted to the axle before I compress them, but once thats done, ill give them a good compress, get those shackles in, and we should be good to go (In Theory)
Another idea would be to pull the springs out of the hanger mounts, put the shackles on them and only have to deal with one pin to fit in vs 3 on a shackle...
Called up ARB tech today, and they suggested using a ratchet strap when the springs are bolted to the axle to compress the spring so the shackles can go in.
Only problem is that there needs to be some serious pushing and shoving around the rear axle to get the rear springs bolted to the axle before I compress them, but once thats done, ill give them a good compress, get those shackles in, and we should be good to go (In Theory)
Another idea would be to pull the springs out of the hanger mounts, put the shackles on them and only have to deal with one pin to fit in vs 3 on a shackle...
I usually put the sprint in with the axle on some big jack stands so its' not weighing down on the springs when I"m trying to lift them up to the shackles...
Also I have always done this with used/old springs never a nice shiny new set.
Also I have always done this with used/old springs never a nice shiny new set.
I wouldnt pull the pin from the hanger its a bit harder to line up ...
I would recommend that u mount the springs on the hangers ... Mount the springs to the axle.. U can use axle stands or mount the tires to the axle... mount th shackle to the frame.. Or to the spring... Then strap a block of wood to the frame in front of the shackle .. Then use the weight of the truck as u lower it down to flatten out the spring so u can put the last bolt in the shackle... Grease your bolts and bushings.. Makes installing them easier...
I would recommend that u mount the springs on the hangers ... Mount the springs to the axle.. U can use axle stands or mount the tires to the axle... mount th shackle to the frame.. Or to the spring... Then strap a block of wood to the frame in front of the shackle .. Then use the weight of the truck as u lower it down to flatten out the spring so u can put the last bolt in the shackle... Grease your bolts and bushings.. Makes installing them easier...
OK, here is what you do mount the non shackle side to frame first, then push spring up to frame with jack and apply pressure till it gets close enough to the shackle to get it in, you may have to help it slide down the frame. For the axle you can either mount it or lift it as high as possible to get it out the way. Also the military wrap side is the one that goes to the frame, if you put them on backwards it will be difficult to put axle in due to the offset of center pin on the springs.
Jay
Jay
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This one seems like the most viable option, going to try this tomorrow...
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Between some cussing, bleeding, and sweating, the springs and shackles are in!
only stopped by one bad bolt!
Getting the rear tires on tomorrow and we'll be set!
only stopped by one bad bolt!
Getting the rear tires on tomorrow and we'll be set!
