FJ40 Ambulance Doors

[76Cruzr]

I've looked, so sorry if this is a repeat thread... Trying to figure out if there is a difference between pre and post '79 Ambulance doors. I've been told that there is no difference, but I read somewhere else that the corners are not the same. Will a '79 and older set of rear doors fit earlier models? If not a direct bolt-on, what mods need to take place. Considering buying '79 doors to fit my '76 but want to be sure they fit.

Thanks!

 

[hodag]

Not sure about 76', but I do know that there is quite a bit of fab to make a set of 79s' work on a 74'. The hinge holes are not in the same places, and the edges of the opening are not the same.

Hodag

 

[Living in the Past]

The outside corners on the 79 and later doors are rounded to match the tub change in 79. I used a set of 77 back doors on my 79 didn't fit great but worked. I think using 79 doors on a 76 would work better but I don't know how well it would seal in the lower outside corners. But the difference is nothing like installing ambulance doors on a 74. A 76 tub is already made for ambulance doors.

John

 

[petescoffee]

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=59665

Link to a picture of some doors off of my 1975 that are 4 sale.

 

[Franky40]

I have a friend with a 76 that is thinking of getting rid of his ambulance doors to change to a tailgate. Located in Utah let me know if you are interested, I can ask if he wants to sell.

 

[Texx]

The doors are interchangable from 75 to 83, with the exception of the rounded corner. I always use whichever is the least rusty, and either radius the corner of the earlier door for a late tub with a grinder, or weld a square edge on a radiused door for an earlier tub. Five minutes fab either way, everything else is identical.

 

[greensleeves]

The doors are interchangable from 75 to 83, with the exception of the rounded corner. I always use whichever is the least rusty, and either radius the corner of the earlier door for a late tub with a grinder, or weld a square edge on a radiused door for an earlier tub. Five minutes fab either way, everything else is identical.

texx.... can you shoe me how you did this? i am trying to mount rear doors from an 80 to my 76 and it sounds like youv'e done it a few times. any help would be appreciated

 

[pb4ugo]

Texx hasn't been on this site since 2014. If you click on his avatar you will sometimes find this type of info. Maybe by you quoting his post it will email him, but don't hold your breath.

 

[Living in the Past]

Texx hasn't been on this site since 2014. If you click on his avatar you will sometimes find this type of info. Maybe by you quoting his post it will email him, but don't hold your breath.

If the last time on the site isn't there I clicked on the members posts which will show the last time they posted on the site. If it's been years good chance they are no longer visiting the site.

texx.... can you shoe me how you did this? i am trying to mount rear doors from an 80 to my 76 and it sounds like youv'e done it a few times. any help would be appreciated

What happened with the top you had on your 76. Hopefully you didn't cut the post on the sides of the 80 top like you did 76. There is a plate with a hole down in the B pillar. Then a bolt on the back side of the B pillar. Loosen the nut and back the bolt out. Takes the wiggling but the sides fit as long as the posts are straight. A flash light will show what your dealing with. Never paid attention to if this is covered in the owners manual. Like most FJ40s my 68 was missing the tool kit and owner manual by the time I bought it in 1974.

Curious have you even tried to install the doors. I picked up a 78 top to use on my 79. Had the doors on for a while until I found some doors off a 84 HJ47RV troopy from Australia. Was just a little interference in the lower corners. Unless your 80 top was from a South America cruiser with a locally made top it should bolt right on with just a gap in the lower corners.

 

[greensleeves]

If the last time on the site isn't there I clicked on the members posts which will show the last time they posted on the site. If it's been years good chance they are no longer visiting the site.



What happened with the top you had on your 76. Hopefully you didn't cut the post on the sides of the 80 top like you did 76. There is a plate with a hole down in the B pillar. Then a bolt on the back side of the B pillar. Loosen the nut and back the bolt out. Takes the wiggling but the sides fit as long as the posts are straight. A flash light will show what your dealing with. Never paid attention to if this is covered in the owners manual. Like most FJ40s my 68 was missing the tool kit and owner manual by the time I bought it in 1974.

Curious have you even tried to install the doors. I picked up a 78 top to use on my 79. Had the doors on for a while until I found some doors off a 84 HJ47RV troopy from Australia. Was just a little interference in the lower corners. Unless your 80 top was from a South America cruiser with a locally made top it should bolt right on with just a gap in the lower corners.

No, i havent tried to install the doors yet, still waiting on the seals... will try next week when they come in...
The top to the 76 was lost in a fire.
I am not sure what this means "Hopefully you didn't cut the post on the sides of the 80 top like you did 76"

 

[Living in the Past]

The top to the 76 was lost in a fire.
I am not sure what this means "Hopefully you didn't cut the post on the sides of the 80 top like you did 76"

If the hard sides are setting upsidedown the post at the front. Those posts will fit all the way down into the tub at the back of the side doors. B pillar is the area right behind the side door. On the back side up pillar will be a threaded hole. Should be a bolt in the threaded hole. The. A nut tightened against the B pillar. Nut needs to be loosen and bolt backed out. This allows the post to slip down. Inside the B pillar is a plate with a hole the same size as the post on the hard top side. Once the post slips in that plate the bolt is tightened against the post and the nut tightened against the tub. This help prevent the side from rattling and five the top extra strength in an accident. Here is some hard top sides sitting up side down with posts on top. Running thru your posts from few years back you said you cut these on the 76 top.

How were the shells of the old ambulance doors? Possible to be used with parts off the 80 ambulance doors?

 

[greensleeves]

If the hard sides are setting upsidedown the post at the front. Those posts will fit all the way down into the tub at the back of the side doors. B pillar is the area right behind the side door. On the back side up pillar will be a threaded hole. Should be a bolt in the threaded hole. The. A nut tightened against the B pillar. Nut needs to be loosen and bolt backed out. This allows the post to slip down. Inside the B pillar is a plate with a hole the same size as the post on the hard top side. Once the post slips in that plate the bolt is tightened against the post and the nut tightened against the tub. This help prevent the side from rattling and five the top extra strength in an accident. Here is some hard top sides sitting up side down with posts on top. Running thru your posts from few years back you said you cut these on the 76 top.

How were the shells of the old ambulance doors? Possible to be used with parts off the 80 ambulance doors?
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oh... i see... no, I had shortened that original top posts.. but the new top all posts are intact and the top is nice and tight!

 

[Living in the Past]

oh... i see... no, I had shortened that original top posts.. but the new top all posts are intact and the top is nice and tight!

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Personally I would test fit the doors before installing the new weatherstripping. You decide to weld in a patch in the rear corners and end up having to remove it in that area.