Dissent Off-road 2022 LC100 Product News
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Curious what issues you had with your front bumper install.
Please bring back the step sliders. @kem Would there be interest in a group buy? Seems there's plenty of interest and nothing like it on the market today.
Formerjeeper
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I'm on email list for aluminum skidplates and would buy them even at higher price or if need to wait for group buy. My backup plan would be Slee but I like your design better.
Please don't discontinue the skids. I've been saving my pennies to buy a set after buying the front bumper. I want to fill that gap between my bumper and the lower radiator support. I'll pay the 20% markup
Any idea when we’ll be able to order the full bull bar for LC100? Putting in my order for ultra hc front bumper soon.
Another vote for the skids.
Can someone in the fabrication and metal industry explain why it would make sense to discontinue any of these parts? What’s the reasoning? You have the designs made and files saved, machinery to cut and bend the metal, and customers willing to buy the product. I don’t get it.
Formerjeeper
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Not in metal industry and can't answer, but if certain parts are more hassle than worth for Dissent, wondering if they could sell the design to another quality LC accessories shop that might be willing to make them on a more custom/one-off basis, even if more expensive? That way people who really want the item could still source it even if at a premium and not clogging up Dissent's production schedule?
It might just be a combination of time required for certain items, and tooling necessary for the fabrication. Plus the fact that you can probably sell 10 Tacoma bumpers before getting rid of 10 100 series bumpers.
Purely speculation and I’m curious to know also.
I've had a set of vintage wheels in CA to be 3-piece converted for nearly a year. Metal products are either unobtanium or exorbitantly priced. For the wheels, evidently there's like 1 manufacturer that supplies all the distributors and builders.
Couple in the custom labor aspect of products like Dissent's, and it makes sense they'd need/want to thin the product line, eliminate redundancy in fabrication, consolidate the amount of labor required across the full product line, standardize components between models, etc.
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mdcoa
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Another vote for resurrecting the skids--the closest thing out there isn't really that close in terms of build and still costs $1k+ shipped.
Are we looking at a 20% price hike on ~$1300ish (last price I was quoted by Benc, if I recall correctly--should've ordered then!!!!), so something around $1560 plus shipping? Ouch, but probably still worth it for many of us. Especially with new cats costing ~$4k!
Are we looking at a 20% price hike on ~$1300ish (last price I was quoted by Benc, if I recall correctly--should've ordered then!!!!), so something around $1560 plus shipping? Ouch, but probably still worth it for many of us. Especially with new cats costing ~$4k!
GTV
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I'm interested in these even having no idea what they look like (can't find a single pic online... can anyone help?). But knowing the attention to detail that Dissent has I can imagine that they are/were very well thought out. Aluminium would suit my needs well.
GTV
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benc
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That is correct
benc
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It is certainly something that never really made sense to us until recently.
There really isn’t one answer unfortunately as there are many factors. One of them being the only way we can get on top of lead times is to eliminate some product for the time being, skids, racks and sliders are not only the least profitable but the most material hungry items, with materials at a record high and hit and miss availability those items are the first to go. It is certainly tough but unfortunately necessary for the time being. This is by no means us getting out of the landcruiser market! We love the landcruiser as well as the community and as long as you guys support us we will continue to support the you! This also isn’t due to the lack of orders for 100 series products but actually the opposite. The lc100 is still our best selling platform and we are certainly grateful for that! We have upped our batch sizes from 5-10 to 20-30 and typically running them back to back as we try and get caught up. We have gone from selling maybe 100 lc100 bumpers a year to now doing that much in a month which is great but does require some restructuring on the manufacturing side. As Filip said finding welders and fabricators that are up to our standards has proven extremely difficult! We have taken huge steps to automate the process where possible. These steps should allow us to get on top of lead times by the end of this year if all goes as planned.
These last couple years have been tough! while we have seen record sales the cost of manufacturing has our profits way down
we have raised prices but no where near where they need to be to offset our costs.
Typically these prices come down much sooner but the way things are looking i don’t believe that to be the case. Our only option is to restructure the process and make it as efficient as possible.
We are extremely grateful to the support we have received from this community and have no plans of going anywhere anytime soon. Hopefully this will help shed some light on some of the decisions we have had to make and our plans as we navigate the new normal for manufacturing!
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I appreciate the support Dissent has shown for this community, and I would be willing to pay a premium if I had to do it all over again.
I do ask that y’all continue to make the skids available. My aluminum set has taken a beating, but I do worry that at some point they will be beyond useable and I’ll need to replace a piece or the whole set. My favorite part of the dissent armor is that the front bumper and skids integrate so nicely, it would be a shame to have to try and make any other brand of skid do the job.
I do ask that y’all continue to make the skids available. My aluminum set has taken a beating, but I do worry that at some point they will be beyond useable and I’ll need to replace a piece or the whole set. My favorite part of the dissent armor is that the front bumper and skids integrate so nicely, it would be a shame to have to try and make any other brand of skid do the job.
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