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I'm hearing $10k +/-

Regardless, it is a diesel option from a well known/respected company. I'm absolutely tempted if it's sub 10k. Anyone have intel on the reveal???
 
This motor has been in the foton tunland for a few years the early ones were lemons. But people buy them because they are cheap only $22999 drive away for a 4wd ute with the 2.8 Cummins in it
 
We just got back from Belize and the majority of smaller buses for 10 or so people were the 1hz powered HiAces. However, there were also quite a few similarly sized Foton vans with the 2.8's and a manual 5 speed. My God... they rip. I asked one of the drivers how they do on fuel, as he whipped around an scarily tight turn at 140kmh. He said they're amazing. No numerical evidence but I assume that's a good thing. Ha ha. Also, seat of the pants says that 2.8 would move an 80 just fine. It was a fast ride in a big vehicle.
 
1HZ's in Hiaces? They are normally 3L and the newer ones have a 2KD FTV or maybe the even newer 2G***?
I don't know if the older ones had the 1KZ T.
 
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1HZ's in Hiaces? They are normally 3L and the newer ones have a 2KD FTV or maybe the even newer 2G***?
I don't know if the older ones had the 1KZ T.
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That is interesting. It would be odd for Toyota to put an I-6 into a light-duty truck.

I've never seen a specification of one with a 1HZ. Indeed an odd phenomena if true.
 
1hz coaster
 
After poking around their website it looks like the V8 is already available for motorhomes... It might be a bit pricey, however.
 
Looking at the Cummins Repower program and it looks like a great idea. The 2.8 might be on the small side for a fully outfitted 80 depending on expectations of acceleration.

Looking ahead I think the next engine Cummins will add to the Repower program will be the ISF 3.8. Both the ISF 2.8 and ISF 3.8 are manufactured at the Beijing Foton plant and both meet the same Euro 3 and Euro 4 emissions standards. Being shorter in length and height than a 1FZFE, while providing 170hp @ 2600 RPM and 443 LB-FT of torque at 1,300 RPM that would be great performance in a 6k pound vehicle. The ISF 3.8 weighs only about 30 lbs more than 1FZFE......that would be a real winner in my book.

Anyway, just thinking out loud.
 
So much for 1st quarter 2017---Cummins just forwarded a delay on this now. Claims of needing to still do "testing" etc. Claiming the next announcement will be Mid April/ Easter. So even if they announce pricing and a future delivery date, they are shooting to miss a large segment of people interested in doing this swap pre-summer.

I imagine the " testing" is all b.s. since this engine has been running in the Fotons for years.......and they are simply waiting for the Trump/ Import duty clarity. I cant imagine they would be happy to price it at $10k and then 6mo. later find out that Trump will be enforcing a re-pricing to $12k which will - piss customers off....and price many out of the market.

If Cummins has done their market research- they will want it priced spot on where they know their potential customer base will reach their expected/projected sales goals. So it really behooves them to wait for import duty clarity. At this rate- the option may not materialize until fall or 2018 given Washington D.C. disfunctionality. :(
 
Funny how two people read the same email and get completely different messages...

I interpret their message as putting most of the delay due to CARB and emissions certs. I've spent my career in automotive powertrain and can tell you it's very much not a surprise they are struggling to get clarity on the cert level and approvals. They've stated that they are going for Tier 1 approval and up to 1999 vehicles, that's a great target and will be a benefit to the market if they can get it approved. However the CARB folks are very concerned about NOx levels and I'm sure it's getting some discussion when it comes to approving any sort of engine at an older level with much higher NOx values than current technology. Again, not really a surprise to me that it's taking a long time.

You may have a point about the import duties, but we'll never know on that front. Let's keep hoping it arrives soon, I've got a couple FJ60's that are itching for a modern diesel...
 
The 2.8 has been around for years....in 2009 it was euro4 and tier4 complaint in isf versions. So Carb is of no issue.

I hope they offer a tier1 barebones ecu flash/ no egr/ no def version for anyone doing older pre-smog swaps........and a tier4 for modern swaps as its simply an ecu flash and a few emisssions add-ons for 50 state complaince. Same engine....two tier pricing...and applicable to the entire market.1960s-2020 or whenever tier4 ends. (if they were smart) They already have all these versions floating around from ag. repowers/ to euro car / to asia foton versions.......at this point its simply a marketing and tax duty /pricing/ political decision unfortunately.
 
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crickets..... the more time goes on- the more im reading about 2.8 and 3.8 issues worldwide. seems that russians are viewing this engine as disposible vs serviceable. too bad for Cummins as i think they rightly identified a market "need" for a small , durable, modern diesel in the U.S. And it seems they got the small and modern portions right.....maybe just not the durable piece of that puzzle.
 
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crickets..... the more time goes on- the more im reading about 2.8 and 3.8 issues worldwide. seems that russians are viewing this engine as disposible vs serviceable. too bad for Cummins as i think they rightly identified a market "need" for a small , durable, modern diesel in the U.S. And it seems they got the small and modern portions right.....maybe just not the durable piece of that puzzle.
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Do you have any links to the Russian disposable reviews/feedback that you read online?

btw, one of my buddies was selected as 1 of the 16 initial test installs.

This article seemed to be very favorable in regards to longevity and serviceability.

The ISF engine has undergone extensive durability and reliability tests. It has undergone more than 50,000 hours of validation testing as well as an additional 1.6 million kilometers of on-road testing. Driven through various terrains and environments, the 2.8 ISF must operate without any power loss below 2,000 rpm and remain smooth until 5,200 rpm. It must also start and operate in climates reaching -40 degrees Celsius.

The design of the engine itself leads to very simple maintenance. For instance, it uses 40 percent less parts thanks to a modular engine design. It can also go up to 20,000 kilometers between oil changes—one of the longest in the segment. Cummins has done this through the use of a special filter media in the ISF’s oil filter and a water/oil separator. And even if you do need to bring it in for servicing, it’s quite easy because of its ‘single side servicing’. This means all the necessary filters and consumable components are located on one side of the engine bay for easier access.

Finally, Cummins designed the ISF engine to be Euro IV during the development phase, something they were able to achieve during the production run. However, it’s also been certified to Euro V levels recently.

The American diesel expert’s global presence means the ISF is produced around the world. In fact, even the North American-assembled 2.8 ISF engines are made using engine blocks machined from Cummins’s Chinese plant. It’s then shipped to Columbus, Indiana where it’s assembled with a blend of both automated and team assembly processes. In addition, they have built-in preventive fail safe techniques and strict environmental controls to assure consistently high quality.

What Makes the Cummins 2.8 ISF Engine So Special? | CarGuide.PH - Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Car Features, Car Buyer's Guide and Car Prices.
 
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