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But if he does a V8 swap, wont it still be carbureted? So yeah, he would have a V8, but it would be a carb'd V8. I am pretty new/ignorant on this stuff, but isnt that still kinda a drawback? Wont he still have to jump through the same "hoops" that owning a carb'd car brings? Like starting it in those cold mornings etc etc?
So 2 years in and the upgrade to fuel injection has been treating you really well huh? I dont live at near your elevation. In fact I am closer to sea level than not. But, what did it all end up costing you in the end? I just got my first 60. A '83 and I already am looking at those carbs like they need to go lol.
Bought my rig in 2012 and suffered with a Carb (4 of em) until 2018 ish when i got the sniper. It served me well. I dnt really kinow what it cost bc I had a lot of other work done at the same time. But, prlly pid more than i shldve
But you still own that rig? Its been a really great investment?
I do...its in the shop getting body+paint, then an LS3 transplant and a bunch of other things. wish I did the Sniper years earlier...but was great when I had it. Dsnt matter anylonger ")
Ohhh so do I understand correctly that youre totally swapping the engine out now, and will be adding a whole new FI system?
ya...an LS# Erod crate dealio....6.2L. Gnna be moar funner
.Thanks for this input! I was just sitting here thinking about tuning. And how a tune might be all someone like myself (not even 1k above sea level) might need. But then I realized; I have no idea how to tune a '83 2F lol. There is no computer right? So how would one tune an engine when you cant just slap it on a tuning computer...I just want to add a little to this topic. I have an 85 with a 2F. I rebuilt the motor and everything else in the drivetrain about 25,000 miles ago. I have a stock carb,recurved distributor and most of the smog removed. I am still running the HAC because I live at higher elevation and go up from there. Other then needing a little time to warm up, my 60 runs great all the time. I have wheeled at 13,000 feet in Ouray Colorado and not had a single problem with fuel starvation. I guess the point I’m trying to make is, if you tune your 2F correctly it should run good everywhere. My biggest reservation about going fuel injection is relying on a computer controlled system that can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. A stock 2F is so basic that baring a major mechanical failure, you can usually get it running and back to civilization. I do agree it takes a little more work to keep them running at peak performance but for me, that’s part of the appeal to owning a vintage rig. Good luck with your decision and remember, it’s Your rig,so do what you want
Just find a FSM online or in papar copy and learn about it. The manuals are very thorough. Just make sure it’s a Toyota FSM. I had never owned a Land Cruiser before I got mine six years ago. And thanks to the FSM’s and this forum I have completely rebuilt it from the ground up.
I just want to add a little to this topic. I have an 85 with a 2F. I rebuilt the motor and everything else in the drivetrain about 25,000 miles ago. I have a stock carb,recurved distributor and most of the smog removed. I am still running the HAC because I live at higher elevation and go up from there. Other then needing a little time to warm up, my 60 runs great all the time. I have wheeled at 13,000 feet in Ouray Colorado and not had a single problem with fuel starvation. I guess the point I’m trying to make is, if you tune your 2F correctly it should run good everywhere. My biggest reservation about going fuel injection is relying on a computer controlled system that can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. A stock 2F is so basic that baring a major mechanical failure, you can usually get it running and back to civilization. I do agree it takes a little more work to keep them running at peak performance but for me, that’s part of the appeal to owning a vintage rig. Good luck with your decision and remember, it’s Your rig,so do what you want
I am mostly happy with the Sniper, but this advice is pure gold! With a carb, your 60 would likely still run after an EMP attack (You will not be able to buy gas howeverI just want to add a little to this topic. I have an 85 with a 2F. I rebuilt the motor and everything else in the drivetrain about 25,000 miles ago. I have a stock carb,recurved distributor and most of the smog removed. I am still running the HAC because I live at higher elevation and go up from there. Other then needing a little time to warm up, my 60 runs great all the time. I have wheeled at 13,000 feet in Ouray Colorado and not had a single problem with fuel starvation. I guess the point I’m trying to make is, if you tune your 2F correctly it should run good everywhere. My biggest reservation about going fuel injection is relying on a computer controlled system that can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. A stock 2F is so basic that baring a major mechanical failure, you can usually get it running and back to civilization. I do agree it takes a little more work to keep them running at peak performance but for me, that’s part of the appeal to owning a vintage rig. Good luck with your decision and remember, it’s Your rig,so do what you want
). If you learn the carb, it's unlikely to ever leave you stranded where as the sniper has very few remedies for trail fixes. My O2 sensor went bad once and I was lucky to get home.
This was my issue too. Im not mechanically inclined nor wish to spend every spare minute i had trying to get the Carbs to run well at 3 different elevations (live at 9600 ish, drive at 5-7000 ish on the reg) And it just never ran smooth ie, stalled often ect. Simply starting it on colder days was a waste of time...(went thru cpl batteries) For me the Sniper eliminated cold weather starting issues (fired up immed even after days sitting) Eliminated stalling...its just ran amazingly smooth, ALWAYS! With the carbs its was a constant battle that i surrendered too... having a reliable rig was far more important as There was no other option geting to my cabin at 9600' in Dec-MArch. Gl
Sounds like the issues I had the 1st 6 years of ownership... however, add my elevation situation and it was just a constant nightmare. Atleast you were able to wrench your fix...My rig went to a shop everytime there was an issue. I still have 4 OEM carbs that never worked right... prlly shld sell em and free up space.My truck idled at 1000 rpm when I got it and started ok. When I got it home I adjusted the carb and fixed the high idle but then had a stalling problem. I set the timing and then adjusted the valves which were massively loose. Then I set the timing again. Truck ran great and started better too for a while. After that I did a full desmog and adjusted the carb again. Truck starting was great at first but stalling problem and starting got progressively worse. In the end I had to redo the entire manifold system. Did all new gaskets and seals and finaly solved the stable idle, starting, and decel stalling issues.
Then the bottom end developed a knock and I’ve not had time to drop the oil pan to investigate
You should
. OEM carbs are getting harder to find in good shape.I keep a spare ready to go.
And where is that 2F engine going????
