Ford power window motors?

[cody c]

hey peeps,

My power windows are something slow in this cold weather, I seem to recall some info about swapping the power window motors from junkyard Ford trucks but can't find any threads on it.

Anyone confirm this? And what years are compatible?

Regards!

 

[ccslider]

Probably your window channel run seals. The rubber gets old and shrinks which makes the window operate slowly

 

[jeeprjames]

I was able to take apart my old motors and clean all the internals, reassembled and reinstalled. They now work quite a bit better than before. Also did the window seals shortly after.

 

[gummycarbs]

If it's the front windows, just get a motor and regulator set of eBay or Amazon, around $100 for the pair. Replacing the channel run seal will help, too, but it's not as much of a friction problem in the front.

If it's the rear, you can remove the regulator and motor assemblies, clean and regrease them, and you'll probably see improvement. But most of the problem is likely caused by the channel run seal, since the two sides are parallel on the back windows.

 

[6DollarRooster]

I rode in an old Ford truck (maybe early 90’s) that had ridiculously fast power windows. It really blew my mind how lighting quick they were. I hope someone has your answer. This could be cool.


Rick

 

[flintknapper]

I rode in an old Ford truck (maybe early 90’s) that had ridiculously fast power windows. It really blew my mind how lighting quick they were.
Rick

^^^^ That's because they have a real, live window motor. Huge by comparison to what we have in our cruiser.

The windows are not only 'fast'....but powerful too. You don't want to have your hand/arm out the window when it goes up.

I love my Cruiser...but even when the windows are working correctly, they suck compared to certain other vehicles.

My '90 Model Bronco doesn't begin to compare to my Cruiser in any other category, but when it comes to having good, fast, reliable power windows....it wins hands down.

Edit to add pics and comment:

The Ford (OEM) window motor is 'big' by any standard. Almost as large as the motor on a small ATV winch. I timed the driver's side window on my Bronco and on my Land Cruiser. Both windows retract and raise approximately 19", but the L/C window is about 8" wider.

The Land Cruiser has a fairly new window motor in it. The Bronco window motor is at least 15 yrs. old (last time I changed it). The L/C I keep pretty clean (window glass and silicone spray the channels), the Bronco is a ranch vehicle and is covered in dirt and dust most of the time.

The Bronco: Window went down is just under 2.5 seconds. Window went up in just over 2.5 seconds.

The Land Cruiser: Window went down in right at 3 seconds (so not that different from the Bronco). Window went up in just a tad over 4 seconds.

 

[mudgudgeon]

The L/C I keep pretty clean (window glass and silicone spray the channels), the Bronco is a ranch vehicle and is covered in dirt and dust most of the time.

There's something in this ^^

I used graphite powder on my HDJ81 window rubbers, it works much better than silicone.
I reckon Silicone "washes" the rubber clean, makes it smooth, and after the silicone is gone, there's more friction against the rubber.

My work hack has a gutless drivers door window motor. This car is almost always covered in dust from being on construction sites. When it's dusty, the window goes up no problem. If I wash the car, or there is a slight shower of rain, it struggles. As soon as the car is dusty, all good

 

[cody c]

Thanks for posting the pics flintknapper!

I need to swap in one of those, my windows are closer to 30 seconds to go all the way up in the summer, winter is much worse

 

[flintknapper]

Thanks for posting the pics flintknapper!

I need to swap in one of those, my windows are closer to 30 seconds to go all the way up in the summer, winter is much worse

^^^^^^ Whoa....!

Well you definitely need to do something. I have no idea if a Ford Window motor can be used on our Land Cruiser window regulators or even if there is enough room in the door for the motor. But....IF it can be done....I can't help but think it would be an improvement.

Of course....it is blasphemous to put non-Toyota parts on a Toyota product...so if you manage to do this, prepare to be the 'pariah'.

 

[BlueCruiser84]

Thanks for posting the pics flintknapper!

I need to swap in one of those, my windows are closer to 30 seconds to go all the way up in the summer, winter is much worse

Please do this. Lightening fast windows would be amazing. Window speed is the worst feature of a land cruiser.

 

[cody c]

Please do this. Lightening fast windows would be amazing. Window speed is the worst feature of a land cruiser.

^^^^^^ Whoa....!

Well you definitely need to do something. I have no idea if a Ford Window motor can be used on our Land Cruiser window regulators or even if there is enough room in the door for the motor. But....IF it can be done....I can't help but think it would be an improvement.

Of course....it is blasphemous to put non-Toyota parts on a Toyota product...so if you manage to do this, prepare to be the 'pariah'.

I have a few non toyota parts in mine already... The worst being an added fuse box from a cherokee probably, but it keeps the lights on.

Not sure when I'll have time, but I'll have to tear open the door panels and see how much room is in there to accommodate a ford unit. Not sure if the toyota wiring would handle the ford motor either, might have to look at that as well.

 

[ZackR]

Reminds me of my 1994 Volvo 850. The power windows on that thing would crush your fingers if you let it. I could "probably" stop it with my hand but was too scared to try.

The windows in my 1994 cruiser need every watt of power they can get to go up in the winter (summer they are fine).

 

[asutherland]

I'd also heard about this modification, years ago... did anyone actually do it though?

I've replaced both front window runs in my old hdj81, very little difference. Probably needed both window runs AND motors replaced. Dorman part number, perhaps?

Subscribing...

 

[cody c]

I've been too distracted. A long list of distractions that are much more interesting, but I still need to get to this mod/swap.

My garage is in dissaray at the moment, selling some un-needed equipment to make space, and am receiving drawers/shelving for behind the 3rd row to assemble this week, then back to the one tons swap / hunting day trips. Maybe I can recruit a friend to hunt the junk yard...


Anyone got a pic of the stock 80 front window motor assembly? Plug and play would be nice, but probably not compatible without mods.

 

[ecameron87]

All four of my windows have always been slow, even with a new regulator. I have always wondered if there is a shortage of amps or volts going to the motors, or maybe a bad ground. Door locks are also weak. Has anyone experimented with hooking up a car battery directly to the master switch or directly to the motor to see if there is a loss of amps/volts somewhere in the vehicle wiring?

 

[bucketman]

I’d try a multimeter first. Much easier.

 

[BILT4ME]

I’d try a multimeter first. Much easier.

Nah....Just run 00 cable to and from each motor.....you'll be good.

 

[aktundra]

Anyone got a pic of the stock 80 front window motor assembly? Plug and play would be nice, but probably not compatible without mods.

Driver’s window motor. Motor attaches to the door via the 3 threaded inserts

 

[flintknapper]

Nah....Just run 00 cable to and from each motor.....you'll be good.

I've often wondered if a small 12v to 24v. step up converter could be wired into the door lock system to 'boost' it.

My door locks all work...but not with authority. The door locks on my LX470 'slam' open and closed...there is no mistaking if they are locked or unlocked. On my 80 series....I have to check them sometimes to be sure they locked.

 

[Eicca]

I've often wondered if a small 12v to 24v. step up converter could be wired into the door lock system to 'boost' it.

My door locks all work...but not with authority. The door locks on my LX470 'slam' open and closed...there is no mistaking if they are locked or unlocked. On my 80 series....I have to check them sometimes to be sure they locked.

I would guess your lock actuator motors are just worn.

Subscribing for interest.