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...but I will drink your beer 
"finish" then sell, or sell now???
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OH THE PAIN!!! Well either way you can still drink a beer...After you keep the Tootsie Roll! 
Besides anyone can buy an FJ or a Taco. I know that the 60 appeals to your artistic side! Classic lines, Smooth curves, and the horsepower ain't that bad either!
Besides anyone can buy an FJ or a Taco. I know that the 60 appeals to your artistic side! Classic lines, Smooth curves, and the horsepower ain't that bad either!
Frank, when Baja calls my name, I'll just borrow yours
I don't know. I still can't get myself to even list the damn thing!
It's a shame you can only have one. I really think you are going to take such a bath by selling it right now that you might as well keep it. I'm not knocking your rig at all, but it wouldn't surprise me if you couldn't even get 3K out of it. Not because it isn't worth more, but because nobody is buying right now. So I think you need to figure out the market first and then make your decision. It is one thing to say you can't have 6K tied up in a second vehicle and need it toward a new vehicle. It is another to say you absolutely need $2500 toward a new car that you are willing to lose $3kin the process to do it.
I have gone back and forth about selling mine since I will be getting a 4runner soon. At one point, I thought I might get 5K. I really wonder if I could get $2k right now. So I might as well keep it. It is taking up space, but there aren't any payments. And maybe in a year or two, the market will be back up and I'll sell it for $5 or $6k. Or maybe I won't feel like selling . . . I've seen some very clean rigs on craigslist in the 5-6 range and I keep seeing the same ones week after week.
Just have a value in mind at which point you say to yourself it's stupid to get rid of it. Good luck either way.
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Agreed. I'm definitely gonna take a bath on it, but I won't take less than $6,000. That's at least one good thing about Los Angeles, there's a market for anything. I may have to wait a bit, but I'm confident there's a buyer for this rig locally. I guess I'll see what happens whenever I list it.
Philos, is she paid for? if so then there is no reason to sell it. if you have a small child then you have another reason to keep it. You really want your little one riding around in a small unibody car? ever seen what a full size truck will do to and econo box in a collision?
Don't get me on my soap box about "murder cycles". Fix it, sell it, don't fxxxing ride it anywhere. Ive buried 3 friends that died on motorcycles, 2 of the 3 did nothing wrong and got drilled by some dip**** nose picker not paying attention. There are LOTS of those people in LA.
keep yer 60, go get a turbo diesel mercedes and run veg oil if you need to save money on gas.
/Sgt Dad mode off.
Don't get me on my soap box about "murder cycles". Fix it, sell it, don't fxxxing ride it anywhere. Ive buried 3 friends that died on motorcycles, 2 of the 3 did nothing wrong and got drilled by some dip**** nose picker not paying attention. There are LOTS of those people in LA.
keep yer 60, go get a turbo diesel mercedes and run veg oil if you need to save money on gas.
/Sgt Dad mode off.
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Kid will NEVER ride in a small car. period. commuter would be for me only. Moto in some form or other will always stay, some habits are too tough to give up...
I can always get another 60 or perhaps an 80 later.
the 60 needs to go so that I have the cash to actually purchase another vehicle (or at least part of another vehicle). If I have a good year, then I can upgrade all around.
I do appreciate the "Sgt dad mode" though.
I can always get another 60 or perhaps an 80 later.
the 60 needs to go so that I have the cash to actually purchase another vehicle (or at least part of another vehicle). If I have a good year, then I can upgrade all around.
I do appreciate the "Sgt dad mode" though.
Time for a stubby pencil exercise
I couldn't follow your math on $80 for motorcycle gas vs. $600 for FJ60. My # scrunchin' = 88 mpg for your Motorcycle vs. 12 MPG for 60. Polite people refer to those high MPG bikes as mopeds around these parts.
Just for comparison sake, at one time I owned a sports car that was impossible to put $3 into the tank. Desmogged on highway, it avg. 38 MPG, so ~ 350+ miles per tank. These days, I can't fill up the gas can for my JD garden tractor for $3.
FIGURES YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION:
miles travelled / month / accurate MPG of FJ60 = gal. of gas used X $/gal = monthly fuel cost
repeat for proposed gas miser (use EPA's updated MPG ratings)
1987 Toyota Land Cruiser Wagon 4WD
Manual 4-spd
6 Cylinders
4.2 Liters
Regular Gasoline
New MPG tests are more realistic
New EPA MPG
10 City
11 Combined
12 Hwy
Old EPA MPG
11 City
12 Combined
13 Hwy
The difference is what running the FJ60 will cost you each month.
This estimate supposes your gas miser = FJ60 for insurance costs & maintenance; and neither vehicle requires more pocket $ than the other to keep it running each month.
You estimate that figure for the FJ60 is $600; so a miser getting 2XFJ60 MPG will save you $300 each month; or $3600 per year. Maybe a Corolla would get you 3XFJ60 MPG; or $4800 per year in savings.
At the current cost of fuel, 4 years of savings >= today's cost of a new Corolla.
Seems to be obvious to other MUDDERS-helpers that a Corolla won't fit your lifestyle, which is only costing you $4800/yr more to live than a Corolla lifestyle at today's cost of gasoline.
As for selling: I sold 2 FJ62s for 2/3 the cost of the new to me 97 LX450, which gets ONE MPG better. And I paid ~ 2/3 of what the LX450 was worth a year ago. No change to lifestyle. I'll buy a new vehicle when mfgs. provide something I'll settle for with 4XLX450 MPG. I can rationalize this only because we fill up the tanks once/month on avg. I intend to plant the yard in buffalograss.
I couldn't follow your math on $80 for motorcycle gas vs. $600 for FJ60. My # scrunchin' = 88 mpg for your Motorcycle vs. 12 MPG for 60. Polite people refer to those high MPG bikes as mopeds around these parts.
Just for comparison sake, at one time I owned a sports car that was impossible to put $3 into the tank. Desmogged on highway, it avg. 38 MPG, so ~ 350+ miles per tank. These days, I can't fill up the gas can for my JD garden tractor for $3.
FIGURES YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION:
miles travelled / month / accurate MPG of FJ60 = gal. of gas used X $/gal = monthly fuel cost
repeat for proposed gas miser (use EPA's updated MPG ratings)
1987 Toyota Land Cruiser Wagon 4WD
Manual 4-spd
6 Cylinders
4.2 Liters
Regular Gasoline
New MPG tests are more realistic
New EPA MPG
10 City
11 Combined
12 Hwy
Old EPA MPG
11 City
12 Combined
13 Hwy
The difference is what running the FJ60 will cost you each month.
This estimate supposes your gas miser = FJ60 for insurance costs & maintenance; and neither vehicle requires more pocket $ than the other to keep it running each month.
You estimate that figure for the FJ60 is $600; so a miser getting 2XFJ60 MPG will save you $300 each month; or $3600 per year. Maybe a Corolla would get you 3XFJ60 MPG; or $4800 per year in savings.
At the current cost of fuel, 4 years of savings >= today's cost of a new Corolla.
Seems to be obvious to other MUDDERS-helpers that a Corolla won't fit your lifestyle, which is only costing you $4800/yr more to live than a Corolla lifestyle at today's cost of gasoline.
As for selling: I sold 2 FJ62s for 2/3 the cost of the new to me 97 LX450, which gets ONE MPG better. And I paid ~ 2/3 of what the LX450 was worth a year ago. No change to lifestyle. I'll buy a new vehicle when mfgs. provide something I'll settle for with 4XLX450 MPG. I can rationalize this only because we fill up the tanks once/month on avg. I intend to plant the yard in buffalograss.
Airbags won't help the kid cuz she's not supposed to be exposed to it-right?
Anti-lock brakes-meh. At least you're in the right part of the country to benefit from them. They convey no advantage that I can see in slippery road conditions-just put a post in Chit Chat on this subject.
Jeez, I wouldn't even consider selling my 62 in order to sink a bunch of money into the purchase of an FJ Cruiser. Makes me wonder if you know something about your 60 that you wouldn't want a prospective buyer to know.
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4xoddic, I don't really count miles, but I put nearly all my gasoline on one card and I pay it monthly. That bill averages $600. My last bike got around 55-60 MPG (1970 CL450), new one is a 1970 CB450 and I'm actually rebuilding the whole motor (factory specs). A commuter car would likely be 20 MPG or better. If I stick to the bike (easy here with no weather) that number goes way up. It will likely be a combo of the two.
89Gashog, she won't be a baby forever and she will eventually be of age to where airbags are good. When was the last time you saw icy conditions in LA? as to there being "something I wouldn't want a prospective buyer to know" you obviously don't know me. I'm a pretty stand up guy. I just get REALLY frustrated driving a 60 in LA traffic. get me on a road trip or in Baja and then that's a very different story (which is why I'm feeling conflicted about selling). I will always have use for a larger vehicle. That's where "a Tacoma OR an FJC" would help out - IN THE FUTURE. On days where I would use one of them to commute, the modern conveniences would be a blessing. That is worth some cash to me. That is also why I've spent so much getting it to where it is now.
I do wish in retrospect that I had gone with an auto tranny when I did the motor swap (the H-55 does shift slowly), but I like the 5 speed offroad.
89Gashog, she won't be a baby forever and she will eventually be of age to where airbags are good. When was the last time you saw icy conditions in LA? as to there being "something I wouldn't want a prospective buyer to know" you obviously don't know me. I'm a pretty stand up guy. I just get REALLY frustrated driving a 60 in LA traffic. get me on a road trip or in Baja and then that's a very different story (which is why I'm feeling conflicted about selling). I will always have use for a larger vehicle. That's where "a Tacoma OR an FJC" would help out - IN THE FUTURE. On days where I would use one of them to commute, the modern conveniences would be a blessing. That is worth some cash to me. That is also why I've spent so much getting it to where it is now.
I do wish in retrospect that I had gone with an auto tranny when I did the motor swap (the H-55 does shift slowly), but I like the 5 speed offroad.
Personally, if I could only keep one car to do everything (commute, travel, recreation) the 60 would be gone in a second. I would even keep my 02 Explorer (which I hate) over the 60 (which I love). Seriously. Newer, auto everything, more reliable, more comfortable, safer, better mpg. The fact of the matter is a newer car, i.e. Tacoma or FJC, will likely do everything you really ask your 60 to do, and do a thousand other things better. (And I'll take a newer ABS any day of the week over a non ABS car)
I still think you should try to keep the cruiser as a second vehicle. But I also think your logic is sound for replacement. There are more factors than just gas.
I still think you should try to keep the cruiser as a second vehicle. But I also think your logic is sound for replacement. There are more factors than just gas.
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and now the badness starts...
I've listed it in the for sale section.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-trailers-sale-wanted/236973-fj60-vortec-tootsie-roll-socal.html
cheers.
I've listed it in the for sale section.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-trailers-sale-wanted/236973-fj60-vortec-tootsie-roll-socal.html
cheers.
