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Favorite non-Diesel Expedition engine
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HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
Why not work with what you CAN get? It isnt that difficult to get a good diesel engine down here.
It's not legal in California.
brian
SILVER Star
Diesel?...Yes!double the range (have to carry less fuel) and double the torque!... and triple the reliability.
what motors you looking at?
iirc a 2f makes a few pounds more than a 2h, or at least is real close to it.
All non-turboed toyota diesels make less torque than the 2F. But add the turbo and you get more torque.
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
Maybe so, but find me a 2F that gets 25+ MPG? My 1HZ is just fine with that....... When I turbo it it's going to hammer that 2F AND still get 25+ MPG!
Maybe that's not a big deal now, but wait until fuel is 4.00+ dollars a gallon. That mileage difference is going mean something then......
Hey, I'm a fan of toyota diesels but the question was about torque AND this thread is supposed to be about non-diesel engines. Also, I have read on 'MUD that it is not uncommon to only get an average of 17mpg not 25+. I hope to run on WVO when I have the money to do the swap. But the 2F is a grunty engine you can lug the hell out of. It's peak torque is at 1800 rpm, which is a lower peak than any of the toyota diesels. It does give more torque than any toyota diesel engine from the same era or later (non-turbo).
22RE
(realistically a 2FE)
(realistically a 2FE)
I have yet to read a claim from an owner that says a turbo (or non turbo) 1HZ gets over 25 mpg.
I have heard various times that the 1HZ gets less than 20 mpg US...
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/4wd-overland-tech/estimating-fuel-consumption-30209
http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=9993&highlight=&sid=e4ab143c77d982b8c92f8c40f1434506
different ways of meausring fuel consumption but they all work out to high teens and LOW 20s MPG U.S.
I can't imagine a heavy SOA 60 Series doing any better.
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
Good points. Still, B99 is at 3.00 a gallon here in my home town. As gas rises it makes things even more desireable.... Even if things were equal, the sound alone is a wonderful thing.....
Good points. Still, B99 is at 3.00 a gallon here in my home town. As gas rises it makes things even more desireable.... Even if things were equal, the sound alone is a wonderful thing.....
I'm wit ya on that!
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
Ooh, ooh, I forgot about the smell... The french fry smeel rocks too!
Look, now that Audi has won the 24 hours of Le Manns two years in a row with a TDI, short of top fuel dragsters there is no automotive application that a trubo diesel isnt superior to a gass in!
Diesel's forever baby!
Look, now that Audi has won the 24 hours of Le Manns two years in a row with a TDI, short of top fuel dragsters there is no automotive application that a trubo diesel isnt superior to a gass in!
Diesel's forever baby!
1FZFE, no question. Iffy headgasket not withstanding.
Easily a 300,000 mile motor if cared for in a somewhat regular fashion. It also benefits from being able to pull the skin off of a custard as opposed to a 2F or 3F...
Easily a 300,000 mile motor if cared for in a somewhat regular fashion. It also benefits from being able to pull the skin off of a custard as opposed to a 2F or 3F...
It also benefits from being able to pull the skin off of a custard as opposed to a 2F or 3F...
but just barely!;p
