Cruiser Lean: "You've been doing it all wrong. Yes you"
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Can you post a picture of the KDSS valve and where the hex key goes? I have lean on the DS bad (no lift)
So to level just the rear did you open up both bolts or just the rear one?
Search for a thread that says "KDSS...you're welcome" something along those lines. I posted a PDF of instructions on this very subject. I think you'll find it helpful
They were drafted by old man emu
Took mine to dealer for front strut spacers and they had a hard time getting it level. After keeping it for extra day i got it back and difference in the rear is 30mm and 23mm in the front... all is higher on the right.
When you do spacers any chace of getting air in?
When you do spacers any chace of getting air in?
It was level before that so the way i tbink it should be level afterwards.. unless there was a problem. Seems like bolts did not fix it
Take it back to the dealer and ask the manager to make it right. That's now their problem and not yours.
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/repair2/html/contents/rm0000038ua001x.html
By no means an expert, I got a 2015 after my 2013 was totaled and after two weeks I noticed this thing is just off. It looks funny and isn't driving as well as the other. Read up on it and went and measured. Left front low by 24mm. NOOOOO!
The dealer agreed and ordered everything they would need to complete all the steps in the TSB (link at top.)
It took them two days as the service bulletin steps are pretty involved and a ton of sweat. Picked it up and it still has 14mm lean, within spec.
Three days later, I can't even measure a difference. The combination of repressurization and time was the fix. The dealer speculates there were several small air pockets in the KDSS. KDSS is genius and a bit spooky. The techs that worked on mine had no idea how it works, but the TSB is very specific on how to cure lean. I spoke with two of the pros at Slee, and they said I was welcome to bring it in but they would simply execute the TSB steps and then charge me.
I wouldn't be comfortable with spacers considering that KDSS relies on the symmetry of many moving parts to be effective. In particular I woul be concerned about spacers creating an artifact where the entire engineered system compensates for the spacers; creating performance uncertainty (safe handling at speed?). It might be a better choice to keep pushing for a root cause solution.
Good luck!
By no means an expert, I got a 2015 after my 2013 was totaled and after two weeks I noticed this thing is just off. It looks funny and isn't driving as well as the other. Read up on it and went and measured. Left front low by 24mm. NOOOOO!
The dealer agreed and ordered everything they would need to complete all the steps in the TSB (link at top.)
It took them two days as the service bulletin steps are pretty involved and a ton of sweat. Picked it up and it still has 14mm lean, within spec.
Three days later, I can't even measure a difference. The combination of repressurization and time was the fix. The dealer speculates there were several small air pockets in the KDSS. KDSS is genius and a bit spooky. The techs that worked on mine had no idea how it works, but the TSB is very specific on how to cure lean. I spoke with two of the pros at Slee, and they said I was welcome to bring it in but they would simply execute the TSB steps and then charge me.
I wouldn't be comfortable with spacers considering that KDSS relies on the symmetry of many moving parts to be effective. In particular I woul be concerned about spacers creating an artifact where the entire engineered system compensates for the spacers; creating performance uncertainty (safe handling at speed?). It might be a better choice to keep pushing for a root cause solution.
Good luck!
You mean the 3/8 spacers that go on top of the strut mount?
I used this one 43136-60020
FWIW - I installed the 3/8's spacers on top of the strut mount and had no issues with leveling once finished. I did have to notch out some material from the spacer. The spacer was competing for space with the external resi hose fitting coming off the top of my Icon coil overs.
take this into the dealer with you and let them know, you know, they now know how to do it - you dig
The front of mine is about an inch off. The front is harder to lift than the rear. Putting the jack under the control arm raises the whole vehicle so the wheel dots not actually compress the spring at all. Anyone else deal with this?
I had similar problem. Ended up using 3 points to lift running around measuring with tape. 2 in the rear under the axle and one up front. Front one was lifting up the frame - uncompressing the shock so put it on the lower side...
Once i had it all level screws were tightened but truck was not leveled on the ground... had too flush all the air from the system that aparently got in on front spacer instal.. now its all level
