Cary and ID - I definitely will agree with you that these projectors are not as high quality as OEM projectors. Later this week, if time permits, I will compare the OEM projectors on our E350 which IIRC are Bosch and the OEM projectors on the new Camry's on my exact garage door so we can examine these more closely. The elongated triangle you're speaking of is definitely caused by the brush guard and not the lamp. When I was making reflections with my hands the other night, I clearly put my fingers where those dark spots are and I touched the guards. There is no doubt in my mind that if these lamps were aimed evenly, you would see an exact reflection of the brush guard bars. I will agree about the vertical patterns though. I think the fact that these lamps are brighter than stock over compensates this defect. The one thing I noticed taking pics of the beams with my phone camera was that it vividly shows the beams as if Scotty was trying to beam me up into the Enterprise. To the naked eye, that beam is not nearly as focused as the pic reveals but you can see it. Once again, it's due to the inferior projector pattern. I took out the Canon last night but was too sleepy to post them but here they are now. You can still see the beam but in those phone pics, they appear overly exaggerated. But first, I went to Hoser's thread on HID retrofit and thanks for pointing that out, Cary. I never bother going into the 100's forum. Very interesting thread, especially since I thought about retrofitting these lamps later on but when I went out to look at mine afterwards, it does not allow you to remove the projector lamps, only the high beams.

HID's will pretty much blow any lighting out of the water so I definitely wouldn't want to compare these lamps to those.
Here is a pic of Hoser's projectors before the retro.
This might not be a good pic since it could be aided by the streetlamps but the dead area I wanted to go to was closed off for some reason.
So I just pointed the lamps into an open field.
Now on the drive back home.
This is a bad one cause I was still moving a bit when I quickly decided to take a pic. I just wanted to show how bright these lights are.
I'm tempted to break my back and remove the brush guard to prove my theory that the elongated triangle is indeed being caused by it and because I'd like to see how much better the view will be with these lamps w/o any obstruction and as in the finger pics showed, these lamps are easily distorted with obstruction but I doubt anybody will be doing any driving with someone's hand in the way.lol
The positives on these lamps is that for an inexpensive alternative, you can get a stylish modern look and brighter lighting than stock.
The negatives is your getting what you pay for, an inferior projector lamp.
I will report in the future whether I still have these lamps or put them back on ebay or burned them out back!lol When I connect the LED's to the turn signals(blinking LED's look cool!), I will be sealing them for good measure. I really feel comfortable driving with these lamps and my only concern will be whether the plastic housing over the lenses will fade over time but as past OEM's have shown, they most likely will. Just driving thru my work's parking lot, I see a bunch of faded OEM plastic lenses. I was getting the paper this morning and started talking to my neighbor and noticed the lense has badly faded on her RX300 but the funny thing is, only the driver side is faded. Don't know if she spilled somthing on it or what. As long as the plastic does not fade, these lamps will stay on my rig, plus I can't go back anyhow since I already sold my OEM's!
