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I decided to put new fluid in my fan clutch, and do a write up on it.

This is a fan clutch on a 1985 HJ60. It may be the original one, and if not, then still probably quite old.

The original Aisin one has 8 screws, whereas the aftermarket ones seem have 4 screws (for the 2H/12HT that is).
This one may be an Aisin, but I am not sure as there is no writing on it, just a bit of red paint on a small part of it.


As stated in other writeups on the subject, the screws are very tight and difficult to remove. I used the correct philips head, yet the screws still got striped.
So I used a 9mm socket to hammer the screw into the shape of a bolt.

After that, they came out quite easily.


The two halves were seperated and the draining started:



Two hours later, about 40ml had drained:



Two days later, another 10ml bringing the total to 50ml thus far:



After 4 days, it drained to a bit under the 60ml mark, I'd say 56-58ml:



Here's the silicone tubes: Toyota part number 08816-10001, 10,000 cst, 18ml per tube.

Also decided to replace the screws with bolts to make life a bit easier next time round:


Here I'm refilling it again:

Close to 36ml so far, almost 2 tubes.


I do have a question though. How much should I put in?
The obvious answer would be: as much as came out, as stated in similar threads. But what if the original amount was wrong. Previous owner/mechanic may have put too much or even too little in. Is there a sure way to tell when it is sufficiently filled?


(will post the results as soon as I've filled it up and put it back on again)
 
Be vary careful on reassembly to NOT disturb the large O ring or it will leak.
 
Patrol:
I'd already put my third bottle in, before I read your post. :)
But it seems like the right amount, because it's now starting to appear at the edge of the disc, and the 4 holes are full.

Spike:
Yep, I'm being very careful. I didn't even remove it, I just left it there and cleaned the surface.


Any more opinions or advice on the amount would be much appreciated. I'm curious to hear as many opinions as possible before I seal it up.
 
Thanks for the part number. I've been meaning to do mine for a few months :hillbilly:
 
I did mine last summer and the first time I put it back together it leaked. The second time I put it back together I used Permatex Ultra Grey and had no leaks. I also swapped the screws for bolts and made sure to torque them all equally.

FYI, if you don't want to wait 4 days to drain it, you can rinse out the old silicone oil with mineral spirits then rinse the mineral spirits out with alcohol and let it all dry.
 
Update: As others have mentioned in similar threads, and Langsen already pointed out, it's prone to leakage once it has been opened up. Even when you torque everything down equally to the M5 bolt's torque spec.

Somehow I believed mine wouldn't leak. There were little droplets of silicone oil all over the place, and cooling performance was definately down.

Therefore, I will be opening it up once again, adding more silicone oil to make up for lost oil and adding a sealant.

--> Always use a sealant.
 
I was worried about this very problem so I just bit the bullet and bought a new one instead of rebuilding. I went to the Aisin Aftermarket website and got the part number. Think it was around $70.
 
I've done this a few times, now, and the last time I used a thin smear of gray (hi-vibration) RTV on both sealing surfaces, outside the O ring, and put it together and torqued down, then let it sit a couple days for the RTV to cure... That one did not leak.

:meh:
 
$70 dollars for a replacement aisin unit? why rebuild and run the risk of it leaking or not working and having to tear it down again? not trying to be a smart ass, great write up by the way :cheers:
 
$70 dollars for a replacement aisin unit? why rebuild and run the risk of it leaking or not working and having to tear it down again? not trying to be a smart ass, great write up by the way :cheers:

It's such an easy fix though, and only $20 and a couple hours.

That said, if a new fan clutch is only $70 I would just go get a new one and be done with it. For me with the HJ60 a new one was $300+ and 30 days away so I rebuilt it out of necessity.
 
I too am having hard time finding a new Aisin one.
Toyota doesn't stock 2H fan clutches anymore. ($671.00 AUD when they were still in stock)

And aftermarket ones on Ebay range from $100-150 AUD, but of uncertain quality.

If the second attempt fails too, then I'll have to go aftermarket.

BTW: 10 minute test drive -> lost about 10ml of silicone oil, about 20%.
 
Touché. I should have searched first. My bad.

Don't mind Spike, he hadn't taken his meds for the day yet so he can be a bit touchy!! :flipoff2:
 
I took my meds. They don't help. Since my drug of choice is coffee ...

:D

:hillbilly:
 
I will be replacing mine this weekend (hopefully if it gets here in time) and since I believe my current one, the bearing is locked up I am just replacing with a new AISIN FCT-017. Checked it last night after the engine had sufficiently warmed up on the way home and sat in the driveway running while I fed the dogs. Tried the cardboard test and it just shredded it, then I shut the engine down and tried to turn the blade and nothing, with a slight bit more pressure it popped and then then blade spun, but maybe an inch or two before stopping. On the way to my softball game it sounded as though the fan was engaged the whole time. With all this I deduced that the clutch bearing was going out so just decided to order a new one all together. T-stat will be replaced this weekend and if she starts working properly again after that I may just replace with the new one for the hell of it and rebuild the old one to have "on-hand".
 
Thanks a lot for the pictures, cant have enough of them.:cheers:
My friends HJ fan is stuck, I dont dare to try more pressure to make it loose, it cools now and if I break it maybe it does not cool anymore.
So can you please make a picture of the bearing if you take it apart another time? is that one replacable or does it have a part number?

Here is another writeup.
: 4 bottles...
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/1gen-tundra/146009-easy-fix-mechanical-fan-v8-tundra/

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https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/507091-nother-blue-fan-clutch-drain-fill-no-adjustment.html
 
Thanks a lot for the pictures, cant have enough of them.:cheers:
My friends HJ fan is stuck, I dont dare to try more pressure to make it loose, it cools now and if I break it maybe it does not cool anymore.
So can you please make a picture of the bearing if you take it apart another time? is that one replacable or does it have a part number?

Here is another writeup.
: 4 bottles...
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/1gen-tundra/146009-easy-fix-mechanical-fan-v8-tundra/

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https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/507091-nother-blue-fan-clutch-drain-fill-no-adjustment.html

I'm not sure if it can be replaced. While rotating the half with the bearing back when I serviced it, I saw no means of opening it up, no further screws or bolts to undo.
So I'm guessing the bearing cannot be accessed. (but I'm not entirely sure)
 
yeah from what I have been looking at it does not seem like the bearing can be accessed. But I am wondering if shooting some spray lube in there would help things out some. I will do some investigation with the old one once the new one gets here tomorrow.
 

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