Emblem placing..

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Iam getting ready to drill the holes for some new emblems I got for my cruiser. I found this pic and was just checking to see if this looks right in the way of placement of the emblems. Unless anybody knows of a better way i'll probably just eyeball off this pic..

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Thanks

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If it helps, I do believe mine is in stock location...be right back with a snapshot.
 
Well, I have one emblem...sorry. But it appears as though my 4wd symbol is similarily placed.
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Well I got the first drilled and it fit up just fine..

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But on this second one I am I supposed to use some spacers with it or what. How do this thing tighten up?? Also does it seem warped to you?? I didn't want to place it till I knew what size holes to drill and if this thing is supposed to be warped like this. I was thinking that may sticking it in an oven or something to warm it up would allow me to get it back into place. What do yall think


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TIA
 
There is a gasket that goes behind the emblems. On mine the mounting brackets were removed and the emblem was glued to the fender. BTW, I want your old emblems. I threw mine away cuz they were broke...
 
There is a gasket that goes behind the emblems. On mine the mounting brackets were removed and the emblem was glued to the fender. BTW, I want your old emblems. I threw mine away cuz they were broke...

yea, I looked at SOR's diagram and they had some clips behind them to help tighten up. But 3 bucks a piece and they're used :eek: plus a couple nuts.. And I'll probably get charged $20 to ship that ;)


I got one old metal Toyota emblem if interested, it's kind rough though..
 
The pic you have in your first post looks just like mine. Mine is stock. Yes, your 4WD emblem does look a little warped. Good luck!
 
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Good luck w/ the placement... the CCOT ruler should go miles for you.

Where did you pick up your metal emblems if you don't mind me asking???

Thanks
Good luck
Scott
 
Good luck w/ the placement... the CCOT ruler should go miles for you.

Where did you pick up your metal emblems if you don't mind me asking???

Thanks
Good luck
Scott

Got them both off ebay..

Turns out the 4wd emblem is plastic, didn't know that..



Went ahead the drilled the holes for the 4wd emblem, looks like I have mounted it alittle farther to the left than most, o well..

When I mounted the 4wd emblem it seems to have some play in emblem itself, so it should straighten up when I tighten it all up. Just got to get some of those little clips and nuts..
 
I think it's cool you put them on but I don't think the 64 had rear emblems at all.

I dunno when they started putting them on the rear. I think it was probably 65ish when they went away from the corregated top to the large glass top and corner windows. Pimp probably knows the time frame better than I.
 
'64 had emblems. My brass tag '65 (a carried over '64 has new emblems mounted into the original factory holes. If you have to all anal about it find someone with original mounting holes. No, I don't have pictures of the '64 that are postable.

I've noticed some variation in the placement of those emblems, mostly in the spacing from the doorframe edge. It seems that the guys in the factory drilled them one way on Mondays, another way on Fridays or something like that.

Just make it look right if your quarter panels have been replaced. The 'Toyota' on top placed about 1/2" from the door and the 4x4 below with the tip of the '4' pointed at the bottom of the 'Y'.

I wouldn't necessarily think of CCOT as gospel. They've got to leave room to blow their own horn.

My unaltered BJ40 has them factory installed. This is the closest picture I seem to have of it from the necessary angle, and the emblems seem too close to the door to me.

Do it how you like it.
 
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yea, I looked at SOR's diagram and they had some clips behind them to help tighten up. But 3 bucks a piece and they're used :eek: plus a couple nuts.. And I'll probably get charged $20 to ship that ;)


I got one old metal Toyota emblem if interested, it's kind rough though..

You can bend the emblems a little to straighten them but you need to be careful. A SHORT visit to an oven will help if you use low temps and babysit them, taking them out after just a minute or maybe two. They'll destruct quickly at 300 degrees.

I once bent a left side Toyota emblem for placement on the right side of a later model and it looked perfect when done.

There should be rubber gaskets behind both emblems.

If you buy more stuff from Marvin and exceed the minimum purchase he won't slap on the $20. Just a $5 box fee. :)
 
'64 had emblems. My brass tag '65 (a carried over '64 has new emblems mounted into the original factory holes. If you have to all anal about it find someone with original mounting holes. No, I don't have pictures of the '64 that are postable.

All the factory literature i've seen shows no rear emblems. Nor does my 64 parts book show part #'s for rear emblems. They may have started in 65, I don't know.
Check out the factory literature on both root45 and birfield of early cruisers. I don't see any corregated top cruisers with rear emblems. I love to see some literature showing them if you have it.

http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/images/print/64brochure-1.jpg
http://www.root45.com/gallery3/main.php?g2_itemId=1564
http://www.root45.com/gallery3/main.php?g2_itemId=1474
http://www.root45.com/gallery3/main.php?g2_itemId=1405
http://www.root45.com/gallery3/main.php?g2_itemId=1567
http://www.root45.com/gallery3/main.php?g2_itemId=1786


I don't think my 64 had emblems but I'll be adding them like my64fj40 did :)
 
I don't think that the emblems came out until later too. Wesintl's parts book is probably what's right. I won't trust any of the early factory lit. On Morgan's site the lit from 64 still shows the FJ25 16" wheels and the front bumper style that was changed after 1961. I think old rael pictures out of magazine articles are a better judge of what was real than the old factory lit. I do like the rear step on the second link. I picked one up out of a junk yard years ago that is that wide and it was on a 64. That maybe the only year that they had that wide one. The FJ25s had the narrower one that I'm use to seeing. I just thought that was a Pacific Northwest big foot option.

John


So what year was the backup light added? 68 when they started mounting the reflectors to the back of the frame.
 
A midyear change then,as most are. The literature would be prepared ahead of the model year as I'm sure that about every maker does, even today. There would not be a "1964.5 Toyota Landcruiser Pamphlet".

Mine had corrugated top but 15" wheels and for that it may be a '65. I'd assumed the brass tag was a dealer indicator placed in order to sell unsold stock from '64 as '65 models. I think that came from the pimp.
 
Toyota used old pictures from years earlier not just six months before the new model. 65 lit shows a soft top jumping off a hill. That picture was was doctored. That picture was around with the earlier style soft top door openings. It still has the bumper style from before 62. 62 had the same style bumper as the rest of the 40 series. I have a 61 and it still has the factory 15" wheels. Toyota offered 16" split rims and one piece 16" wheels on later models in other countries but not in the sixties and their style 16" wheel was not the same as the 25 rim. That rim was on the 25 & 35 series and maybe the BJs. The 25 series ended in 1960 and the 35 series a couple of years later. In 64 the FJ40 would have had 15" wheels. The 25 wheel has a hole in the side and is almost always show in the literature without hub caps. If you look at the 61 model literature it shows the 25 wheels so I figured I would put them on it if I restored it, then I read the specs 15" wheels not 16" Toyota advertizing budget most have been pretty small in the early years because they used the same pictures for years even thou changes have been made. I guess I'm just saying if doing a restore I would have to have more proof than factory literature for what was right for a certain year.:beer:


John
 
In the interest of adding to this thread and not creating another:

I need a 4wd emblem for the drivers side of my '65 40...the emblem from CCOT says it goes on the passenger side....Is the passenger side emblem the same as what I'd use on the driver side?

Example calling for passenger side:

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for that one yes.. The toyota one is curved and needs to be specified whether it's going on the left or right.
 

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