first gen windshield replacement

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Just got an email today from them. It is still on BO and the oem is available for around $266 shipped. yikes! That's almost as much as buying new stock trim. Not sure what i'll do.

pickup,
did you order from the website i described? the 4x4world or whatever?
I talked to them last week and they said that it was still on back order from the manufacturer for at least 2 weeks.

as far as what goes in the 1st vs 2nd gen windshields, mine (88) is definitely gooped in. but i dont know if its supposed to be that way. it was some stupid **** one of the POs did. its oozed out everywhere. probably going to break all the trim trying to get it out.
dont know about 2nd gen.

as far as leaks, i dont think that it will leak if its put in properly. maybe if you wheel the truck and it flexes a whole lot it might develop a leak but i am using this truck as a dd. so it should be fine. cant imagine toyota would manufacture something (especially for use in the outback) that leaks easily.

plus i was planning on liquid urethaning the windshield in using the rubber gasket. that should definitely hold it right??
 
Little update on this Aussie rubber gasket. I ended up going with the oem rubber, got it several weeks ago. Fast forward to this weekend, tried installing it. After several attempts, having issues with centering the windshield, I've come to the conclusion that it will not work. I think the dimensions of the U.S. glass is larger than the Aussie windshield it doesnt seem like much maybe an 1/8" or so would need to be removed from each side.

When trying to install it I would get the gasket on the lower portion and driver pillar on and the other ends would be hanging out a 1/4 maybe more. I did notice when I was installing the rubber around the windshield getting ready to fit it in that I had to stretch it just a little to fit. Anyway, I wanted to let the people who were curious about this know since some were considering buying the aussie gasket. If I had more time something could be done to make it fit. I think the only option would be to cut/trim the windshield. Hope this helps!
 
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Little update on this Aussie rubber gasket. I ended up going with the oem rubber, got it several weeks ago. Fast forward to this weekend, tried installing it. After several attempts, having issues with centering the windshield, I've come to the conclusion that it will not work. I think the dimensions of the U.S. glass is larger than the Aussie windshield it doesnt seem like much maybe an 1/8" or so would need to be removed from each side.

When trying to install it I would get the gasket on the lower portion and driver pillar on and the other ends would be hanging out a 1/4. I did notice when I was installing the rubber around the windshield getting ready to fit it in that I had to stretch it just a little to fit. Anyway, I wanted to let the people who were curious about this know since some were considering buying the aussie gasket. Hope this helps!

So Im confused? :confused:

You have a second gen rig (84-88) with a stock glue in windshield.

You ordered a rubber weatherstrip gasket for a first gen rig (79-83).

Now you are warning others that it wont fit their second gen rig?


Duh. Just glue the winder in there and be done with it. :meh:
 
No, if you would have taken the time to read the whole thread the windsheild gasket is for the 84-88 body style trucks/4runners (Aus and other countries), people were wondering if it would work on ours (U.S.). Again if you would have read the whole thread you might have known that before writing your pointless post DUH!!! :rolleyes:
 
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sr5pickup,
that is a disappointment. darn!
when i talked to the guys over in Australia they were sure it would fit.

also, i am pretty sure i linked back to a yota tech thread earlier in this thread where someone had done this exact thing with no problem. maybe it was the aftermarket gasket, not the oem one though. edit: yeah check my second post, the bottom link. post #56 on the yota tech thread. the guy used the aftermarket gasket. so maybe they are different??

dont know. maybe something is going on there.
did you clean off all of the old glue down to sheet metal?
 
Little update on this Aussie rubber gasket. I ended up going with the oem rubber, got it several weeks ago. Fast forward to this weekend, tried installing it. After several attempts, having issues with centering the windshield, I've come to the conclusion that it will not work. I think the dimensions of the U.S. glass is larger than the Aussie windshield it doesnt seem like much maybe an 1/8" or so would need to be removed from each side.

When trying to install it I would get the gasket on the lower portion and driver pillar on and the other ends would be hanging out a 1/4. I did notice when I was installing the rubber around the windshield getting ready to fit it in that I had to stretch it just a little to fit. Anyway, I wanted to let the people who were curious about this know since some were considering buying the aussie gasket. Hope this helps!

just cut your windshield .. fairly easy to do ..
i'll buy the gasket off you if you dont use it

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Yeah that was a thought, would need to figure the correct dimensions before attempting it, unfortunately I don't have much time to do so. I'm gonna keep it for now until I or someone else figures it out.

brian89

I think both aftermarket and oem are the same because the oem rubber I had was stamped with the same part # as the aftermarket on the inner part of the rubber.
 
Yes. if you really want it to work most glass shops will cut an install it for you.
It's a not that hard any time I chop top a Vw I send it out to be done cause I can do alot of things but I do t cut glass. $100 bucks most of the time and that some times covers the cost of new glass if they break it.
 
Why the desire to have a crappy window gasket?

I hate that style gasket. They always leak and help to rust out the lip faster. And like said already the glue in style adds strength to the cab.

If you glue in a window properly it will last the life of the rig easily.

A tube of urethane is 10-20 bucks as compared to the gasket which will still need sealer.


Why try so hard and spend extra effort and money just to use an inferior way?

Please give me the pros, cuz all I see is cons.
 
Guess when I posted to this mine popped out!I'm glad it did 40 bucks a it's done. It gave me a chance to fix the rust under it.
 
Did your response contain any actual reasons to counter my thoughts on the window gasket/sealer pros and cons or did it just contain some BS that you were ashamed of and had to erase like a liddle sissy.

This message has been deleted by NorCalBorn. Reason: Not worth replying to Choppy's bait. Ignore switch is easier.


If you say it, be a man and leave it up for all to read. Theres allot of HGPDers on this site.
 
I'm in the glue it in camp but I think the perceived advantage of the gasket (if I understand correctly) is that it elminates the trim pieces which cover the urethane sealant.

If I was going to use a gasket, I would have it installed like an 80 model: windshield glued to gasket and gasket glued to body.
 
*There's a way to say things and then there's being obnoxious.

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Chop Shop said:

~Thanks to the guy who told me about the post reply but he's on ignore and until I hear he's actually helping I'll keep it like that. The O/P I'm sure is meaning the trim pieces being replaced by a single piece of rubber top strip like my 1st-Gen Rig had (I think they used a trimmed down Plymouth Voyager one). I don't feel like getting temp banned again for debating this silliness.
 
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I'm in the glue it in camp but I think the perceived advantage of the gasket (if I understand correctly) is that it elminates the trim pieces which cover the urethane sealant.

If I was going to use a gasket, I would have it installed like an 80 model: windshield glued to gasket and gasket glued to body.

I'm with WDE. Windshield gaskets suck, pure and simple.
Before long, it'll start to shrink. Just use the glue and be done with it.
 
the biggest issue is with the IDIOTS at the glass shop that remove your windshield and replace it !!

usually what they do is cut it out with a razor blade , and then just "kind of " clean it up , and then "squirt" the new urathane on to "hopefully" seal everything up .. well you an I both know , this is where the rust comes from .. what should happen , is ....... cutting it out with a razor blade is just fine , but they need to take the time to clean off all the old urethane , and then PRIMER , and SEAL the metal exposed .
Unless you stand there and watch them .. they normally wont do it , unless maybe a "quality shop" ..

I have also used the weatherstrip .. extencivly .. biggest problem with leaking , is not replacing when needed , and trying to "get by" with the old one .. replace it , and you'll have NO problem ! or at least in the 30 years I have been doing this , I havent !!

i'M a little hesitant to recommend the weatherstrip instead of the urethane though .. the urethane offers strength in a roll over , or crash situation , as the windshield becomes a `structural` piece but also the weatherstrip offers longevity , if you use it correctly , you will not have the rust issues

Personaly .. i dont drive to `roll`my truck .. so I`m infavor of the gasket


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the biggest issue is with the IDIOTS at the glass shop that remove your windshield and replace it !!

usually what they do is cut it out with a razor blade , and then just "kind of " clean it up , and then "squirt" the new urathane on to "hopefully" seal everything up .. well you an I both know , this is where the rust comes from .. what should happen , is ....... cutting it out with a razor blade is just fine , but they need to take the time to clean off all the old urethane , and then PRIMER , and SEAL the metal exposed .
Unless you stand there and watch them .. they normally wont do it , unless maybe a "quality shop" ..

I have also used the weatherstrip .. extencivly .. biggest problem with leaking , is not replacing when needed , and trying to "get by" with the old one .. replace it , and you'll have NO problem ! or at least in the 30 years I have been doing this , I havent !!

i'M a little hesitant to recommend the weatherstrip instead of the urethane though .. the urethane offers strength in a roll over , or crash situation , as the windshield becomes a `structural` piece but also the weatherstrip offers longevity , if you use it correctly , you will not have the rust issues

Personaly .. i dont drive to `roll`my truck .. so I`m infavor of the gasket


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i completely agree with bj bumperboy. and this is why i started the thread in the first place. the glass-pro type shops that do the urethane goo replacement around here (chuck town, south kakalaki) are ALL HACKS! they do exactly as bumperboy has described. i have seen it numerous times.
that is why i sought out possible solutions, (ie the rubber gasket) and i also liked that it eliminated the costly and ugly trim on the windshield.

but, I do agree with others' posts that the rubber gasket is not as strong as the hardened urethane. and i could see where it could leak if not installed correctly as well.

so basically, its all a crap shoot really.:bang: so, since i have waited over two months with no response from the Australian company who supposedly has these aftermarket gaskets, I am going to try and have the urethane gasket redone.

but before I even pick up the phone, I am going to pull all the trim off MYSELF, pull the interior trim off MYSELF. Remove the windshield and clean out ALL of the goo, MYSELF, and address any rust/bare metal issues that might be lurking under there MYSELF. That way all those high school drop out crack heads have to do is come glue in the new one, and put a generic rubber trim on, because I have decided that, no matter what, that is all they are going to do, regardless of what you ask them, and that is all they are good for. gluing s***.
 
Sounds like you've had some bad experiences. The guy that did my 80 LC and my 85 4Runner could pretty much quote me the procedure out of the respective Toyota FSMs verbatum. He was also prepared to talk to me about what urethane they use and how it compared to the Toyota factory kit, etc. In other words, he knew his s*** pretty well.
 
man, i wish we had competant ppl like that.

does he work for a chain that might be in charleston? or do you think he could reccomend someone?

he sounds like the kind of guy i need.
 
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